So I got perma'd for scripting/hacking/3rd person program

F0rqbISoXf·Jun 30, 2017·2 votes·1,378 views

Okay listen up, I play ALOT of league, its the main game I play, sadly i discovered that my account has been perma banned for scripting/hacking/3rd person program, but what really honestly confuses me, is HOW did I get banned? I don't use scripts, I dont have hacks, and what 3rd person program is there that will get me banned? I'm honestly extremely sad over this, because I myself have spent many hours, and spent much money into my account, and with that recently got Soulstealer vayne after spending approx 300+ euros on boxes, its now all going to waste, for absolute no reason of my own knowing...

Can you guys for once, not just close a case, but actually help me with this? because I'm confused as hell, and really want to know what the actual reasoning is to this ban...

hopefully we can fix this together.

29 Comments

archerno1Jun 30, 20177 votes

You shared your account with someone who uses scripts. While u usually put flash on F

http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3240362626/201943581?tab=overview

As in this game.

Someone else played on your account with flash on D

http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3207469087/201943581?tab=overview

And account started climbing rapidly when guy who uses flash on F took over

ProtokaiJun 30, 20172 votes

also went from playing Primary AD playing mostly AP champs mid during the past 9 days

F0rqbISoXfJun 30, 20171 votes

i see where you are coming from, but how funny it actually is, i play flash on D and F depending on where im playing, i started playing AP mid aka tf/kassa etc, because i was getting sick and tired of playing marksmans, as they werent giving me much wins, i guess this does sound kinda sketchy, but no one has had access to my account (in my knowing) in the past month.

archerno1Jun 30, 20172 votes

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i see where you are coming from, but how funny it actually is, i play flash on D and F depending on where im playing, i started playing AP mid aka tf/kassa etc, because i was getting sick and tired of playing marksmans, as they werent giving me much wins, i guess this does sound kinda sketchy, but no one has had access to my account (in my knowing) in the past month.

Dont lie.

http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3215718989/201943581?tab=overview

Here is another ADC game where u played with flash on D

And likewise another game with flash on F as ADC.

http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3240362626/201943581?tab=overview

And if i scroll down on your match history, months and months back. Even whole year u only ever played with flash on D.

F0rqbISoXfJun 30, 20171 votes

It's called taking tips from friends, but it's fine whatever you like to find, i used to use alot of flash on D, started using flash on F on my other account for awhile too, to practice. but look, im not telling you have to believe me, but im not stupid enough to use stupid programs on my account that has over 500 euro worth of skins + Soulstealer Vayne, so whatever you think, its fine.

archerno1Jun 30, 20173 votes

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It's called taking tips from friends, but it's fine whatever you like to find, i used to use alot of flash on D, started using flash on F on my other account for awhile too, to practice. but look, im not telling you have to believe me, but im not stupid enough to use stupid programs on my account that has over 500 euro worth of skins + Soulstealer Vayne, so whatever you think, its fine.

Its not called tips from friends. U were silver for 3 seasons and most of last season. Suddenly someone started playing TF on your account and got insane winrate in preseason

http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/2885766117/201943581?tab=overview

This is your own performance on TF with flash on D

http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3235082775/201943581

And this is you with flash on F, u will notice u take GHOST. Farming is also much better with flash on F,warding and winrate

F0rqbISoXfJun 30, 20171 votes

Wait, so it's not possible to actually learn at one point in league? i suck at league, and have sucked all my life, but i played for fun, back in the day i thought u ALWAYS had to take flash and ignite on mid, but at a point when u start understanding and learning from a older age, u get that there are actually tactics in the game, but w/e

archerno1Jun 30, 20172 votes

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Wait, so it's not possible to actually learn at one point in league? i suck at league, and have sucked all my life, but i played for fun, back in the day i thought u ALWAYS had to take flash and ignite on mid, but at a point when u start understanding and learning from a older age, u get that there are actually tactics in the game, but w/e

Well, in normal conditions it is possible. But system caught you cheating. So person who used your account was using scripts without your knowledge. League has automatic system that detects scripts that interract with client. And considering how lately your MMR has started rapidly growing, how your winrate magically increased. How your KDA and winrate on champs u never played before or you played them horribly. Basically how everything magically changed in ONE single day by changing flash from D to F.

Sorry but if u go for years with one summoner setup (both ranked and normals) hold flat line in your ELO, you dont magically pick up TF change summoner position after 8 months and build 80% winrate and higher CS than u ever had. It can happen gradually, but not overnight

F0rqbISoXfJun 30, 20171 votes

i have had high winrate games plenty of times, they happen every now and then, its not like u have a 50% winrate 24/7 u have big lose and big win streaks ALOT of times, and i finally started caring about how i played, and started taking actions serious, like looking at map, thinking what to and when to do things

AnomanderJun 30, 20172 votes

Did you try a support ticket? if you really are innocent keep trying support tickets.

