How is that chat log perma ban worthy?

SudokuSuweren··2 votes·885 views

So i was perma banned a while ago. I made a new account and im already level 27. The problem is, more than half of the games i played since level 1 i was called names in game. I was flamed, verbally abused in over half of the games and i reported every single one of them. I never gotten the message about them being punished. Those are my chat logs. https://imgur.com/a/q1zeR In every single of those chat logs i was the one being verbally abused and hard flamed, in one game even by every single of my teammates. In other games i was defending myself pointing our some guy that he was d4, dont remember why, he prob called out my elo or something. The worst offence was in game 2 where i called someone delusional. I dont even considered this a offence, the guy literally was delusional (he flamed me for his mistakes ) and i tried to point it out and further down and tried to explain to him why. I was on the border between being negative but it is important to note that i never harrased anyone who didnt show high level of toxicity towards me for no apparent reason like in those games. I only argued back with toxic players, tried to reason with them. I never feed, i never intentionally fed nor afked and im at the 0.006% players that deserved to get permanently banned. I refuse to believe that. Yes i was banned previously, my last ban was also for a negative attitudes, and the ones before were for flaming. At the beginning indeed, i flamed people that verbally abused me. I had eye for an eye sort of mentality. But in 2 previous punishments that happened in a pretty wide span of time it was just for arguing with players that flamed me. Meanwhile in every other game im being flamed, trolled, taken hostage in champ select - just pick one. How is that system fair?

24 Comments

RallerenP3 votes

Yup. You constantly berate your teammates and keep asking for reports.

The 14 day ban you got explained that you would get permabanned if you kept being negative.

SudokuSuweren2 votes

As i wrote i didnt berate my teammates, i was berated and i argued back against it. Also, i asked for reports when game was over (literally about to end). In one case when some guy straight up ran it down mid, which i dont consider negative by me.

  • You are kinda missing my point.

Sorry for my english in advance.

AraMoOse3 votes

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As i wrote i didnt berate my teammates, i was berated and i argued back against it. Also, i asked for reports when game was over (literally about to end). In one case when some guy straight up ran it down mid, which i dont consider negative by me.

  • You are kinda missing my point.

Sorry for my english in advance.

You are the one missing the point here : You are not punished for the actions of others. You are punished for your own actions. The chatlogs you provided show YOU harassing and bitching at your teammates repeatedly.

Please stop threatening to report people and stop asking for others to report. The report function is a shield to protect you, it is NOT a stick for you to whack people with. If someone does something you don't like, REPORT THEM. Don't say you will report them, don't ask others to report them, just REPORT THEM.

Chermorg6 votes

Your argument kinda boils down to “I wasn’t berating them, I was just berating them back”. It doesn’t matter who started it, you participated and thus were as much at fault as they were.

captaincomando11 votes

You again?Do you ever get tired?Leave people alone.Do not bother them with your judgments

Odd Gnome1 votes

That's like...Literally his job.

captaincomando11 votes

To judge others? His job is to express his opinion not to judge

AraMoOse2 votes

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To judge others? His job is to express his opinion not to judge

I have a feeling language is not your strongest subject...

captaincomando11 votes

yeah you are right.English is not my main language.Why is that important?

AraMoOse1 votes

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yeah you are right.English is not my main language.Why is that important?

Because the two words you use are essentially synonyms in the context you are using them.

The Cream Reaper2 votes

you don't know what the point of a Riot Arbiter is, do you?

captaincomando11 votes

The point is to judge players who come with problem ...???

The Cream Reaper1 votes

nobody judged you! just because your opinion clashes with the rules does not mean that you're a victim :P

captaincomando11 votes

it does mean if rules are not righteous...And it is one thing to explain what are the rules,and completely different to Judge people based on those rules... But i bet you cant see difference

The Cream Reaper1 votes

your mental gymnastics are most amusing

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

captaincomando11 votes

I knew it would be to hard for you to understand

Kaptain Kuddles1 votes

From what I can read from your chat logs. You openly threw insults back at your entire team. In one game you even said "report entire team unpleasant to play with".

Are your references to D4 calling the other players bad? Those fill half of your chat log. While you don't cuss, you harass your team and even if they were harassing you, it will get you in trouble. When you trigger a 14 day ban you are considered on your final warning. ANY positive report can trigger the perma ban.

