And why is the emblem still displayed in profiles?
Personally I use it to gauge whether or not the player is likely to tilt in a match. Especially with Clash around the corner, I'd like to have a general idea on how well a recruit will synergize with my team.
RiotRiot Tantram22 votesPersonally I use it to gauge whether or not the player is likely to tilt in a match.
This is why you cannot view other players' honor.
Shíny5 votesThen please remove it from other players profiles, it just leads to confusion.
RallerenP2 votesSorry but all you have to do is hover over it and it says 'Other players honors aren't displayed', it's not really that confusing.
It'd probably be alot of work for something so small :)
VaVoem1 votesbut... but... why do we have ribbons in loading screen that the enemy can see?? makes no sense
Sir Poodle2 votesBecause those only display for positive honor. And if you simply don't display it on profiles for low honor, that's kind of a give away. With the ribbons, if one isn't displayed, there's ambiguity whether they have low honor or simply didn't get honored last game. This ambiguity prevents judgement, while still congratulating high honor players.
love hurts most3 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VqeEn5lM,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-05-24T19:45:18.021+0000)
This is why you cannot view other players' honor.
I do kind of agree, but can you switch so you can see your friends “honors”
ΦmalphintoΦ2 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VqeEn5lM,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-05-24T19:45:18.021+0000)
This is why you cannot view other players' honor.
Dear Riot Tantram, for us, 'honored players' by showing us who is maybe gonna tilt in a match will lead us to better gaming experience by none easy-tilted players to play with.
in the other side, it will make a 'dis-honored' player to improve to get honors back, and to be friendly once again with the community.
This dis-honored players or 12345 levels of honor, they can still join other players, and they can still join each others.
just please make it clear to people so they can learn to be nice, and to avoid punishments in the future.
There is no shame if we are welling to learn from mistakes. right sir?
Kei1436 votesI actually think that the dishonorable will be picked on more and eventually tilt even more because of it. Afterall, people like to pick on the weakest link.
ΦmalphintoΦ1 votesI actually think that the dishonorable will be picked on more and eventually tilt even more because of it. Afterall, people like to pick on the weakest link.
then maybe Riot can edit the after game lobby screen to not shows players profile, and in match history after they leave lobby players can go to player profile to look on it.
That way no one is gonna pick on the weakest link. [slayer-jinx-wink]
Naymliss2 votesWhen I was climbing back in honors I have to deal with "honorable people" with flairs flaming me for any tiny mistake I made. I'm tired of the stigma that all people who are currently climbing up in honors are not friendly people. A lot of them are probably like me, who after dealing with being trolled by premades and flamed for multiple games in a short period of time we snapped and said something toxic back. We'll climb back up eventually, but that doesn't mean that we are lesser people during the climb, nor does it mean we are less friendly. Are a lot of people who are still low honor toxic? Sure. Are all? Hell no.
ΦmalphintoΦ1 votesWhen I was climbing back in honors I have to deal with "honorable people" with flairs flaming me for any tiny mistake I made. I'm tired of the stigma that all people who are currently climbing up in honors are not friendly people. A lot of them are probably like me, who after dealing with being trolled by premades and flamed for multiple games in a short period of time we snapped and said something toxic back. We'll climb back up eventually, but that doesn't mean that we are lesser people during the climb, nor does it mean we are less friendly. Are a lot of people who are still low honor toxic? Sure. Are all? Hell no.
they cannot see if you are climbing honor or not, only after game in lobby chat. i think that can be solved somehow so^^
It will probably appears after people leave the lobby, (after they did the report already). and they wouldn't know in game if you are climbing honor or not.
So i think its kinda clearing what i say. [slayer-jinx-wink]
Get Ogre Here2 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VqeEn5lM,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-05-24T19:45:18.021+0000)
This is why you cannot view other players' honor.
It's just a big eyesore, anything that is blank like that should not be displayed.
Arammus1 votesthats a weird logic... you hide honor levels because they could be used to tilt others... in that case you have to hide win/lose, match history, kda, elo and about everything else aswell
Umbral Regent1 votesHe didn't say that Honor Levels were hidden because they could be used to tilt others - he pointed out that they're hidden because of the OP's desire to figure out who on their team would be the most likely to tilt.
Let's put it like this: You get into a match, and you look up two of your teammates. One of them is Honor Level 1, and another is Honor 0. You don't know whether or not they're reforming, you just know that they, at one point or another, snapped, and got their Honor levels stripped.
Knowing this, you elect to dodge, as you'd rather not deal with people who you imagine tilt easily enough to warrant being below Honor Level 2.
