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One week suspension because of my name

PacoTabaco·Apr 28, 2018·79 votes·19,610 views

So my summoner name was ''Stalinist ADC'' and i had a technichal issue with league so contacted riot to see what could have went wrong. In the mail he gave me the solution and then told me that i had to change my summoner name without any expanation( note that i didn't get any reports, usually people didn't care about my name just the rioter did). So i changed it to ''Marxist ADC'' and contacted him to know why my name had to be changed. He told me that it was linked to stalin's regime and that stuff so i though ''well i knew this was going to come''. But he also told me that i had to change my new name ''Marxist ADC'' and the reason is that ''está relacionado con ideologías de dominación metal de la sociedad capitalista''. Transtaled would be that it's ''linked with metal domination ideologies of the capitalist society''. I was like ''What even is this reason'' and decided to go back to my old name(since no one reported me for it i though it was safe, i couldn't get a ban if no one reported me). And again asked for reasons. No reasons were given and i got a week suspension.

155 Comments

Spacesuit SpiffApr 28, 201832 votes

Tbh id expect the boards to be more offended by the ADC part

Afk mid to fapApr 28, 20184 votes

or take the name ardent adc. rip

saltranApr 28, 201824 votes

Stalin did nothing wrong

Automated RivenApr 28, 20184 votes

Stalin was responsible for 6-9 million non combat deaths during his regime. So ya. He did do something wrong.

Afk mid to fapApr 28, 201811 votes

blasphamy you got to gulag now

SplitgripsApr 28, 201810 votes

i dont hear those 6-9 mil people complaining about it.. Do you?

Yuvn TiApr 28, 20184 votes

You fucking win the internet

saltranApr 28, 20182 votes

Yeah I've heard enough of the western propaganda that hates Stalin for being the one who defeated Hitler. Churchill is a saint btw, nothing happened on India.

Sp33d Zer0Apr 28, 20182 votes

It's almost like every country uses it's own propaganda to make itself seem greater than it really is.

TerozuApr 28, 20181 votes

And?

What about the billions of people he didn't kill.

Joking aside, he made some bad descisions. But he did not actually mean for most pf those people to die. That's more of side effect of communist government. And he is not solely to blame. He also helped stop hitler(unless im confused there).

He was an asshole yes, but he did seem to legitimately think his descisions would help the people.

Automated RivenApr 28, 20186 votes

I know he did intend good. But intentions don't matter when you see your actions killing millions of people and refuse you change your methods. His policies resulted in millions dying. We cannot write that off as (good intentions)

Trias000Apr 29, 20184 votes

[{quoted}](name=Automated Riven,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W1Bbjryl,comment-id=0002000000040000,timestamp=2018-04-28T22:37:55.541+0000)

I know he did intend good. But intentions don't matter when you see your actions killing millions of people and refuse you change your methods. His policies resulted in millions dying. We cannot write that off as (good intentions)

Do you mean Marx or Stalin? Because you can't be seriously implying Stalin's good intentions.

NGCM101Apr 29, 20183 votes

He actually meant for these people to die. They stood between him and his totalitarian dream. He conquered half of Europe and established Communist dictatorships. His actions resulted to the deaths of ca 30 million people. He did not stop Hitler. Hitler made terrible mistakes in his Russian campaign and lost. He would have lost the WW II of course. The Americans would have bombarded Berlin with the atomic bomb instead of Japan, although Soviet forces played a vital role.

Stalin betrayed Communism and with it, the dream of millions. He turned it into a bureaucratic nightmare and destroyed every other European communist Party that stood against him (The only way to Socialism and Communism) ...

The system that imposed in USSR caused its downfall because it actually never changed until Gorbachef (speled wrong i guess) who tryed a democratic opening in the markets and in thje political life and we know what happened there.

Friendly RamApr 28, 201821 votes

This again? First bisex and now references to russias past are banned?

Spank the FoxApr 28, 201810 votes

[{quoted}](name=Friendly Ram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W1Bbjryl,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-04-28T12:53:13.415+0000)

This again? First bisex and now references to russias past are banned?

Lmao you know OP is intentionally trying to be edgy and is not “references to russia’s past” don’t be dumb.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Deserved ban

Jerry SeinfeIdApr 28, 201859 votes

your name promotes animal abuse, please change it i'm offended...

