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The Overall Community of League of Legends is Garbage

Heydonttalktome··6 votes·1,387 views

I've been playing since season 1 and every year a higher and higher percent of players think they are entitled to report and ban anyone for any reason, they call you out in chat saying rude things that are completely unrelated to the game, and at times when you do say something about a play even if you just mean to dish out strategy to your team they start up again with the same "you're bad" "reported" "someones salty" i didnt ask for this, ive been playing league since it was in beta and i just don't appreciate the new audience. All of the generations since season 3 have been pretentious and downright ugly how they act, how they play (which def should be the most important part but it isnt since the chat tends to win more games than the plays now) and the overall way of thinking is so outlandish its disgusting, im at risk of losing my account for dumb things ive said in the past but what i say is always in defensive stature i never pick people out and decide hey this is the guy im going to say mean things to, and usually if i insult someone its classic gamer style like "quit your bitchin and pick up them sticks" theres no reason that i should be infested with people who climb ladder on bans and duo's with far better players than them, refuse to actually act as a team ever,

which is another thing, so many teamfights are lost because a player simply isnt where they need to be, i dont even talk about it unless im sure the player wont get mad for no reason because im tired of loosing over peoples feelings

its a game, youre not fighting for your rights your trying to blow up the nexus, and even riots community leaders act as implementers in the language used by new players such as salty and toxic, these people reward players for reporting others by keeping players with an attitude that differs from theirs out of the cycle, the highest up players dont have to deal with the changes in the community because they dont have teams that wish ill upon them

now allot of players might think, oh ill just mute them and that will be that, as if my friend , your team will fall apart without communication but communicating with people who act like they are better than you is a punishment to real players. real newbs cant even enjoy this game because of smurfs that group new accounts and ruin the leveling process for everyone.

i dont see riot trying any new techniques with leavebuster or chat or even making the game more team influenced. because none of that matters to them, money is more important to them than the enjoyment of their entire population of players since the more experienced players are the ones that buy skins and such.

i wouldnt mind if someone tried to break the meta or feed horrendously in my ranked games anymore, as long as the players weren't complete assholes.

i seriously want to quit league over this and i have for about 3-4 years now, i never mind a loss unless the loss is cause by people who dont see me as their equal IRL

i will continue to play until i get banned for saying something like "wait dont go in yet" "or dude you can't keep dying" or "i'd totally bang your mom"

Teemo love you guys, i mean the real players. but the ones who say "salty , toxic" go get run over by a bus, or grow up get a job, when i come home to play this game i dont want people to cry over the score , im winning , youre losing no need to report me if i havent threatend you or said some racist shit (WHICH I FUCKING DON'T)

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Fritz Tha Cat3 votes

I didn't vote because all of those things are offensive, besides the group report. If the majority reports you, its usually for a good reason, and not very common.

I entirely agree with mostly everything you have said, and something needs to be done about it.

Heydonttalktome2 votes

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I didn't vote because all of those things are offensive, besides the group report. If the majority reports you, its usually for a good reason, and not very common.

I entirely agree with mostly everything you have said, and something needs to be done about it.

the reason why i made the poll like that is , we all know all of these things are bad. the point of the poll is to show which one (you) find most disturbing, riot understands data polls and usually acts on them very quickly

Heydonttalktome2 votes

listen guys, i'm not trying to defend the reason i got suspended here, i know the words i said. im just saying, that attitude of "its not me so i dont care" is usually the same people that dart out at me and mame my behavior when im playing minding my own buisness,

ive been chat restricted on my new account just now before posting this fourm because the team agreed that im "unskilled" so i get harrassment banned and cant chat much for the next game,

in that game i had a supp tryndamere against a normal botlane, he got me cornered twitce which led to double kills and then master yi of all people tells me im reported. so your instances of saying it doesnt happen is bogus, you just dont see them cause you're higher ELO,

you cant deny the overall community isn't just "toxic" as they like to say but they are cancerous. its litterally terrorizing thinking i can get banned for saying fk instead of fuck when i mess up, i know i messed up thats why im saying fuck,. but that gives leayway to get autobanned.

im tiptoeing through the tulips everytime i play this game

CS:GO is a nicer community, even if they say hateful things they still respect you on the inside

players here hate everything and want to win if they dont its an issue to everyone,.

im a very good player, my kda gold and turret AND assists are above sub-par,. i give my team my full respect and i get shit on by people who are "edgy" calling me salty for coaching, i dont say shit like YOU NEED TO DO THIS .. i say, lets go in together , or build this item against them it will counter said champ

this goes on with everything in the game

Jubbinaut1 votes

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ive been chat restricted on my new account just now before posting this fourm because the team agreed that im "unskilled" so i get harrassment banned and cant chat much for the next game,

There are two things of note, here:

Firstly, multiple reports in a game are meaningless - the system builds cases based on the number of reported games, which means that the number of reports per game isn't a factor.

