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why did i get banned

SkyReaper559··2 votes·2,205 views

i dont understand why i got banned i got off a chat restrction then this happens i dont understand the last game i played my jungle banns my support pick i didnt troll the game nor was i verbal he got the team to hate me and they all voted to report me my adc goes afk and says it myfalt after she was say the F word to my family and at me so much i dont understand what i did wrong...... or why i got the 14 day ban this is so unfiar someone please explain why i ggot a 14 day for this. Game 1 is the last game i played where the jungle Twitch banned my support pick

Game 1 SkyReaper559: gl hf SkyReaper559: im not jungle SkyReaper559: im sup SkyReaper559: im go bot SkyReaper559: omw bot SkyReaper559: still has it SkyReaper559: woah the verbal SkyReaper559: chill dude SkyReaper559: i didnt ban my sup SkyReaper559: dont blame me for twitch banning my char SkyReaper559: dude i didnt ban morg SkyReaper559: twitch banned my support SkyReaper559: why are you flaming me SkyReaper559: for him banning my char? SkyReaper559: i dont understand SkyReaper559: i did nothing wrong SkyReaper559: he trolld me and banned my char for support SkyReaper559: shen live SkyReaper559: we dont have adc SkyReaper559: im here SkyReaper559: helpiong the team SkyReaper559: and he banned my sup SkyReaper559: now u know who the troll is SkyReaper559: can you guys report sivir plz afk at spawn SkyReaper559: ok SkyReaper559: twitch be quite u trolled me at champ select for banning my sup SkyReaper559: ima report u aswell twitch SkyReaper559: you banned my champ at select SkyReaper559: .... SkyReaper559: rofl i did nothing u banned my sup and trolled me SkyReaper559: i never said a bad word while uuall flamed me SkyReaper559: this team is toxic Game 2 SkyReaper559: what season do you think this is ziggs? SkyReaper559: why not SkyReaper559: you are trolling us SkyReaper559: hard SkyReaper559: prob cuz u want to go ziggs bot SkyReaper559: report ziggs plz SkyReaper559: trolling and wonders why he lost the last few gmaes SkyReaper559: im on a winning streak of 5 games SkyReaper559: lol SkyReaper559: nice lee SkyReaper559: ... SkyReaper559: gg SkyReaper559: what are you doing SkyReaper559: kid SkyReaper559: you just let her aa u for 70% of your life for no reason SkyReaper559: ap bot lane ftw SkyReaper559: ap ziggs bot ftw SkyReaper559: vote yes get us out SkyReaper559: lol says the bot lane ziggs we asked you to adc SkyReaper559: ziggs SkyReaper559: yup SkyReaper559: ziggs is the troll SkyReaper559: and hes trying to blame me SkyReaper559: trolling and hes toxic SkyReaper559: told u who the troll is SkyReaper559: im not trollin SkyReaper559: lol SkyReaper559: we need the ad SkyReaper559: yeah it shows how much u been telling us the bad words SkyReaper559: i never said any bad words Game 3 SkyReaper559: this cait SkyReaper559: sucks SkyReaper559: bs i almost killed their sup SkyReaper559: and u just let me die SkyReaper559: while their adc saved their sup SkyReaper559: with a heal SkyReaper559: no u ran from me SkyReaper559: if u want i can SkyReaper559: il make out w SkyReaper559: if u talk more shit SkyReaper559: gg bot SkyReaper559: ima go mid SkyReaper559: this cait just let me die does not even try helping SkyReaper559: gimmie gimmie SkyReaper559: humm dont go in on a sup SkyReaper559: just if i land on adc SkyReaper559: or someone other than sup SkyReaper559: why go that way SkyReaper559: lol SkyReaper559: somoen ward SkyReaper559: im not SkyReaper559: till i see 5 red wards SkyReaper559: ill buy a sight stone SkyReaper559: till then nope SkyReaper559: ima go bot lane SkyReaper559: and split SkyReaper559: noone wants to grp SkyReaper559: ? SkyReaper559: how was that my falt SkyReaper559: u went in and died SkyReaper559: we have no tank SkyReaper559: lol SkyReaper559: and u blame me SkyReaper559: rofl SkyReaper559: toxic ww

22 Comments

Beas7ie4 votes

First game wasn't too bad though whether or not the Twitch was trolling, you're still better off not arguing with him.

