Do not care to win in ranked! (advice)

glockbox··2 votes·1,868 views

If you give any effort in Ranked you will be banned. Do not type and tell your teammate that you need to group because thats a reportable offense. This game isn't designed for competitive play (unless you are challenger with a stream of 4k+ viewers, only then u can be blatant toxic) since they permaban anyone who gets reported for not camping a lane. So further notice you can avoid getting banned by following these simple steps:

  1. Dont type.
  2. Int feed.
  3. say gg at the end.

^ If you intentionally feed but do not type, you can avoid a ban! But if you tell your team to group or to stop dying that warrants a perma! I will now be making a new account and int feeding every ranked game to prove this. You're welcome riot I found a glitch in your tribunal system. (*BTW this is sarcasm just incase another Riot robot reads this)

In Korea the "toxicity" level is higher but the ban rate is lower. Why is that? Hmm maybe NA has very soft skin? Please be gentle with NA players they will report you for not surrendering. And if u typed at all you will get permabanned.

Fun fact: Get in a premade duo or trio and go report 1 innocent player. Riot's tribunal will ban because if u dont gank for the duo you are obviously worth getting permabanned.

tl;dr Can we get the human tribunal back. When humans used to look over the tribunal you actually got an answer to what the actual problem is. This permaban robot they have in place will take any curse words even if it was something like "oh sh*t" or " fuck" and use it in the report if you got reported. People abuse this system, stop putting robots in place for judging permabans only humans should be able to look over a permaban

22 Comments

P4ppino5 votes

Toxicity =/= being competitive

Arisha the Dark3 votes

I like how toxic people trying to justify themselves with "oh, you have soft skin", without realising that by coming here to whine about their "unjust" bans, they show how soft their skin is, you just need to know where to hit.

glockbox1 votes

Wrong. I never been banned in ANY game since birth except this game. And its mainly because there isnt a human reviewing the reports. So before you get on your Riot bandwagon just settle in the facts of the robot report system being easy to manipulate

Arisha the Dark3 votes

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Wrong. I never been banned in ANY game since birth except this game. And its mainly because there isnt a human reviewing the reports. So before you get on your Riot bandwagon just settle in the facts of the robot report system being easy to manipulate

Most games don't care if players are toxic, that's the reason. This game is a rare example of a game that actually doesn't want players to be toxic.

glockbox1 votes

Have you played league? You really think thius game doesn't want toxic people? Have you played ranked? This game is the most toxic game of 2018

Arisha the Dark3 votes

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Have you played league? You really think thius game doesn't want toxic people? Have you played ranked? This game is the most toxic game of 2018

Have you lived under a rock? Crime exists, doesn't mean people want it. Ofc there is toxicity in this game, far from worst I've seen in games, but a lot. But having toxic players and doing something about them are 2 different things.

glockbox1 votes

No man. If you want to use the crime analogy, then this game would be considered detroit. Go search for facts You play in EUNE so we can't relate people are probably nicer. But in NA you will probably cry yourself off the game. This is definitely the most toxic game go look for yourself

Player3Th0mas2 votes

No man. If you want to use the crime analogy, then this game would be considered detroit.

Still doesn't mean people want crime to be in detroit. And the cops want to do something about it. So it was a good analogy actually.

You play in EUNE so we can't relate people are probably nicer.

EUNE is considered the most toxic region by players. And EUW after that. At least from the Western servers. NA is kindergarten compared to EU.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

I don't see how thats a valid comparison at all. People who get permabanned lose a ton of invested time, and possibly money, along with certain things that can never be earned ever again. What does a sensitive player lose from being called "bad"? Nothing.

Arisha the Dark2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VvivIgws,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-04-26T09:00:45.957+0000)

I don't see how thats a valid comparison at all. People who get permabanned lose a ton of invested time, and possibly money, along with certain things that can never be earned ever again. What does a sensitive player lose from being called "bad"? Nothing.

This is a free to play game, you investing both time and money your own choice as it is to break rules. Being offended is not a choice, you can't just say "I won't be offended anymore!" and just stop being offended.

Unker1392 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VvivIgws,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-04-26T09:00:45.957+0000)

I don't see how thats a valid comparison at all. People who get permabanned lose a ton of invested time, and possibly money, along with certain things that can never be earned ever again. What does a sensitive player lose from being called "bad"? Nothing.

What do you gain by calling them bad? Nothing.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

That doesn't have anything to do with the original point. Sensitivity can be measured relative to what is lost. Its way more reasonable and understandable for people to be upset over being banned, where something is actually lost. Getting upset over a random person on the Internet calling you "bad" is not even remotely comparable.

Umbral Regent3 votes

If you give any effort in Ranked you will be banned. Do not type and tell your teammate that you need to group because thats a reportable offense. This game isn't designed for competitive play (unless you are challenger with a stream of 4k+ viewers, only then u can be blatant toxic) since they permaban anyone who gets reported for not camping a lane.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong.