F0rqbISoXfJun 30, 20171 votes

I have sent one, waiting on reply, but im certain im innocent, but if im fully honest, i dont think riot will concider unbanning my account.

thats just out of logical thinking, most buisinesses wont do much for 1 player complaining sadly

HalcyonDwellerJun 30, 20172 votes

This is incorrect. Rioters do revert bans. See the post linked below.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/N0yPz370-play-legit-get-banned

Have faith, if you're being legit then Riot will help you out. If not though... well you'll get more of this:

I can't find the link, a player named 4Jhin (with a fancy i) tried to appeal a report that he had deserved instead, and when it got Rioter attention he just got smited publicly.

Void NargacugaJun 30, 20172 votes

Have you ever shared the account?

F0rqbISoXfJun 30, 20171 votes

Well I mean, my brother knows my account, but he has his own Dia account to play on, and he wouldnt boost me, because he thinks its unfair

Void NargacugaJun 30, 20171 votes

Have they ever played on it though?

Other question that comes to mind: Do you use any kind of 3rd party software? Eg custom skins.

Trying my best to help you out.

F0rqbISoXfJun 30, 20171 votes

well i have used a custom skin software back in the day, but riot sent me an email warning me that it wasnt aloud, and they made me delete it ( because back then i was young and dumb and didnt know if was aloud ) so i deleted it, and never started it up again.

And my brother has never ( of my knowing ) played on my account, now that i think about it, i do have a group of friends that know my email ( that has the same password as my main lol acc ) but again, dont think they would play on a g2 account seeing they are all higher elo than me as in like dia+

TheDonarJun 30, 20171 votes

That sucks if you are indeed an honest player.

I'm not saying this in an asshole-ish "you're a noob" way either, but your match history doesn't have a string of 29k-1d-30a type performances. There are decent games and bad games (like most of us who aren't Faker or something have).

Basically I'm saying if you are scripting, you need to get better at using them because it doesn't look like what you would expect from a scripter's history.

I hope it gets fixed...if not...can you ask them to gift me that Vayne skin please? hahaha

HalcyonDwellerJun 30, 20171 votes

You can always appeal it to Riot Support. They will review your case and may or may not lift the ban depending on if it was legitimate. http://support.riotgames.com/

You won't find a lot of sympathy on the boards because we are used to players lying about this stuff in an effort to scare us and to try to gain popular support before making a case to Riot. (It never works out in your favor to do that by the way)

If you are being honest then I'm sorry you're dealing with this. But if you are one of the liars, then all i have to say is you are a disgusting cheater, get out.

Self-edited to remove especially harsh remarks.

F0rqbISoXfJun 30, 20171 votes

let me be absolutely fully honest, i DID NOT cheat in any way, riot is saying i used a 3rd party program to take advantage over the enemys, but how on earth did i do that? i legit have 10 programs on my pc, its league pubg csgo and my nvidia and corsair and razer shit pretty much all i have..

i dont get how i got banned in the first place over cheating/hacking... it would be more logical if it was for flaming, whilst i barely do that either.

HalcyonDwellerJun 30, 20171 votes

Then getting a manual review via support ticket is your best option.

These sorts of things are done in waves, so you're probably not alone in your situation. They won't tell you why you were banned for 3rd party programs (if they revealed their detection methods then scripters could potentially find ways around them), but if the ban was unwarranted then they will lift it. They did it the last time there was a ban wave for scripting and they ended up reverting some false positives.

F0rqbISoXfJun 30, 20172 votes

I sent a ticket, they dont wont to lift my ban, nor do they want to give me a proper reason why i got banned, they know exactly what happend, but they dont want to tell me...

I must be honest, riot isnt handling my situation right, atleast in my eyes they arent, guess they just stole all my money for no reason, god what do i love riot, guess i wont ever be playing their game again after this, hope you all have a great day, even tho i spend quite a bit of money, they wont miss me quitting the game, they earn tons anyway, greedy people.

good day on the rift people..

HalcyonDwellerJun 30, 20171 votes

If it looked like an automated response then you need to just ask again. First response is usually automatic because they don't want to waste time responding when they receive many many appeals in a single day and most of those appeals are from players who did deserve their punishment. You may not have been manually reviewed yet, and you may not have talked to a person yet. Be polite and persistent, they will review the case and if you are legitimate then they will lift the ban.

But if they know what happened with your account and won't tell you then it is probably something to do with scripting. They cannot tell you how because if they gave out answers on that then scripters could piece together how they are caught and develop workarounds to it.