The second game you spent almost the entire time berating and calling for reports on Ziggs. I don't know if he was trolling, or just playing off meta. Either way, constantly berating and insulting him is not the smart thing to do.

Third game starts out with.

SkyReaper559: this cait SkyReaper559: sucks

I didn't read the rest of the logs from that game.

Keep in mind this is your LAST WARNING as the next punishment even just a 10 game chat restriction gets escalated to a permaban.

Do NOT insult your team. Don't argue with "trolls". You don't need to "defend yourself" if someone is flaming you. Don't berate people if they get wonky builds or are just not playing that great. And do NOT spam for reports. It's not needed. Just report them. Multiple reports don't "stack" or add "more weight". One report in a game is the same as 9.

Pantheon Forever1 votes

Top 3 reasons:

  1. "can you guys report sivir plz afk at spawn"
  2. " ima report u aswell twitch"
  3. "report ziggs plz"

honorable mentions: "this team is toxic" "toxic ww" " this cait ... sucks"

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

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Top 3 reasons:

  1. "can you guys report sivir plz afk at spawn"
  2. " ima report u aswell twitch"
  3. "report ziggs plz"

honorable mentions: "this team is toxic" "toxic ww" " this cait ... sucks"

Seriously, getting banned for asking that someone be reported? Are you serious... I get that it's against their rules but come the fuck on.

We are talking potentially hundreds of dollars for what, being the victim of abuse and childish behavior?

Pantheon Forever2 votes

I have all the good behavior icons going back all the way to 2012 including the most recent batch of 5 icons for ribbons. I say this because in 5000+ games I have been told I'm reported and trashed talked by more than 5000 players (2-3 players per game average). Is there not a point where a positive player (top 10%) can be justifiably offended by a constant barrage of players who want to get me banned because they are mad personally about something that's not against the rules?

A constant chanting of ban this player for "X" is quite disrupting to me and anyone else not involved in the conversation but stuck in the match. Ban "fishing" is against the rules and far more offensive than curse words. Someone could curse me out all day and I wouldn't bat an eye, but just 1 comment about taking my hard earned $ and time by banning my account really grinds my gears.

"We are talking potentially hundreds of dollars for what, being the victim of abuse and childish behavior?"

Threatening bans is (potentially hundreds of dollars) and (abuse and childish behavior).

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

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I have all the good behavior icons going back all the way to 2012 including the most recent batch of 5 icons for ribbons. I say this because in 5000+ games I have been told I'm reported and trashed talked by more than 5000 players (2-3 players per game average). Is there not a point where a positive player (top 10%) can be justifiably offended by a constant barrage of players who want to get me banned because they are mad personally about something that's not against the rules?

A constant chanting of ban this player for "X" is quite disrupting to me and anyone else not involved in the conversation but stuck in the match. Ban "fishing" is against the rules and far more offensive than curse words. Someone could curse me out all day and I wouldn't bat an eye, but just 1 comment about taking my hard earned $ and time by banning my account really grinds my gears.

"We are talking potentially hundreds of dollars for what, being the victim of abuse and childish behavior?"

Threatening bans is (potentially hundreds of dollars) and (abuse and childish behavior).

The difference is, asking for reports, is not asking for bans.

Asking for reports is annoying, sure; but so is 90% of other shit summoners do.

If you get reported and it's a fished rage report, you don't get punished so your hard earned dollars aren't in jeopardy unless you're doing something wrong.

HOWEVER

From what we see in this instance, this guy is the victim of abuse and merely asks that the perps be reported. They are probably abusive in team chat, and he is asking in all chat. Another brilliant idea of that stupid %%%% Lyte.

The whole reason they stopped showing the whole chat log and only the player in question, is to make them look as guilty possible, because it's in their best interest to ban players.

Most comments will be viewed as toxic when all context is removed.

Riot Lyte and his stupid IFS should rot in hell, its an incredibly biased system designed to make someone look as guilty as they can.

ModPeriscope1 votes

It's more so because he's asking for reports in 2/3 games. Asking for reports is at best neutral, and at worst harassing.

Telephone Booth1 votes

You get that it's against the rules, yet you still claim you were punished for being the victim of abuse and childish behavior? Stop being so bias just because it happened to you. You're not special. You explained that what you did is against the rules, yet completely ignore it and change your story one sentence later.

EvilDustMan1 votes

I love that ziggs bot became a thing, I always suspected it would.

