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Perm-Banned.

Mazkhan··2 votes·854 views

So i guess my time on League of Legends is done, after only being banned twice in my life time on this game, the second ban being a perm-ban because of some toxic trolls on my team. Long story short, team mate Katarina was having a bad game. I get that, we all do. But rather than playing safe they decide to roam and feed other lanes rather than farm CS to become valuable to the team, only time i actually swore at this player was when they came to our bot lane (I was support) and literally jumped under tower on the Twitch and Janna who were both at 80% HP and tried to ulti them. After dying (In the dumbest way possible) I simply said "Don't come to our f-king lane anymore." Ashe even agreed and asked that Katarina stay mid and farmed. Meanwhile enemy Ryze was all over the map hyper carrying because of the free kill farmed from Kat trying to tower dive. Never thought i would see the day you get perm-banned for "swearing" over intentionally feeding/rage quitters and trolls, but i guess that's all league is now. #1 most toxic gaming community where trolls run the game.

18 Comments

Dynikus5 votes

most toxic gaming community where trolls run the game.

There's a level of irony when you get banned for being toxic, then complain about how toxic the community is. Post your chat logs, because I have a feeling there was a little more than just that.

LostFr0st3 votes

Post the chat logs if you would like full context.

Also, you can only be banned "twice" if there's no change in behaviour:

PUNISHMENTS GENERALLY FOLLOW A BASIC ESCALATION PATH: First Offense: 10 Game Chat Restriction Second Offense: 25 Game Chat Restriction Third Offense: Two Week Suspension Fourth Offense: Permanent Suspension However, it is possible to skip to a Two Week or Permanent suspension based on the severity of the behavior in the game. Excessive negative behavior can result in a Two-Week or Permanent suspension at any time without having a chat restriction on the account. https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ-

GoleBilon2 votes

i can bet you 10$ its not only thing in your chat logs i dare you to post them :)

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

By itself, swearing is not prohibited in League of Legends, especially not when it is not directed at another player (i.e. when you are not calling another player an expletive). Was this the only game on your Reform Card?

zacktootall1 votes

but trolling and intentional feeding are perfectly fine right cuz what is wrong with intentionally throwing a game or 500 games right?! [slayer-jinx-unamused]

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

Unfortunately, this sort of idea seems to be rather prevalent on the boards at the moment, but it's not true. It's more difficult for Riot to punish trolling and intentionally feeding, because the Instant Feedback System was launched and seems to focus predominantly on chat violations. The Leaverbuster system was already in place to catch afk/leaves, and Riot doesn't disclose exactly how they monitor and detect the various third party and boosting violations.

Which leaves mainly the trolling and intentionally feeding left to be addressed. And that's not something that can be as easily addressed by the same bot that handles chat violations. It's one thing to create a program that scans chat logs and issues punishments based on uses of various slurs. It's an entirely different story to create a program to detect what is intentionally feeding vs having a bad game. Not every case is as simple as having a player go 0/20/0 and buy 6 tears on Lee Sin. The programs have to account for itemization, assists, participation in dragons/barons/towers. There's a lot more to it, and Riot does not want to punish innocent players who are having a bad game. Trolling and intentionally feeding is NOT okay, and no one at Riot is going to advocate throwing games, or doing anything that will deliberately negatively impact the gaming experience of your teammates. Just because they don't have a shiny new IFS in place for that right now doesn't mean it's not being worked on though. Riot is aware of the problem, and they have been working on it, and have alluded to things coming in the future as soon as the new client is broken in.

Mazkhan1 votes

In all honesty Riot wouldn't and doesn't give two fucks about us "average joes" its all about the world series and their dumb ass updates to make games go by faster. Remember when games would literally last for an hour because towers were deadly and unforgiving to dive? Yeah i remember that too. But now a Nami and Miss Fortune can tower dive you and walk away like it's nothing, Riot Games has gone down hill at an alarmingly fast pace, they've changed the game into one that can be done and over with at 20 minutes (I've actually won games at 20 minutes in, and this is not by the enemy surrendering.) Whether it's ranked, or Normal. Riot doesn't care, if they did do you honestly think they would have a broken system like The Tribunal?

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

The Tribunal isn't around any longer though. People weren't happy with it, because of how backlogged it was with literally thousands of cases waiting for review and thousands of toxic players going unchecked, simply because there were not enough members of The Tribunal to review all the cases. There are also always people who say any decisions made by people are biased, even though The Tribunal actually had the entire chat log, so it saw everyone's comments, not just the reported player's. The solution to that was the IFS. It's a bot, so it has absolutely no bias. Every player is judged on exactly the same standards by picking out keywords and phrases, and because it is automated, it works infinitely faster than the old Tribunal did.