You don't get punished for giving effort, you don't get punished for asking teammates to group, you don't get punished for not camping a lane, and, hey, didn't a streamer get punished recently for being toxic?

So further notice you can avoid getting banned by following these simple steps:

  1. Dont type.
  2. Int feed.
  3. say gg at the end.

Did you know that encouraging other players to break the rules is in and of itself against the rules? Check this out - from the Terms of Use, Section 5, Article 1, Subsection XIV.

5.1. Can I troll, flame, threaten or harass people while using the Riot Services? (No. If you do, you might get banned.) While using the Riot Services, you must comply with all laws, rules and regulations in the jurisdiction in which you reside. You must also comply with certain additional rules that govern your use of the Riot Services (the “Code of Conduct”). The Code of Conduct is not meant to be exhaustive, and we reserve the right to modify it at any time, as well as take appropriate disciplinary measures including account termination and deletion to protect the integrity and spirit of the Riot Services, regardless of whether a specific behavior is listed in the policy as inappropriate. In addition to the Code of Conduct, please review the Summoner’s Code for additional guidance on exemplary gameplay behavior.

The following are examples of behavior that warrant disciplinary measures:

xiv. Inducing or encouraging others to violate this Code of Conduct or the terms of this Agreement.


^ If you intentionally feed but do not type, you can avoid a ban!

Wrong.

But if you tell your team to group or to stop dying that warrants a perma!

Again, you won't get punished for simply telling your team to group. Considering that just now you added "or to stop dying" - I'm going to guess you were punished for negativity and don't wanna share your chat logs - or acknowledge the parts that were over the line.

I will now be making a new account and int feeding every ranked game to prove this. You're welcome riot I found a glitch in your tribunal system.

You'll get banned, and nothing you intended to prove will be proven. As an aside, the Tribunal hasn't been around for four years. Riot uses the Instant Feedback System (IFS).

Fun fact: Get in a premade duo or trio and go report 1 innocent player. Riot's tribunal will ban because if u dont gank for the duo you are obviously worth getting permabanned.

Fun fact: Reports from premades don't mean jack shit if you don't break the rules. Three player's reports have the exact same weight as one report - all they do is flag the match for the IFS to review, and nothing more. If the IFS doesn't see any punishable behavior, the reports are disregarded and you go on your merry way without a punishment.

tl;dr Can we get the human tribunal back.

No.

When humans used to look over the tribunal you actually got an answer to what the actual problem is.

Doesn't exactly matter too awful much when that answer is exactly the same as the one the IFS gives, but the difference being the Tribunal's answer comes out months late.

This permaban robot they have in place will take any curse words even if it was something like "oh sh*t" or " fuck" and use it in the report if you got reported.

Again: Wrong. The IFS won't simply ban you for cursing. I curse frequently, and I have yet to be so much as chat restricted. You can curse all you want, but you can't level curses at other players.

People abuse this system, stop putting robots in place for judging permabans only humans should be able to look over a permaban

The only "abuse" I can imagine from the IFS is people deliberately going out of their way to bait people to break the rules. And that's a pretty rare occurrence.

Arisha the Dark1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VvivIgws,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-04-26T08:58:03.104+0000)

Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong.

You don't get punished for giving effort, you don't get punished for asking teammates to group, you don't get punished for not camping a lane, and, hey, didn't a streamer get punished recently for being toxic?

Did you know that encouraging other players to break the rules is in and of itself against the rules? Check this out - from the Terms of Use, Section 5, Article 1, Subsection XIV.


Wrong.

Again, you won't get punished for simply telling your team to group. Considering that just now you added "or to stop dying" - I'm going to guess you were punished for negativity and don't wanna share your chat logs - or acknowledge the parts that were over the line.

You'll get banned, and nothing you intended to prove will be proven. As an aside, the Tribunal hasn't been around for four years. Riot uses the Instant Feedback System (IFS).

Fun fact: Reports from premades don't mean jack shit if you don't break the rules. Three player's reports have the exact same weight as one report - all they do is flag the match for the IFS to review, and nothing more. If the IFS doesn't see any punishable behavior, the reports are disregarded and you go on your merry way without a punishment.

No.

Doesn't exactly matter too awful much when that answer is exactly the same as the one the IFS gives, but the difference being the Tribunal's answer comes out months late.

Again: Wrong. The IFS won't simply ban you for cursing. I curse frequently, and I have yet to be so much as chat restricted. You can curse all you want, but you can't level curses at other players.

The only "abuse" I can imagine from the IFS is people deliberately going out of their way to bait people to break the rules. And that's a pretty rare occurrence.