It could have something to do with account sharing as well, since in the other comments on this thread it seemed to present a reasonable case for the possibility of another person using your account. No offense, but significant jumps in CS, ward count, and other scores along with summoner spells switching slots at the same time together are pretty clear indicators of another player using the account.

F0rqbISoXfJun 30, 20171 votes

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Okay listen up, I play ALOT of league, its the main game I play, sadly i discovered that my account has been perma banned for scripting/hacking/3rd person program, but what really honestly confuses me, is HOW did I get banned? I don't use scripts, I dont have hacks, and what 3rd person program is there that will get me banned? I'm honestly extremely sad over this, because I myself have spent many hours, and spent much money into my account, and with that recently got Soulstealer vayne after spending approx 300+ euros on boxes, its now all going to waste, for absolute no reason of my own knowing...

Can you guys for once, not just close a case, but actually help me with this? because I'm confused as hell, and really want to know what the actual reasoning is to this ban...

hopefully we can fix this together.

also some fun things, maybe this will show that i dont script, i record everygame i play http://plays.tv/u/ZerqahM8 i guess i have some decent plays on here ( some may look sketchy maybe ) but this is also just ALITTLE proof ( not enough ) but some proof to show i dont like to hack in any way possible http://plays.tv/u/ZerqahM8

xCupidJun 30, 20171 votes

Maybe one day you'll get your account back. But cheaters have NO place in this game dude. Account sharing is same. Riot is not dumb. They have your IP and the others. Why this is wrong? It's unfair for the enemy team to be up against a skilled player who is using your account. They're not ready for all that. It's unfair to you because you're not learning anything, and lastly, its unfair to your team because now they have to play with your lack of skill in that division. [slayer-jinx-unamused] duh

F0rqbISoXfJun 30, 20171 votes

you know whats funny, this is my main account, its the acc i invest all my RP into, the funny part is, i have a second account for, that is plat3 (done be me) and just me, so its no unfair part for me, maybe for the enemys, but the thing is, i didnt (intentionally) let anyone on my account then, all i know is that it was ME who played the games with the D and F flash changes.

YerroFeverJun 30, 20171 votes

IMO based on your game history, you are sharing your account with someone...

I'm a creature of habit and when I play, I don't like swapping my summoners around. On your ranked games, they are on one but in ARAM's they are on another. Flash is something you need muscle memory on and I'm sorry to say but it looks like the person you might be sharing your account with is scripting.

Your previous ranks were silver and now your MMR is plat. It seems very suspicious that you could make the jump from silver to plat in one season.

It honestly looks like you're using a boosting service.

F0rqbISoXfJun 30, 20171 votes

you know whats funny, this is my main account, its the acc i invest all my RP into, the funny part is, i have a second account, that is plat3 (done be me, and done with flash on F, muscle memory is done by me in more ways possible, i can play both ways) and just me, so its no unfair part for me, maybe for the enemys, but the thing is, i didnt (intentionally) let anyone on my account then, all i know is that it was ME who played the games with the D and F flash changes.

YerroFeverJun 30, 20171 votes

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you know whats funny, this is my main account, its the acc i invest all my RP into, the funny part is, i have a second account, that is plat3 (done be me, and done with flash on F, muscle memory is done by me in more ways possible, i can play both ways) and just me, so its no unfair part for me, maybe for the enemys, but the thing is, i didnt (intentionally) let anyone on my account then, all i know is that it was ME who played the games with the D and F flash changes.

Claiming you have another account that is plat means absolutely nothing. You can say you're account X that has a plat rating but that does not necessarily mean you actually own that account.

Why would you spend all of your time playing ranked on an alt and raise that rank to plat over your main account? If you inspect your MMR tracking over the last 6 months, you started off in silver and had a very long streak in silver and a brief stay in gold and then dropped back to the bottom of Gold 5, then your MMR suddenly spiked through all of the ranks of gold and now your MMR is in plat.

Going from silver to plat is a large jump and it is very suspicious not only for skill level but for player behavior. If you were plat on another account, why did you have silver for so many games in season 7? You have approximately 400 ranked games in this season alone, which means you were grinding a lot, not just placements and then going through promos and going up to plat. You were down in silver and gold 5 for months and then this month you just shoot up to plat? How do you manage 400 ranked games on this account in that short of a time while still playing ranked on another account?

F0rqbISoXfJul 1, 20171 votes

this account IS my main, and this account has had its highest peak at G2 and then i got bored of playing on my main after i went down again, i started a 2nd account along time ago, and then i started playing on that account for the fun of it, starting to play ranks and farming champs all over again, i had all champs on my main, and was really getting bored, so then i got pretty good after awhile in league and then got that account to plat, the jump i made from g to p was not even that different in people playing, everyone was just as good and just as shit nothing major if you really think that.