Never-ending you are ineligible to earn loot due to previous behavioral restrictions.

ADayToRemember··6 votes·19,099 views

So, i've been chat restricted for 2 games i misbehaved, for a total of 10 games, which was fair. But now, after the chat restriction ended, I still cannot obtain loot.

I've search a bit, and turns out you keep this 'punishment' for a bit longer, however, i've played like 10-15 games AFTER the restriction ended, and I still don't get rewards?

For how long does this bs last, because this is really really demotivating, since i've played-out my restricted punishment games already.

30 Comments

RiotRiot Tantram9 votes

Not receiving hextech loot is not a punishment. Receiving hextech loot is a reward for sportsmanlike players. When you were punished, the reward was revoked as well, similar to how honor is reset when you are punished. The fact that your punishment is up does not mean your account is in good enough standing to receive hextech rewards.

Your reform period isn't over after a specific number of games, or after a certain date, but is completely dependent upon your behavior.

FrankerX3 votes

gotta ask... i have ribbons on this account (yea got honored a lot) and i managed to get punished... a bunch of times. lets just leave it by that.

but my ribbons and my honors never got resetted they are still there. reason?

RiotRiot Tantram13 votes

Your account actually has no honor or badges.

rtbf662816862 votes

Omg roasted haha

Mig891 votes

LMFAO I SPIT OUT A BITE OF TAMALE............. IM DYING

Incognonymous6 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Wjgpp3xY,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2016-07-18T18:40:44.584+0000)

Not receiving hextech loot is not a punishment. Receiving hextech loot is a reward for sportsmanlike players. When you were punished, the reward was revoked as well, similar to how honor is reset when you are punished. The fact that your punishment is up does not mean your account is in good enough standing to receive hextech rewards.

False. Eligibility is only gated by the criteria of not being punished. This is not the same as being sportsmanlike. Nor will being sportsmanlike actually earn you loot. It will earn ribbons, which do nothing. Another failed Riot implementation, which Hextech will prove itself to be in time as well.

The fact that he, while being punished, can go into the store and buy the very loot you claim he is denied from earning otherwise, is proof of the real motivations at play, if it doesn't outright explain the nebulous nature of the reform tier system.

As to restrictions being a punishment:

https://www.google.com/#q=punishment

the infliction or imposition of a penalty as retribution for an offense.

It 100% is. This is a penalty imposed upon earning a reward, that, by the very definition, of the very first thing that pops up when you google "punishment", is a punishment. Please retire this embarrassing defense. In the past, the language surrounding the loss of end of season ranked rewards was always that of punishment for behavioral reasons. Far too late to change the language now.

Xydem4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Wjgpp3xY,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2016-07-18T18:40:44.584+0000)

Not receiving hextech loot is not a punishment. Receiving hextech loot is a reward for sportsmanlike players. When you were punished, the reward was revoked as well, similar to how honor is reset when you are punished. The fact that your punishment is up does not mean your account is in good enough standing to receive hextech rewards.

Guys, can't you just call it a punishment instead of playing the semantics game. I went through it and got it taken care of and I'm back to receiving hextech rewards, and I definitely felt like it was a punishment.

I mean, you kind of say it yourself. You don't get this "reward" because you're not being good enough. If i'm not being good, it sounds like I deserve a punishment, so calling it a punishment sounds pretty appropriate. And, all in all, what is considered a punishment or not is really, or at least should really, be in the eyes of the one being punished. The chat restriction was hardly a punishment at all, given that I don't like to talk much in game anyway. But getting an S rank in the majority of the games I was playing to get my hextech rewards back and not being able to receive anything sucked soooooo hard.

What's the difference between saying "you can't type more than 5 messages," "you can't play this game for a week," and "you can't have hextech rewards" if it's all because of your bad behavior?

Just call it a punishment. I find it to be a pretty effective one. Mainly because it's pretty much the only way to get rewarded for being good at the game. Guess it really depends on how good someone is at playing though. Telling someone who can't win or get S ranks they can't have what they already can't get doesn't help much, lol.

NoobSaibutt1 votes

i totally agree. the same thing happened to me and i cant earn anything

Griff7601 votes

and what exactly puts your account back in "good standing"

Xydem1 votes

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and what exactly puts your account back in "good standing"

Pretty much just playing and not getting reported. About 30 to 40 games to get hextech back. At least for me for 10 chat restriction. I did it in less than 3 days of constant ARAMs. Not sure if getting honored helps or if not talking at all hurts though. If you're not really toxic and you're reports were because someone got butthurt over an argument, it should be easy, now that you are armed with the knowledge that you have to treat the game like a kindergarten classroom. If you are actually toxic, hopefully getting through however many games it takes you forms a habit of watching your mouth.. Err... Fingers?

KVbqbFsC8e2 votes

Its completely random.

