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Proof of how the banning system isn't working or inconsistant

The GabZ··4 votes·790 views
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I also have this whole game recorded on Twitch but I don't think Riot lets me post Twitch Vods here so i just have a couple of the MANY screenshots that could of been taken (since i have to ALT when dead to take the screenshots).

This MF player this game started 0-3. We asked him, please stop dying bot. That is all that was said, he goes AFK for 15mins then he starts to continuously run down into the enemy team and feeding. This player then begins to not only abuse me and my teammates, but starts telling the other team exactly where we are on the map and where we are going (example the are at drag or at your blue). He starts bragging about how he has been doing this for 6 years playing League and Riot has never banned him more than 5 games of chat restriction which he says in game (is easy to get rid of)

He then continues to brag how he's on a smurf and doesn't care if he loses.

Long story short, this player made the game an absolute nightmare, every player on my team was extremely extremely abused and taunted by him saying Riot wouldn't do anything. Out of all my years of playing League I've never seen a more deserving person of a escaling 14 day ban. Given that he is taunting Riot's ability to ban him.

This player is in a Ranked game right now, me and every one else in the game added eachother and none of us got a report feedback for him. (except for one player on the other team that honored him for trying to make us lose)

This is what is wrong with your banning system Riot, This inconsistancy and allowance of extreme taunting of your system and nightmares of games is why some people continue to abuse/feed/rage/afk in games.

Irony: We ended up winning somehow but only because their WW afk'd also but at least he didnt stay to intentionally feed, and abuse and give away his teammates position. It makes me so sad to know he got LP for that game

I'm wondering if a Rioter can read this post, I'd be happy to cooperate and give all video evidence necessary to ban this player. Please give us the justice we deserve.

16 Comments

The GabZ5 votes

What is wrong with this community where they defend people like this? Is this community actually that bad, wow I had no idea.

Twiggles4 votes

Nobody is defending this person or their actions.

DJColdCutz3 votes

Welcome to the forums. In every post you'll find people whose wet dreams are to be rito mods one day, so they defend the obviously flawed status quo no matter what.

Anomander4 votes

The problem is you have to prove they lost on PURPOSE. This is a lot harder to prove then people think. Maybe they had a bad game and were responding to your negative attitude towards them. Causing them to tilt even further.

Bottom line is you have NO proof they deserve a ban although I will say 0/16 is hard to dispute. However this is what the report system is for and why they do investigations of accounts. This takes time. Some times weeks because riot doesn't want false positives and bans

The GabZ4 votes

What are you talking about? I have video proof of him saying he's feeding on purpose and every thing he said in game.

The only reason I can see you defending this player if because you are just like him

Anomander4 votes

You didn't post video proof of anything you have a link to pictures and said you have video which I cannot verify or see. Also I am not defending that player at all. What I am defending is RIOT and the fact they have to do a full investigation before banning someone.

Insulting me doesn't help your case just makes you seem like a douche.

Riot has to do the investigation and 1 game is not banable. Just because you can't see them working or doing the investigation doesn't mean that riot is not.

However NAME and SHAME is not appropriate on the forums.

lolptwo3 votes

I hope and pray this happens to you. Don't be surprised when trolls run rampant. Karma is real

The GabZ3 votes

You actually look like the douche here kid, let's be real you're detaining from the FACT that this player AFK'd, intentionally fed and is making fun of Riot's justice system. Which is all CLEAR AS DAY. The argument if you actually read the post was that his actions in this one game were so deplorable it should be ESCALTED to a 14 day ban.

That is the problem with their system you can say or do anything in game, and it's always just a warning. No matter how severe their actions were.

Anomander5 votes

No I am stating that RIOT needs to investigate the account.

Nothing changes the fact that each and every account deserves to have a full investigation done before a ban.

Not once have I defended or said that the behavior is ok. You on the other hand want RIOT to ban account based on your own opinion before they even have a chance to do a full investigation.

If you can't understand that the account has to be investigated and it has to meet the requirements for a punishment.

Most of the time 1 game is a isolated incident. If they have never done this before or since then they do not need to be banned instead I would say it was a isolated incident probably brought on by your behavior.

If you have video proof I would love to see it as you have no link to it and the pictures do not prove what your saying.

Sylias Ravenmore2 votes

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You didn't post video proof of anything you have a link to pictures and said you have video which I cannot verify or see. Also I am not defending that player at all. What I am defending is RIOT and the fact they have to do a full investigation before banning someone.

Insulting me doesn't help your case just makes you seem like a douche.

Riot has to do the investigation and 1 game is not banable. Just because you can't see them working or doing the investigation doesn't mean that riot is not.

However NAME and SHAME is not appropriate on the forums.

One game is 14 day bannable apparently.. because i got the ban after this game and it was the only one my score has ever been that bad http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA1/206890950

Anomander2 votes

Post reform card link. I find it really hard to believe you were banned for one game.

Also you have games showing for even today....... Somehow your just not believable.

Zombiemaster3 votes

I can tell you with almost absolute certainty that this person has NOT been doing this for 6 years without getting more than a chat restriction for punishment.

Looking at your op.gg, I see who the player in question is, and looking at that player's op.gg, it seems as though this was an isolated instance. I don't see any other games in that player's match history where it's obvious he was intentionally feeding and acting like that. The thing is, the system doesn't tend to punish for single instances. It can, but it's fairly rare. Rather, it tends to punish players who show this kind of behavior in multiple games.

Also, a single case is far from actual proof that the punishment system doesn't work or is inconsistent.

lolptwo3 votes

It's ironic how you question his assesment of the player based on his "lack of proof' I want to see your PROOF that the player hasnt been doing it for 6 years. Let's see it. It's also really easy to trick the system into making it believe a toxic player is really not toxic. You can only see 30 games in OP.GG the only proof we have is the guy said he's been doing it for 6 years.

Also your "absolute certainty" is a absolute fallacy by the same logic that you are condemning this post, the irony.

Also I see him taunting Riot in chat, being negative and a 0-19 end of game score WITH him running into the team. That's called proof my friend, you must learn to assess what proof is. Also Riot also claims depending on the severity of the incidences, they do escalate bans to 14 day bans. I would say intentionally feeding, verbal abuse, AFK, and unsportsmanlike(telling the other team where the team is) all rolled into one is definitely merited a 14 day escalation ban if they investigate to find the rest true. However even from this post I can see enough to get the player banned, I don't know how you're not seeing it.

Zombiemaster2 votes

No one here has any proof of whether this person has been acting like this for 6 years without getting punished. All we really have to go on is the person's word. However, by looking at his match history on op.gg (which by the way I can see more than 30 games, as far back as ~2 months ago) I at least have some, not much, but some reason to believe the player hasn't. Is it absolute proof? No. It's entirely possible that maybe this person one or 2 games every couple hundred, as that is quite likely not to be caught and punished by the system, particularly the way the system was in the past.

Also, I never said that the player in question doesn't deserve a ban, I was simply stating how the system works. I absolutely agree that the player deserves a ban. I hate when people act like this and I don't want them in my games.

Lastly, when I said "proof," I didn't mean that this isn't proof that the player acted like this. What I meant was this one case where the system happened to not catch and punish someone who deserves it isn't really proof that the system itself isn't working or is inconsistent. If the system is actively punishing multiple people every day but happens to miss one person who deserves it, it doesn't mean it's not working because there's hundreds among hundreds of cases that show that it is. I guess you could argue that this shows inconsistency, but imo one outlier doesn't really mean inconsistency.

lolptwo1 votes

Ok thank you for clarifying that makes much more sense

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