Secondly, reports can only flag your account for review. Nothing more, and nothing less. So if you're keeping your nose clean, their reports can't hurt you. In fact, reporting you falsely can cause their future reports to be worth less (so the system pays less attention to them), and in extreme cases can lead to bans.

you cant deny the overall community isn't just "toxic" as they like to say but they are cancerous. its litterally terrorizing thinking i can get banned for saying fk instead of fuck when i mess up, i know i messed up thats why im saying fuck,. but that gives leayway to get autobanned.

As a general rule, profanity isn't punishable. Which is to say that it's treated as what it is - a modifier. It enhances the tone of the surrounding statement - so a positive statement becomes a very positive statement, and a negative statement becomes a very negative statement. So while a profanity-laced statement might be punishable, it's not because of the profanity itself.

Heydonttalktome1 votes

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There are two things of note, here:

Firstly, multiple reports in a game are meaningless - the system builds cases based on the number of reported games, which means that the number of reports per game isn't a factor.

Secondly, reports can only flag your account for review. Nothing more, and nothing less. So if you're keeping your nose clean, their reports can't hurt you. In fact, reporting you falsely can cause their future reports to be worth less (so the system pays less attention to them), and in extreme cases can lead to bans.

As a general rule, profanity isn't punishable. Which is to say that it's treated as what it is - a modifier. It enhances the tone of the surrounding statement - so a positive statement becomes a very positive statement, and a negative statement becomes a very negative statement. So while a profanity-laced statement might be punishable, it's not because of the profanity itself.

well then if im not harassing the tribunal is harrassing me? that makes even less sense. because i know i don't deserve a report at level 7 summoner level

Jubbinaut2 votes

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well then if im not harassing the tribunal is harrassing me? that makes even less sense. because i know i don't deserve a report at level 7 summoner level

I don't know that Summoner level has anything to do with whether or not a player deserves a punishment - much less a report. It's both more likely and more common for there to be something in your behavior that you may think is perfectly acceptable, but is heavily frowned on by the community.

If you have your Reform Card, I'd be glad to look over it and share where you may have run afoul of the system.

Heydonttalktome1 votes

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I don't know that Summoner level has anything to do with whether or not a player deserves a punishment - much less a report. It's both more likely and more common for there to be something in your behavior that you may think is perfectly acceptable, but is heavily frowned on by the community.

If you have your Reform Card, I'd be glad to look over it and share where you may have run afoul of the system.

what is a reform card

Jubbinaut2 votes

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what is a reform card

The Reform Card is a chat log of the games that led to your punishment. It should show up whenever you log into the client. Additionally, a smaller version (consisting only of one game) should have been sent to the email address associated with your account. It's not uncommon for those emails to be picked up by spam filters, so don't forget to check your junk folder.

In response to your other comment:

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also lifting my suspension isnt going to fix the community.

I'm honestly not sure the community needs fixing - at least not in the sense that you indicate.

I'm not trying to devalue your experiences or anything, but I simply don't share them - and neither do most of the people I know. Honestly, I run into maybe one toxic player every 5-10 games, and most of those are pretty borderline.

Some of that may be what I play (I tend to stick to ARAMs because they're what I enjoy). Some of it may be my own confirmation bias (it affects everyone). Some of it may be due to how I approach the game (I tend to be self-deprecating, which tends to fend off genuine nastiness towards me).

Of course, my experiences aren't the be-all, end-all either. They're just one more data point in a series of data points. The real situation is almost certainly somewhere between the two extremes we represent. The only people who have that information are Rioters - and while they're certainly acting to address the issue, they don't seem to think that it's all that out-of-hand.

Recognizing and accepting that requires a little bit of trust in Riot as a company. My hope is that helping to lift your suspension or helping you understand the validity of it may engender some of that trust.

TheBadness3 votes

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The Reform Card is a chat log of the games that led to your punishment. It should show up whenever you log into the client. Additionally, a smaller version (consisting only of one game) should have been sent to the email address associated with your account. It's not uncommon for those emails to be picked up by spam filters, so don't forget to check your junk folder.

In response to your other comment:

I'm honestly not sure the community needs fixing - at least not in the sense that you indicate.

I'm not trying to devalue your experiences or anything, but I simply don't share them - and neither do most of the people I know. Honestly, I run into maybe one toxic player every 5-10 games, and most of those are pretty borderline.

Some of that may be what I play (I tend to stick to ARAMs because they're what I enjoy). Some of it may be my own confirmation bias (it affects everyone). Some of it may be due to how I approach the game (I tend to be self-deprecating, which tends to fend off genuine nastiness towards me).