Catastrophic374 votes

Love that the reform period has 0 indications. It's literally like the most cop out answer you can give. Someone can reform after a single game even during their initial restrictions. To leave it so vague and use it as an excuse is pretty ridiculous.

Terror135 votes

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Sorry I don't speak hypocritical greed demon, can someone translate? Keep telling yourself you're fighting for justice, like all evil do to justify their bullshit.

2muchsquanching1 votes

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AraMoOse4 votes

This is not a punishment, strictly speaking.

Hextech rewards are rewards for people who's accounts are in good standing. Your account is not in good standing.

Demon King Maou2 votes

Pretty sures that if you were bad during the season they give you a swift kick to the nuts and say FOR THE REST OF THE SEASONS YOU GET COAL

Could be wrong thoughs

SaintOfReports2 votes

we should able to see if we are in bad status though , any info on that comming ?

noonmoon2 votes

trio queue started spamming pings at me the whole entire game, 30 minute game so i told em to stfu what do you know none of them get any punishment but i get a fucking chat restriction this is retarded. groups have too much power fix your shit riot. now im stuck with this thing.

I Q1 votes

I believe the time of you not getting rewards is based off of time, not games.

Xydem1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shenpai Ekko,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Wjgpp3xY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-07-18T12:26:45.651+0000)

I believe the time of you not getting rewards is based off of time, not games.

It is based on games and not time. The punishment scale is based on time, 3 months to fall off to the next level. But it takes around 40 games with zero valid reports. I went through ARAMs and got mine off in about 3 days at around 30 something games...

Granted now I'm getting extremely frustrated because I'm afraid to say something to the duo mid that's feeding the whole team, and still cant even ping MIA, lol.

EvilDustMan1 votes

Hextech is for the good boys and girls.

Angry Monster1 votes

It take roughly 3 months for a player to prove reform to the system or to drop a tier level of toxicity. Punishment is only there to punish you and warn you that you are on the track of perma ban. It has nothing to do with reform in its self.

You need to prove that you are reformed through a significant amount of time and effort (games played). Most players average 2 games a day 5 days a week (averaging casuals and hard core fans). Its going to take a large sample size/games played to reduce the 3 month thresh hold.

Xidphel1 votes

Lol @ biased poll

Dessem2 votes

Best way to show you're reformed is make an insulting poll. kappa

Zombiemaster1 votes

You need to show consistent, improved behavior after your punishment is over in order to start earning loot again, although the more severe your punishment was, the longer this will take. Since your punishment was just a 10 game chat restriction, this could take only a few weeks (based on what I have seen reported by other players), however, if you aren't showing improved behavior, this could very well take much longer.

For more information about hextech restrictions, you can read this guide: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/209939463-Hextech-Crafting-Restrictions

Draconic PoweR1 votes

Sorry to bump an old topic but I just wanted to get another's input or a Rioters. It's said that the ineligibility to obtain loot after the restrictions ends is dependant on your personal behavior. Based on what I've read here that means going through games without a single valid report. However, what if you run into one of those games where you literally say nothing offensive in chat and play well but you are with or against a pre-made who is set on trolling everyone and reporting you for no reason. Does Riots system recognize that these reports should be invalid or does this affect your chances of getting the privilege of getting loot back?

SKT T1 Zeus1 votes

this so not fair cause i flamed in 2 games only cause i had an intentional troll in one and the second one someone actually flamed me first i got 10 games chat restriction and I've been honored in like 3 out of like 10 games after the punishment and i'm still ineligible definitely not fair

aalke1 votes

i feel you man i feel you, this community hates the players that are doing thier best. and give the players the punishment of getting mad, how good is that! :D while other people trolll / dc / feed in your team or saying im smurfing, or its not my account i dont care, -_- =\

aalke1 votes

i have the same to how long does this thing last.. i played over 20 games still got the same thing. why so much hate if you are mad at people if your getting so done with those players that are constantly making the same mistakes the same faults. the same feeding the same actions.. i dont understand this whole community they give the punishments towards the players that try thier best and let the feeders and the people that troll or just keep on dieng during a ranked game, no punishments at all. i think they should work more on that. instead of giving these players that are going like me for example 26/5 and i still lose my game cause we got 1 master yi that didnt wanted 2 group up even if i asked frendly hes just ignoring me. and i lost a ton of games people ignoring my calls even if i ask frendly i always get the hate on me after 5 times asking im getting mad.. and whos to blame its always me? over and over again that gets reported for understanding the game while playing with other retards from the same elo. and they all say 9/10 times, (well im smurfing i dont care i can troll.) or (this is not my account but from a frend i dont give a shit.) well work ur points straight of banning me. im not flaming without any reason or being mad without any reason. its just or they troll or they continue to feed or troll. (my username is You aalkio at EuW ) and i recieve the same problem played 25 games still got the same thing on my account and im trying 2 be frendly but u cant ask me to be frendly towards people that messing our game up towardsme and other players that wanna gain elo.) greetz Aalke.

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