See how that could be a bad thing?
Arammus1 votesmakes sense. but again. i could also look up a teammate and see he is on a 8 game losestreak. and most likely tilted. dodge.
or he has a winrate of 40% - dodge. or the champ he picked has a 20% winrate - dodge.
Aptest1 votesJust say it mate,
Riot is generally against players making informed decisions. Not just in player behavior. In picks and bans. In runes. In items. The thing you disapprove of, is the player making a choice, based on real information.
zPOOPz3 votesPersonally I use it to gauge whether or not the player is likely to tilt in a match
Same reason they don't show people's ping anymore I'd imagine
Butt Ρlug2 votesNo idea it might be to prevent shaming, riot also isn't able to give you information about another player's punishment or his account status, and the honor level can be related to previous punishment. ( basically if you're able to see that someone did go from honor 4 to 0 you know he got punished, which is someone you're not supposed to know. )
But really you won't get a general idea of someone until you played at least a few games together, and at least a few very bad games where the tilt probability is high. I sometimes duo with strangers, it often starts by a great game we did together and from that we might win a few other games, but from time to time one of those duo partners will get extremely toxic/mad and so on because a game isn't going in the good direction, it might not be the first bad game, but some people are really impacted by loss streaks.
Anyway, play with them, and more importantly play loosing streaks with them.
Modl Ryden l1 votesNo idea it might be to prevent shaming, riot also isn't able to give you information about another player's punishment or his account status, and the honor level can be related to previous punishment. ( basically if you're able to see that someone did go from honor 4 to 0 you know he got punished, which is someone you're not supposed to know. )
But really you won't get a general idea of someone until you played at least a few games together, and at least a few very bad games where the tilt probability is high. I sometimes duo with strangers, it often starts by a great game we did together and from that we might win a few other games, but from time to time one of those duo partners will get extremely toxic/mad and so on because a game isn't going in the good direction, it might not be the first bad game, but some people are really impacted by loss streaks.
Anyway, play with them, and more importantly play loosing streaks with them.
I can understand the shaming and I have come across a good handful of players who say they got denied a spot on a team is because recruiters looked at their op.gg and noticed a major loss streak and ranked MMR sink. However, of those players they also followed up with, "I lost because I had toxic players on my team." or that "I had feeders on my team." To me it shows that they're not necessarily losing because of those reasons but it's because they're not thinking about how they could have done better. And I'm not looking for players who are going to point fingers at each other.
Sona Ping2 votes"Why can't we view other players honor?" Because it is no one else's business.
"And why is the emblem still displayed in profiles?" The spot is. Because this satisfies the conditions with no work and no failure required.
"Personally I use it to gauge whether or not the player is likely to tilt in a match." That is not an effective strategy because tilt has nothing to do with that. People tend not to understand tilt (right, twitch chat?) and come to wrong ideas.
"Especially with Clash around the corner, I'd like to have a general idea on how well a recruit will synergize with my team." Sorry, but that's not something that is going to be numerically quantified without any interaction with the team
Edit: Cool, Tantram confirmed. +1 pt. for me.
Who Fed Ru1 votesYou should be able to see it from people in your friendlist, but not from everyone.
Else it would just be camp the honor level 0 every game.
As for Clash, I believe you have to be Honor Level 2 anyway to play.
Modl Ryden l1 votes[{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VqeEn5lM,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-24T18:59:33.836+0000)
You should be able to see it from people in your friendlist, but not from everyone.
Else it would just be camp the honor level 0 every game.
As for Clash, I believe you have to be Honor Level 2 anyway to play.
The screenshot was posted was a profile from my friendlist. However I didn't really play with this guy until yesterday, even though he had been on list for years now. I think from the 5 games we've played I think I saw an Honor 4 crest on his border when loading into a match.
But I really believe that honor is indicative of how players respond to negative situations. Whether it's tilt, silently keeping to themselves, or noise. Some players will also turn the negative situation into a replay and think about what we can do better for the next objective or will make plans to come back from an Ace.
Another concern for the minimum requirement is that some players will strictly maintain Honor Level 2 for the sake of keeping rewards and privileges. Essentially, only doing the bare minimum. Sometimes they're smurfs looking for opportunities to win prizes, their honor may meet the requirement, but that could also mean that they had been banned or punished on a separate account.
I'm looking for players who will go above and beyond. A bit ambitious I'm sure but I do hope you all understand where I'm coming from.
Best Vi Earth1 votesits the same reason why we cant view everyone elses ping.