Riot didn't change that because of the world series and pro players. They did it because of the "average joes." I know you may not think they care about the non-famous players, but many of the changes that happen are put in place as a direct result of the outcries of the main player base.

Mazkhan1 votes

Nah bro, i know for a fact Riot doesn't give two shits about us average joes. Their too busy catering to the World Series, game was at its prime during Seasons 1-3, after that it's just become utter shit filled with trolls and feeders. And it still happens with Auto-Fill, people getting stuck with roles they don't want. So they just go do something stupid like "Master Yi ADC" (Actually happened to me) and had more than half the deaths of the team because, yeah. Master Yi ADC is a REAL legitimate thing, I'd be more than willing to wait the 10 minutes to get into a game than to be stuck with a troll who got auto-fill and has a little hissy fit about it rather than dodging the lobby. GG riot.

Magical Player1 votes

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Nah bro, i know for a fact Riot doesn't give two shits about us average joes. Their too busy catering to the World Series, game was at its prime during Seasons 1-3, after that it's just become utter shit filled with trolls and feeders. And it still happens with Auto-Fill, people getting stuck with roles they don't want. So they just go do something stupid like "Master Yi ADC" (Actually happened to me) and had more than half the deaths of the team because, yeah. Master Yi ADC is a REAL legitimate thing, I'd be more than willing to wait the 10 minutes to get into a game than to be stuck with a troll who got auto-fill and has a little hissy fit about it rather than dodging the lobby. GG riot.

FOR A FACT, show me proof.

This Is Your Dad1 votes

I'm not so sure about this. I'm mildly toxic in ranked (never in normals) and I only get punished when I know I may have crossed the line. Just avoid telling people to kill themselves or insult them with real life insults. I tell people they suck with a champion, should play co op vs ai, or should stop expecting a gank while diving the enemy tower at level 2. I do not tell people to kill themselves, that they have autism, or that their parents should have aborted them. Also I don't tell people to kill themselves because it's just wrong, not because of the punishment.

Mazkhan1 votes

I can assure you I'm the same way. I'm mildly toxic when someones doing something stupid and i would never tell someone to "kys" because I've actually lost friends to suicide, and unfortunately. Ever since Season 3 the community has become nothing less than stupid, granted the cussing isn't against the rules and hardly do i ever actually direct it at a player. But that doesn't stop an overly sensitive person from reporting you because you did something as simple as ask them to play safe because their having a bad game, tilted to the point you could say "hi" and they would get overly offended.

Urf Mode Is Life1 votes

riot just wants you to make a new account and spend more $ on their game. Literally the ONLY reason they ban people.

Look at the "pros" live streams where they cus non stop and talk mad shit but because theres no chat record of it, they deem it acceptable behavior. This company is crooked as fuck

Dynikus2 votes

If they permanently ban you, they don't want you to come back. Ruining others' experience while playing the game is bad for business, and permanently suspending your account has to be one of the dumbest things a company could do to try to make more money. Like seriously, where do people come up with this shit?

Urf Mode Is Life1 votes

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If they permanently ban you, they don't want you to come back. Ruining others' experience while playing the game is bad for business, and permanently suspending your account has to be one of the dumbest things a company could do to try to make more money. Like seriously, where do people come up with this shit?

The irony of you thinking riot thinks anyone doesn't come back. I know several people with multiple perma-bans. The game is FREE TO PLAY, the ONLY THING YOU LOSE is your rank, skins, etc... making a new account and getting back to 30 takes barely 2-3 weeks. If you honestly think this system is to keep people from coming back, you are sadly mistaken. Please stop being ignorant, thank you

Dynikus1 votes

I never said riot thinks people don't come back after a permanent ban. I said they don't want you to come back. There's a pretty clear difference.

Magical Player1 votes

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riot just wants you to make a new account and spend more $ on their game. Literally the ONLY reason they ban people.

Look at the "pros" live streams where they cus non stop and talk mad shit but because theres no chat record of it, they deem it acceptable behavior. This company is crooked as fuck

talking shit on stream generates revenue...... being a dick in game generates what?

Did you know you too can report people on streams for being inappropriate. So you can punish even pros, for doing things that are breaking tos.....

Telephone Booth1 votes

Yeah that sucks. You knew the rules though. All you gotta do is not be toxic. It's quite simple.

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