Why does Riot LIE about the 0.006% of players that get perma'd?

slvr birb·2/23/2020, 4:31:31 PM·1 votes·9,794 views

Anybody from Riot actually got some statistics for me?

98 Comments

TrulyBland2/23/2020, 4:36:23 PM28 votes

I don't see you providing any statistics, either. Does that mean you are lying, too?

Besides, what do you even mean with statistics? "0.006% of players get permabanned" is a statistic, and you choose not to believe it. Why would you believe the other statistics they share with you?

TheBrothersGrymm2/23/2020, 4:32:47 PM13 votes

Why does Riot claim bot accounts as real players is the real question......

Jamaree2/23/2020, 4:45:13 PM13 votes

Truly kind of nailed it on the head, what statistic would you believe?

MentalMidgetz2/23/2020, 10:02:04 PM6 votes

Oh look another one of these threads, so basically the OP cant control himself online and is toxic and has been permabanned? im guessing for his/her 30th time

WTBeGirl100EUhr2/23/2020, 7:03:13 PM5 votes

0.006% of accounts got permanently banned as of when that statistic was created. It has not been reevaluated since then. Given how that statistic will include inactive accounts, accounts banned for not-toxicity (iirc), and will include smurfs (I have 5 accounts and none have received any kind of punishment) I don't think the statistic is so unreasonable... provided you look at it with those caveats.

Vampyre6662/23/2020, 7:25:37 PM5 votes

How about we just do simple math?

80 million players in a given month.

80,000,000 x .00006 = 4,800 players. Doesnt add up. I come here for years since the new ban system and have probably seen more people than that post about it.

I mean, even imaqtpie got a chat restriction.

Meanwhile you got players like nightblue and tyler 1 who are still super toxic. But just because they got connections they can keep playing. But again, imaqtpie got a chat restriction months back.

The ban system is some sort of Nazi Germany censorship that I would compare to facebook. Basically Riot is so greedy and so rich that they dont want to spend the extra money to open centers where people read through reports all day and hand out punishments. Instead they swear up and down this system is foul proof and then when someone comes on here being banned for saying GG EZ. In comes a Rioter to try and make sure everyone still believes the system is good. I remember when the tribunal was around. Sometimes you would get many many chat restrictions before they actually banned you. At some point my buddy got a 100 game chat restriction before they banned him.

This all comes down to money and how much they can save just supposedly having and AI instant penalization system that makes 0 errors. I wonder what Elon Musk would think if he seen what was going on with this game.

Just my 2 cents.

Edit: Also it's very easy to get tilted in the system they have set up for match making and they have even been quoted as saying "making it harder" to climb because of so many smurfs.

But how did we get smurfs? Well most smurfs come from getting banned. Or they buy accounts. Basically riot put a band aid on another band aid without stitching up the actually cut.

Pika Fox2/23/2020, 9:46:09 PM5 votes

An article from a few months ago said LoL had a monthly active player base of ~80,000,000 players. Multiply that by .006, and you get just shy of 500k. That sounds about right (not including bot accounts).

Why dont you believe the statistic?

Get Ogre Here2/23/2020, 9:34:47 PM4 votes

I presume that it's so people who get perma'd say to themselves "shit.. I'm so bad that I'm grouped with such a small group of players" or something, so that when they inevitably make a new account, they'll be more careful. I'm not saying it's justified, because it's not, but that's probably why they do it.

Imperial Pandaa2/23/2020, 6:02:07 PM4 votes

Depends on the language, interpretation, and what is actually included.

There is a difference between players and accounts. We have a digital fingerprint but I'm not sure how well/accurate the system is for separating that.

You have to also account for abandoned accounts since they aren't actually banned, just dormant.

Finally, there is a difference between permanent and suspended. Some accounts aren't banned but locked for security reasons. Some of these get corrected but I'd wager some don't.