I'm sorry that you were banned, but I can honestly see why and if you can't see that you literally typed pages of chat that almost had nothing to do with the actual game and more just talk about how bad your team is or how much they are 'griefing' you then I'm not sure you're going to hear a response you actually like on these boards.

Examples of poor sportsmanship from logs:

" why u bm reksai ur d4 player Malza was better "

" d4 players cause ur d4? d4 d4 "

" stop being d4 stop throw report blitzcrank after "

" stop throw u just bad thats the reason "

" better mid wins d4 jungler "

"delusional d4 player better jungler will win for sure "

" just report her "

" bad laners im just better "

" better laners won all i can say all 3 laners got smacked ... spam ganks win game cuz bad laners are bad "

You continuously show a poor attitude towards your teammates, telling them they are bad while you could be master if you really wanted. Doesn't matter if it's true, it's rude and isn't focused on the game. Literally just walls of text explaining how everyone is "d4" and your team is bad. You usually requested your entire team be reported in 2 of the 3 games listed.

Sometimes it's not everyone else who has the problem.

Good luck in your future endeavors.

SudokuSuweren1 votes

Kinda missing my point also. As i said im not asking for validation. I know those logs were borderline toxic and i shouldnt even argue back. The problem is that every other game im verbally abused, even in high elo. And i still see those players unpunished. Meanwhile im at the 0.06% of most toxic players in the game where my biggest offence is negative attitude. As i pointed out im not even counting the times i was taken hostage in champ select, int feed by someone or trolled. And as i also said, that happened in over half of the games from level 1 to 27 and i never got a response about punishin anyone. How does this sytem works? I heard one report can make your account suspended but i dont see that happening to others but me.

Kaptain Kuddles1 votes

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Kinda missing my point also. As i said im not asking for validation. I know those logs were borderline toxic and i shouldnt even argue back. The problem is that every other game im verbally abused, even in high elo. And i still see those players unpunished. Meanwhile im at the 0.06% of most toxic players in the game where my biggest offence is negative attitude. As i pointed out im not even counting the times i was taken hostage in champ select, int feed by someone or trolled. And as i also said, that happened in over half of the games from level 1 to 27 and i never got a response about punishin anyone. How does this sytem works? I heard one report can make your account suspended but i dont see that happening to others but me.

Without being able to see the logs of anyone who was in your game it will be hard to give you a fair answer that really fulfills that question.

The minute you start trying to 'defend' yourself or saying things back you make it hard for the system to detect who is actually being toxic. The only person in the game you can directly control is yourself. I think you're trying to look at the situation objectively, you just need to try and see the different perspectives that exist. While yes, you may feel victimized and that nothing is being done, all you can do is report and hopefully justice is served. Yet when you actively participate, they may feel the exact same way you do and do the exact same thing - report and hope justice is served.

I've been held hostage at champ select, had a jungler afk farm to 150 cs 0/0/0 only to finish 2/1/0 200 cs and half our team barely had 150 and we got smashed. I've had games where people literally just went 1/10 and kept running down mid. I've been called countless names, poked, prodded and baited and all I can say is don't give in to the trolls.

I've come back from chat restrictions and - if memory serves correct - an actual ban back in 2014 (I could be wrong, kind of wish there was a way to check account history) and I'm not Honor 5 with no restrictions and I enjoy playing the game for the most part.

Yes, it sucks doing the right thing, even when you shouldn't have to but DAMN does it feel nice when someone tries to troll and you peg them with a report that gets instant feedback. I'll take that feeling over EVERY last line of vehement hate text I could spew out at the trolls.

Never. Feed. Trolls.

I hope this helps answer your question a little better.

Arammus1 votes

like you said it in a comment of yours below "i was arguing back". basically... if you have nothing nice to say and you wanna keep your account after a 14 day ban then shut up and dont say anything.

YerroFever1 votes

"Defending myself" is a common excuse people use to harass and flame someone you believe harassed and flamed you.

Remember that you are judged on your behavior and they are judged on their behavior.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

You repeatedly used another player's rank to belittle them and dismiss their opinions.

Defending yourself is holding up a shield when somebody pulls a sword on you. Pulling your own sword and trying to stab them back is not defending yourself.

MadViking1 votes

Honestly the best thing you can do in league chat is to not just say anything when flamed, and mute everyone.

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