Of course, my experiences aren't the be-all, end-all either. They're just one more data point in a series of data points. The real situation is almost certainly somewhere between the two extremes we represent. The only people who have that information are Rioters - and while they're certainly acting to address the issue, they don't seem to think that it's all that out-of-hand.

Recognizing and accepting that requires a little bit of trust in Riot as a company. My hope is that helping to lift your suspension or helping you understand the validity of it may engender some of that trust.

oh look, it's libtard going around defending riot again.

You saying that the community doesn't need fixing is fucking laughable. Trolls run rampant ruining peoples experiences by intentional feeding and griefing every single fucking day and Riot expects their players to keep quiet about it or else get punished or banned.

Heydonttalktome1 votes

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oh look, it's libtard going around defending riot again.

You saying that the community doesn't need fixing is fucking laughable. Trolls run rampant ruining peoples experiences by intentional feeding and griefing every single fucking day and Riot expects their players to keep quiet about it or else get punished or banned.

i agree wholeheartedly, this guy has like 7000 posts in the fourms, being an active memeber of the community is one thing but following the tribunal so much that you dont have a real opinion on it all is another thing entirely

i'm just saying there was a time when riot would actually read people complaints and work on them, i haven't seen that for a very long time now just stronger punishments and more automated systems.

the admins that do do anything are people like this guy quoted previously who refuses to act like he even sees half the stuff you're guaranteed to encounter every single match.

TheBadness1 votes

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i agree wholeheartedly, this guy has like 7000 posts in the fourms, being an active memeber of the community is one thing but following the tribunal so much that you dont have a real opinion on it all is another thing entirely

i'm just saying there was a time when riot would actually read people complaints and work on them, i haven't seen that for a very long time now just stronger punishments and more automated systems.

the admins that do do anything are people like this guy quoted previously who refuses to act like he even sees half the stuff you're guaranteed to encounter every single match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0ub9SAEks8

What a fucking joke

Heydonttalktome1 votes

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I don't know that Summoner level has anything to do with whether or not a player deserves a punishment - much less a report. It's both more likely and more common for there to be something in your behavior that you may think is perfectly acceptable, but is heavily frowned on by the community.

If you have your Reform Card, I'd be glad to look over it and share where you may have run afoul of the system.

also lifting my suspension isnt going to fix the community.

MymMbzKIgC1 votes

no, there is no respect on cs go. they are 10 times more toxic than lol but that's fine because there are no crybabies on cs. it is almost impossible to troll them, i know i've tried. that's what i like about it.

StigtriX2 votes

The only way to improve the community is by starting with oneself. Try to be positive in LoL matches and strive to be constructive rather than aggressive, even when people are rude.

MymMbzKIgC2 votes

we are like minded so i'll give you a serious discussion. first of all, the people who even goes on this board are those who got punished and those who wish to savor the punishment of others. so the responses will be biased. having said that, i totally agree that the entire community is full of crybabies. i almost never see anyone get reported for griefing and game ruining behavior. it feels like i'm in the fucking twilight zone when i play. all they ever care about is if someone is being mean to them. that's it. they have a mute button and chat filter but they don't use it. instead they prefer to cry about it. i'm not going to apologize for being gifted with an ability to verbally joust anyone. i won't let anyone shit on me.

TheBadness1 votes

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we are like minded so i'll give you a serious discussion. first of all, the people who even goes on this board are those who got punished and those who wish to savor the punishment of others. so the responses will be biased. having said that, i totally agree that the entire community is full of crybabies. i almost never see anyone get reported for griefing and game ruining behavior. it feels like i'm in the fucking twilight zone when i play. all they ever care about is if someone is being mean to them. that's it. they have a mute button and chat filter but they don't use it. instead they prefer to cry about it. i'm not going to apologize for being gifted with an ability to verbally joust anyone. i won't let anyone shit on me.

there's a simple reason for that. They're gaming the report system to screw others over. They don't play LoL to win. They play it to make other people's experience miserable. They take joy in the control that it gives them over others knowing that the person who is griefed can't do a damn thing about it.

My advice to all of you who are victims of this, is stop playing this fucking shit of a game.

I quit the game a while ago and only come on these boards to see if anything has changed and to make players aware of how corrupt Riot is as a company. I've come to find that not only things have not changed, but is continually getting WORSE.

Riot is no longer a gaming company, but a social manipulation research and development tool to control people.

LaoBushido1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Slumber Jack,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=VA10iHWH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-02-27T01:02:23.295+0000)

I'm not aware of any case ever where a player was legitimately penalized for erroneous reports. Sure, a warning might pop up on an account with good standing if it notices you received a report when normally you don't, but a Behavior Alert isn't indicative of any impending punishment.

If you can point out a case to me where false reports resulted in an actual punishment I'd be happy to look into it, but you needn't worry about a few erroneous reports resulting in any sort of punishment.

on your first part

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