Spank the FoxApr 28, 20183 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jerry SeinfeId,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W1Bbjryl,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2018-04-28T15:50:50.537+0000)

your name promotes animal abuse, please change it i'm offended...

EUW post, disregard.

abca98Apr 28, 201849 votes

You can't really use the "disregarded because region" card while playing in OCE

Afk mid to fapApr 28, 201813 votes

lol no one cares about oce

3TWarriorApr 28, 20187 votes

yep, because the children's children's children of the survivors haven't died yet

The OasisApr 28, 20188 votes

My grandfather's roommates cousin died in General Mao's China. Pls rename Maokai

OnlyNineTailsApr 28, 201819 votes

I came across a guy called ChildrenRapist last night :/

ChermorgApr 28, 201817 votes

Deliberately choosing offensive names is a punishable offense. You were given a free change, and you chose to use it to skirt the line of what's okay again.

Each region has different standards as to what is offensive and I cannot speak to the EUW standards - but I can certainly see how this would be offensive, especially in Europe.

PacoTabacoApr 28, 201832 votes

Something is offensive when there is feedback. I didn't get a single report for the name and the comments about my name were always good fun. So if there is not negative community feedback about my name it is not offensive. Only the rioter who performed the ban though it COULD be offensive. The terms of use in the 5.xi section applies to names that ARE offensive and not to names that could be offensive(and yes this is the reason the rioter gave me about the name).

ChermorgApr 28, 201815 votes

You have no way of knowing whether you were reported for the name or not. If you were reported for the first name, it isn't a stretch to assume you would be for the second as well.

Furthermore, the Terms of Use give Riot sole authority to determine offensive. Not you.

IfnethApr 28, 201816 votes

Note: I am playing Devil’s Advocate and understand that you’re not the one responsible for this.

Telling someone that they cannot have the name “Stalinist ADC” because it’s offensive is reasonable or at least understandable: Stalin was the mass-murdering dictator of a totalitarian one-party state.

Whereas telling someone that they cannot have the name Marxist ADC because you find that name offensive is not understandable or reasonable. Marxism is a political ideology, which, while extreme, is no more moderate than libertarianism or anarcho-capitalism. Would choosing the name “Atlas Shrugged” or “Taxation is Theft” also earn you a ban?

If so, then that’s one step down a slippery slope of banning non-mainstream political names or outright banning political statements in naming. The latter would include statements like, “Save the Whales” for a Nami main, “Yordles Love NASA” for a Heimerdinger main, and “Stand United, NATO” for a Shen main. The former would just be discrimination against leftism.

I hope Marxist ADC was not dis-allowed just because he had previously chosen Stalinist ADC, either. That’s just spiteful.

saltranApr 28, 20185 votes

Stalin was the one who defeated Hitler besides what the western propaganda says, and ppl on Russia today still have Stalin in a good historic spot since they are not affected by western media.

Remember Stalingrado.

Automated RivenApr 28, 20183 votes

Stalin was responsible for millions of deaths. But sure. Celebrate him if you want.

Sp33d Zer0Apr 28, 20184 votes

And Hitler turned Germany around into an economic powerhouse after the worst depression it has ever had.

You can do some good things and still be a terrible person.

Automated RivenApr 28, 20182 votes

To be fair. Maxism pretty much is mainstream policial identities.

camodomApr 28, 20187 votes

If it makes you feel any better, I don't see how marixst adc is an offensive term whatsoever

Subject 5Apr 29, 20181 votes

{quoted}

Deliberately choosing offensive names is a punishable offense. You were given a free change, and you chose to use it to skirt the line of what's okay again.

Each region has different standards as to what is offensive and I cannot speak to the EUW standards - but I can certainly see how this would be offensive, especially in Europe.

Riot basically banned him for using a government system that the capitalist world disagrees with. If I have some kind of trauma with Toast, does that make it justified then? Furthermore, can you imagine people that have the name Joseph or Hitler? Literally not being able to use that name because of something bad that happened like almost 100 years ago. This is SJW levels of stupid logic, and I'm not surprised that a moderator on the forum agrees with Riot on it.

Trias000Apr 29, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Subject 5,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W1Bbjryl,comment-id=0004000a,timestamp=2018-04-29T04:48:27.148+0000)

Riot basically banned him for using a government system that the capitalist world disagrees with.

Yes, it's all about mere disagreement. Let's ignore the 20 million people killed by that "government system".