Another fun fact, in the days of Tribunal most people didn't even read chat logs, they just pressed punish, thinking that if person got into tribunal, it must be because they are toxic. IFS at least actually reads chat logs in every match in which person was reported.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

The IFS doesn't ban people for trolling/AFKing and only very rarely bans people for inting. Thats one clear advantage the Tribunal had over the current system. As far as chat related offenses go, the IFS is unquestionably more efficient, but that can't be said about anything outside of chat.

glockbox1 votes

I don't think you played ranked league before. So you are wrong. You can pull up rules and logs but the reality is I have int fed 6 games in a row on an alt to test the tribunal and I never been banned for it. But if you be toxic in one game u can get perma banned or 14 day'd. You can say wrong but i did a real test/experiment and it was true.

P.S. type longer paragraphs Riot might pay you to do this.

Arisha the Dark1 votes

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I don't think you played ranked league before. So you are wrong. You can pull up rules and logs but the reality is I have int fed 6 games in a row on an alt to test the tribunal and I never been banned for it. But if you be toxic in one game u can get perma banned or 14 day'd. You can say wrong but i did a real test/experiment and it was true.

P.S. type longer paragraphs Riot might pay you to do this.

But you said IFS bans people for no reason and now you bring up being toxic in just 1 match. So does it ban for just talking or for being toxic?

I guess you just proved that you are just mad for being banned. And ofc you won't post chat logs, because you know how toxic you are.

Umbral Regent2 votes

I don't think you played ranked league before. So you are wrong.

You can mouse over my screenname here on the boards and you'll see a little gold medallion showing that I've reached Gold V in Solo/Duo queue in Season 7, and I'm presently Gold V in Solo/Duo and Silver II in Flex 3's this season.

And even if I didn't play Ranked, that doesn't disqualify me from knowing how the system works. There's enough boards posts - especially those by Rioters - that I can learn pretty damn well how things work.

You can pull up rules and logs but the reality is I have int fed 6 games in a row on an alt to test the tribunal and I never been banned for it.

Congrats, you int fed 6 games 4+ years ago. That really only goes to show that the Tribunal you so readily vaunt is worse than the IFS.

But if you be toxic in one game u can get perma banned or 14 day'd.

Ahh, so, now it's no longer "tell your team to group", but it's "be toxic", huh?

The only way you can get permanently banned for being toxic is if you had some punishment beforehand, or if you were literally the most godsawful racist, homophobic, offensive human being on the face of the earth.

And likewise, you don't get 14-day banned unless you had prior punishment history, or decided to break Riot's zero-tolerance policy.

Either way, it's good to see you're finally opening up a little about the real reason for your punishment.

You can say wrong but i did a real test/experiment and it was true.

Again, inting during the time of the Tribunal isn't valid data when we're talking about the IFS.

P.S. type longer paragraphs Riot might pay you to do this.

I didn't know two to three sentences made long paragraphs, but, hey. If someday I'll get paid for it, I'm not apt to complain.

glockbox1 votes

No you can be racist. I got called the N word with the *er at the end put in a report and nothing happened. And when I say tribunal im talking about the "IFS" I forgot you have to be very specific with people who don't have the concept common sense or problem solving my bad. So it wasn't six years ago. A+ for effort you still are wrong though.

The Sword Saint2 votes

You're actually just flat out lying now. The IFS hands out 14 day bans and permas like candy to players who sue hate speech, suggest self harm, or engage in other zero tolerance chat behavior - and it happens withing minutes of the end of a game. We regularly get people coming to the player behavior board to complain for that exact reason - they said a zero tolerance phrase just one time and got banned instantly and they want to argue that it's not fair.

Not even going to give you the benefit of the doubt that the person you claim said that to you even existed at this point.

Umbral Regent1 votes

And when I say tribunal im talking about the "IFS" I forgot you have to be very specific with people who don't have the concept common sense or problem solving my bad.

Throwing about insults after you make a mistake in an attempt to cover it up isn't going to help you or your case. If you can't have a discussion without insulting other people, you can't have a discussion at all.

When you say "Tribunal", the only logical conclusion is that you mean the Tribunal. When you say "IFS", the only logical conclusion is that you mean the IFS. It's not a lack of common sense on my part, it's a typing error/miscommunication on yours.

So it wasn't six years ago. A+ for effort you still are wrong though.

I said 4+ years ago, as a generalization for the timeframe of when the Tribunal was active. I said 6 games because you said you intentionally fed 6 games during the Tribunal.

So, you keep saying I'm wrong for one reason or another (first it was that you assumed I don't play Ranked - which I do - now it's for no reason at all) - how exactly am I wrong? Because, if you can't say anything other than "you're wrong, I'm right", this thread will serve no purpose, and may even get closed by a Moderator.

Hyquiem1 votes

I like how he’s giving his reasons to ruin the game for new people. This is why he should b baned.

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