SkyReaper5591 votes

buy why a 14 day ban i never got banned before and only had 1 chat restriction of 25 games why the hash punishment

YerroFever3 votes

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buy why a 14 day ban i never got banned before and only had 1 chat restriction of 25 games why the hash punishment

after a 25 game chat restriction, a 14 day punishment is the next level.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ-#h1q2

Telephone Booth1 votes

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buy why a 14 day ban i never got banned before and only had 1 chat restriction of 25 games why the hash punishment

Because that's the next step in punishments. Careful, next one is perma. Stop talking to people. Only say neutral/positive things if you must use chat.

BubblyRainbows1 votes

All you do is relentlessly point out everyone's mistakes, threaten to report (which is considered bullying), ask others to report (also bullying) and generally bring absolutely nothing positive to the game as far as chat goes. You got banned because the next step after a 25 game chat restriction is a 14 day ban if your negative behavior continues. For the next several months, if you are negative like this again and end up getting further reports, you will be permabanned. That's how their system works.

rtbf497575081 votes

All accounts will eventually be permabanned. No amount of "Positive thinking" or "good behavior" is good enough for Riot's impossible standard.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Really? You don't see? Take yourself out of the situation. Don't be bias, and look at game 2 and tell me the person in that log isn't a negative fuck. I dare you! Lol. Sorry to joke, I know you're probably frustrated.

Anyways, ziggs adc still works :P I love it. Don't accuse people of trolling for playing off meta shit.

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Telephone Booth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VGJuTFE8,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-09-20T05:29:39.882+0000)

Really? You don't see? Take yourself out of the situation. Don't be bias, and look at game 2 and tell me the person in that log isn't a negative fuck. I dare you! Lol. Sorry to joke, I know you're probably frustrated.

Anyways, ziggs adc still works :P I love it. Don't accuse people of trolling for playing off meta shit.

Do you understand the reason the legal system has judges? We could very easily change the legal system to run similarly to the IFS, and save millions of dollars in the process.

Every detail matters in a case, especially when deciding how severe the punishment should be.

According to Riot Lyte's IFS, this guy is just as bad as someone spamming "kys" all match every match.

Sure, he is a negative whinge and report fishing is against the rules, but does it really deserve the same punishment as someone spewing the most toxic shit they can think of?

Get a reality check.

Riot make money from permabans, that is why they are so happy to give them out.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Dudes first line is "I don't understand why I got banned" and then lists chat logs full of negativity and antagonizing bullshit, and I'M THE ONE who needs the reality check. Alright man I'll go check reality. See what's up in the real world. Might help me understand I guess.

He wasn't permabanned, and he probably would have gotten a chat restrict if he hadn't already had one before. Riot tries to prevent you from getting your account permabanned by giving you lesser punishments first, sort of as a warning.

Unfortunately, thousands of players complain about toxicity in this game, and as I'm sure you've heard before, this is known as one of the most toxic communities in gaming. So Riot probably feels they have to do something drastic to change that perception, like permabanning habitual offenders. That's just my opinion on the matter.

I don't agree with it, but I try to look at all sides and understand things logically. It's like keeping an open mind... open yourself to all possibilities. It may very well be that they are "happy" to permaban players because they make money off of it, but I try to find the logic behind that and it's just not there for me. I would think getting permabanned would make you spiteful and you would never spend money on the game again if you feel they unjustly banned your account.

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

You know I agree with you almost entirely.

He wasn't permabanned, and he probably would have gotten a chat restrict if he hadn't already had one before.

I fully agree with this kind of behavior being met with chat restrictions; In fact I think there are plenty of people who should be on them but aren't. However, I don't think that it should lead to an account being banned.

If a player behaves in a manner like this, give them CR10. If they continue, make it CR25. Then CR50. Then mute their account. Don't ban it.

Unfortunately, thousands of players complain about toxicity in this game, and as I'm sure you've heard before, this is known as one of the most toxic communities in gaming.

It isn't any worse than any other MOBA, excluding maybe HotS because chat is limited to team and scores aren't hugely relevant. In fact I would extend it even further, it is no worse than any major MMO game. Counter-strike, WoW, DotA are all just as toxic. It isn't the community of League that is toxic, it is the communtiy of online gamers.