NGCM101Apr 29, 20182 votes

{quoted}

Yes, it's all about mere disagreement. Let's ignore the ~~20 million~~ 100 million people killed by that "government system".

PacoTabacoApr 28, 201816 votes

And this is my first suspension btw. I didn't even get a chat restriction in my life.

Imperial PandaaApr 28, 201810 votes

That's because a name doesn't involve chat. That would be like expecting a chat restriction for trolling when it starts at a ban.

Edit: So down voted for explaining why you wouldn't get a chat restriction for a name thing? While neither agreeing nor disagreeing, legit.

Ninja AssassinApr 28, 20181 votes

You probably down-voted, because people disagree with the policy of bans without chat restrictions or warnings.

Imperial PandaaApr 28, 20183 votes

Which I can understand, when it involves chat.

Logically, why would they give a chat restrict for either name offenses or gameplay? You don't.

I do find it interesting that is was a week ban though. Odd length. Would love to see the OPs tickets.

Ninja AssassinApr 28, 20183 votes

Because it is a lesser punishment which would probably fit a lesser offense such as an inappropriate name. Especially an offense that is purely subjective such as this one.

Erwin RommeIApr 28, 201815 votes

I was named Adolf Hitler . I didn't get banned or warned they just gave me a free name change.

HarrowRApr 28, 20185 votes

haha nice new name,Desert Fox

DoozkuApr 28, 20187 votes

Nice name btw

Afk mid to fapApr 28, 20186 votes

i like you

SpiritOfOdysseusApr 28, 201812 votes

The same thing would happen if you had "Hitlers ADC" as your name.

Stalin and Hitler were one in the same in terms of their cruelty towards whatever went against their regime. We literally don't have to go over this.

I can see Marxist ADC as a huge improvement over "Stalinist ADC", as Karl Marx can be compared to Ghandi with his school of thought. Apparently the Rioter is Cuban or something /s EDIT: oh this is EUW, well duh

TerozuApr 28, 20182 votes

Stalin was not as cruel as Hitlers actions. Hitler locked people up tortured an experimented on them. Made them into clothing and soap.

Stalin made some bad descisions, was admittedly paranoid and terrible at rooting out corruption while also being a greedy asshole.

Stalin killed more people. Hitler did it in far worse ways.

RegizApr 29, 20185 votes

Actually - not true. Famine and death as a result of labor/concentration camps (Soviets had them too, even more than Third Reich), or just by stupid Soviet policy are also inhuman and cruel. Saying that Stalin only 'made some bad decisions' is highly inaccurate and unfair. 'Communist' leaders like Mao, or Pol Pot were 10 times more cruel in their actions than Hitler. Mengele and Himmler in reality were out of Hitlers control. It's very popular theory that Hitler didn't know about a lot of things that were made by SS, because these 'experiments' are results of Mengele sick dreams. Adolf was more concentrated on war things. He even didn't care about Germany domestic policy (his ministers were replacing him many times). You can't blame Wehrmacht and all officers and leaders of Germany between 1933-1945 for things that they didn't know about (and it's a fact confirmed by diaries, interviews and articles). Lots of them were just soldiers, that served in national army (like Rommel, one of greatest officers in WW II and in overall history of 'modern Germany').

AakraosApr 28, 201811 votes

This is just crazy, no excuses. Of course I follow the idea that "Stalinist ADC" could be a reasonable name, but question "Marxist ADC" as a name is total censorship. He was an ideologist and philosopher, his ideas did not harm people more then Nietsche's ones. The rioter may have been too earnest by questioning the "Stalinist ADC", but is understandable; he got totally wrong questioning the "Marxist ADC" name, and if Riot's rules are of this opinions, they are wrong.

hhaavviikkApr 28, 201810 votes

quite the silly turn of events, even moreso that he responded in a different language lol

Mr KillalotApr 29, 20184 votes

I honestly think that rioter is just discriminating against you based on his own personal beliefs. Your initial name is arguable at best (like I guess I can see how some people might be offended, but they would have pretty paper skin and are the same type that would go off on you for calling "maroon" red). But to say "Marxist", which is a school of thought, is offensive tells me this is nothing but discrimination on that rioters part. If you truly have never been reported for having an offensive name in game, this is a gross misuse of power by some rioter who is using his own personal beliefs and philosophies to control the game.

Penta PenguinApr 29, 20184 votes

''well i knew this was going to come''

ok then, case closed, be smarter next time

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