This guy if dumb sometimes but he never really means what he says. Whatever perma ban he obtained from these derogatory terms wasnt the voice of opinion he truly thought. Hopefully he will get unbanned and be able to play with perhaps a chat restrictions his acc is <removed by moderation>
ModThe Djinn17 votesYour friend will remain banned. Regardless of what his personal opinions may be, what matters is how he acts when using the League client. Hate speech and support of a genocidal dictator are not appropriate jokes, and never will be. Sometimes our choices have consequences that are not reversible, and, in this instance, his decision to "joke around" in this manner has the consequence of a permanent ban. He may not have personally meant anything by it, but that doesn't mean the words somehow mean something else, or become more acceptable.
YerroFever4 votesIt's highly unlikely that a cat walked on the keyboard and hit those keys in sequential order so I'm going to assume it was intentional.
Whether or not he said it to be hurtful or inflammatory just for shits and giggles, did still intentionally say it. Therefore, his punishment is proper.
Riot has repeatedly said that properly issued behavioral punishments will not be reversed... and it sounds like it's a properly issued punishment based on what you described.
EarthyMadness3 votesI think Djinn summed it up fairly well, but I would also like to note, if he's permabanned then it wasn't his first offense.
Hate speech is considered zero-tolerance and is met with a 14-day suspension first offense. You just don't get permabanned for the first time. So not only did he know what he was saying, he had a chance to rectify that behavior before it escalated to a permanent suspension.
He didn't.
webstar19952 votesIt's not hard to make another account. Just do not say that in games. That's even easier.
A Pretty Unicorn2 votesGood riddance.
Warlord Rhinark2 votesOi.
No naming and shaming.
Amare Essentia2 votesThat is unfortunate I will inform him of this thank you for your quick and simple responses.
ModThe Djinn4 votes[{quoted}](name=Lunae Essentia,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=WIFTJd1q,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-06-27T15:41:08.851+0000)
That is unfortunate I will inform him of this thank you for your quick and simple responses.
You're welcome. If he chooses to make a new account, I would recommend that he first re-read the Summoner's Code and think about how the sort of jokes he may like may cross the lines laid out by Riot and the community.
Hexs Fortune2 votesThe "I never really meant it" defense is laughable.
Vlada Cut1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hexs Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=WIFTJd1q,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-06-27T18:07:39.308+0000)
The "I never really meant it" defense is laughable.
Agreed, such pathetic excuse is laughable and shouldn't be given a pity about it.
ModJeonGoyangi2 votesHi Summoner!
I edited out the name from your post, as per the Board rule against Name & Shame. Calling out people in the manner you used creates a witch hunt which is not allowed.
If you have a problem with someone in game, then be sure to use the report function at the end of the game, or if someone continues to harass you out of game, then submit a Support Ticket.
If you have any questions about this moderation action, don't hesitate to reach out to the Boards Moderation Team via:
~KittySuppSquad [sona-playing] [sg-soraka]
Imperial Pandaa1 votesIs he really trying to get a witch hunt going though? He isn't so much go "beware and avoid/report" this person. As much as he is trying to argue that his 'friend' was joking and feels it should be a chat restriction instead of a ban.
ModThe Djinn1 votes[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=WIFTJd1q,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2018-06-29T14:00:19.123+0000)
Is he really trying to get a witch hunt going though? He isn't so much go "beware and avoid/report" this person. As much as he is trying to argue that his 'friend' was joking and feels it should be a chat restriction instead of a ban.
Regardless of intent, calling other players out for negative behavior isn't allowed, and the thread loses nothing by the removal as far as the core question goes. It's more a clean-up than a warning unless we see this behavior from an individual repeatedly, which is not the case here.
Imperial Pandaa1 votesThank you for the clarity on the situation.
I suppose the part that threw me through a loop was the second paragraph about report function. Looking at it as clean up and the post not losing anything in it does make sense.
HolyJellyMate2 votesYour friend may have been "joking", but he was also being very insensitive. You don't know if a certain league player in your game(s) had a loved one who survived the atrocities of the Holocaust. The remarks from your friend may have hurt that league player in question personally, possibly to an extreme degree (you'll never know). Tell your friend to watch what he says, because people can get hurt as easy as 123, with just ONE comment, even if it was intended as a joke. There are more dumb, but less edgy alternatives your friend could've used. Words hurt more than a fed Zed.
Infernape1 votesI mean, what he said is technically hate speech and is generally frowned upon. I don't think Riot would unban him.
While I wouldn't find it offensive and can see the potential joke, someone else might take offence to it (which is probably what happened considering someone reported him for what he said).
CharDeeMcDenniz1 votes0 chance he gets unbanned and I'm glad for it
why would that ever be the joke you decide to use with total strangers?
P4ppino1 votesYea that account is gone. Farewell.
Hellmaximus11 votes[{quoted}](name=Lunae Essentia,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=WIFTJd1q,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-27T15:06:21.296+0000)
Hopefully he will get unbanned and be able to play with perhaps a chat restrictions his acc is [Player's Name]
Pretty sure that's considered Naming and Shaming. Even if it's unintentional as people could use the excuse of "This is my friend" in order to shame someone.