Also, I would argue that it really isn't that bad, but when Riot listen to the crybaby part of the community, they get this warped idea that LoL is 100x more toxic than it actually is. Seasons ago, people would not have cared in the slightest about half the shit that goes on in the game, but now that there is this toxicity witch hunt, they feel obliged to identify everything as toxic.

If Riot came out and said that their war on toxicity has proven successful and toxicity is down 50% from 3 seasons go, the world would go back to not giving a shit and stop looking so hard for it.

May very well be that they are "happy" to permaban players because they make money off of it, but I try to find the logic behind that and it's just not there for me.

As for seeing the logic behind them making money from banning; it doesn't seem right, I know. "How could a company profit from denying consumers?"

Except, it doesn't deny the consumer, it merely takes back the items purchased. Imagine a company that sells any item.. lets say clothes. If you don't follow the exact washing procedure printed on the tag, the company has the right to take back the shirt without any compensation to the customer. Such is the way of online games, because of how the ToS are worded. Customer actually doesn't own the account or items on it. Thankfully countries like Australia are waking up to this bullshit and cracking down on the online marketplace.

On a different note, most people who are permanently banned don't quit the game. They just remake an account and re-level it within days. Not only does this pad out Riot's numbers, it also means that the new account is likely to repurchase items from previous accounts, and they are also likely to purchase XP boosts to get back to 30 ASAP.

If Riot wanted to stop toxicity like they claim, they would ban certain words/phrases and they would have permanent account mutes, rather than mindlessly banning players because of some stupid 3 strike rule.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Good points. Look I'll be real honest here... I kind of have to concede the argument because I know the real reason why I don't want a bunch of permamuted players, and it's a selfish reason that disregards people's problems with self control and not insulting people as a response to being insulted.

It's like I know that my reason is selfish because I myself am not offended by people talking shit in game. Idc. I have no risk of being punished because I don't respond in kind to flame. It's not that easy for others, apparently. I just don't care though. I'm a prick. I don't give a fuck about people who lower themselves to the level of people who flame them.

The reason is; it really sucks being the support for an adc who never says a word. I have no feel for what they're thinking. There's something about an adc with a good attitude that just makes the game all the more enjoyable, and gives you a little more synergy as a team. I don't want to play games full of mutes. Most of the time when no one on the team talks to eachother, I feel like they're losses more often than wins, because communication beyond pings gives a sense of synergy and teamwork. When everyone clicks and is on the same page, it's a beautiful thing. That never happens when there's players who just never chat. I know that's pretty anecdotal, but its just my honest opinion and feel on it. But as I said, it basically disregards everyone else, and it's like saying no, I want it this way because I just like it more! Nyah! ...so That's why I just gotta concede basically. You're right, but I don't like it, and I would prefer that they just learn the God damn rules and follow them, instead of games being full of permamuted players because they just can't learn to not talk shit.

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

Think about it.

Permanently muting/chat restricting players is the most logical solution, because it prevents/lessens their ability to be 'toxic', while still keeping them as customers.

Permanently banning a player from the game for saying "report XXX" is just stupid and would lose them an incredible amount money.. but it doesn't because the players just re-creates, re-levels and re-buys, because they have invested a lot of time and effort learning the game, they wouldn't want to waste time and relearn another.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Fair enough. We just disagree on the end. I've just seen too many people say "I'll never spend a dime on this game again" because of the permabans. But I do see your point, in the end.

Kaeblen1 votes

If two people argue, and one of the two is wrong, does that make the other right? No. It's completely possible for them to both be wrong.

The log from game 2 is bad. It should be judged on its own merits. Not on someone else's merits. That other person may be guilty too, but that really isn't relevant to the discussion.

RwoseTea1 votes

You shouldn't have been banned for this, I can understand where you are coming from, a friend of mine got permanently banned for saying something simliar to you.People report other players for some dumb reasons and honestly, Riot needs to fix this because more and more players won't return to League Of Legends because they were wrongfully banned from the whole game. I would email Riot but that didn't help my friend. Riot also needs to learn to follow how people should get banned not jumping straight to permanently banning a player. Your ADC should have been banned for going AFK, and your teammates should have gotten a 14-day ban too. Sorry, this happened to you, all I can say is Riot needs to work on fixing how people get banned. Some tips don't talk in chat unless its something nice or GGWP or GLHF. Try not to say things that get your teammates upset to the point they report you. And don't go around saying that player sucks, we all have bad games and start playing new champions.

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