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Instant FALSE suspension

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SO today i was perma suspended by riot, I was accused of botting and using third-party programs to level up. I have never used any type of scripts or any hacking things, don't know what else there is. WHY did they ban me?? My summoner name is zKushKush and there you can look at my recent game stats and whatever IDK. But the only thing i think of as a reason for banning me was yesterday i went 25-0-17 with Riven in Draft play. I didn't cheat I played a really bad Yasuo top, but it was realllly lucky. NOT A SCRIPT. i don't even know how to download or get a script. I'm fairly new to the game, I am a lowly Bronze 5 player and I'm just trying to get better. Is there a chance of them unbanning me? because i do have RP spent on the game and this is just so frustrating. I have submitted a ticket, so hopefully they respond to me quickly.

Edit: so an update to this is that they told me the reason of ban (general of course) was that i bought the account and that is was ranked up and sold to me. Is there a way to prove its mine and that i made it? I have the email verification from when i first made it, and i am currently waiting for a response from them about this.

33 Comments

AraMoOse6 votes

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. i don't even know how to download or get a script.

So this is where I start to have serious doubts about your story.

65381992_DEL1 votes

Because I know what a script is? I'm not like a super noob... just because i know of something doesn't mean I partake in those activities. Its fine if you don't want to believe my "story" because I'm not trying to appeal to you. I'm just looking for help on the matter, and i thought why not post in the league forums.

AraMoOse1 votes

No, because you claim that you don't know how to get a script.

65381992_DEL2 votes

Well I honestly don't.. i Assume its a program you buy and the program plays for you? I dont know. Im sure I could figure out how to get a script or program but that just takes the fun out of learning the game. Just search up my username on LOLking. Im pretty bad for a person who uses scripting.

CrazFight 1 votes

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Because I know what a script is? I'm not like a super noob... just because i know of something doesn't mean I partake in those activities. Its fine if you don't want to believe my "story" because I'm not trying to appeal to you. I'm just looking for help on the matter, and i thought why not post in the league forums.

And you got super defensive about it [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

65381992_DEL1 votes

And you're incriminating me on a true story, why can't I get defensive? I've spent some money, (30$) and "worked" hard to get those runes ect. I just dont want to my actual life to be wasted over a false suspension. I've never had any bans before not even a warning. Also, I dont know why I was banned so if i make another account then im potentially suspect for another false ban since i don't know what the problem is.

CrazFight 1 votes

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And you're incriminating me on a true story, why can't I get defensive? I've spent some money, (30$) and "worked" hard to get those runes ect. I just dont want to my actual life to be wasted over a false suspension. I've never had any bans before not even a warning. Also, I dont know why I was banned so if i make another account then im potentially suspect for another false ban since i don't know what the problem is.

Keep going , only helping my case. [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

65381992_DEL1 votes

At this point I just think you're trolling so ill leave you be. In the chance you do have something useful to say, please do. I would appreciate all tips in helping my situation :)

CrazFight 1 votes

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At this point I just think you're trolling so ill leave you be. In the chance you do have something useful to say, please do. I would appreciate all tips in helping my situation :)

Tip ~ Stop cheating by using third party programs. yw.

MonkeyMadness4 votes

I'm legit baffled by the overt abuse and downvoting here. Even if this guy is trolling (pretty sure he's not) JUST FUCKING LEAVE THE THREAD. Don't abuse him, don't downvote him, just leave. Christ, there's no wonder why this community is bar none the single most toxic one on the planet...

Sarutobi2 votes

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I'm legit baffled by the overt abuse and downvoting here. Even if this guy is trolling (pretty sure he's not) JUST FUCKING LEAVE THE THREAD. Don't abuse him, don't downvote him, just leave. Christ, there's no wonder why this community is bar none the single most toxic one on the planet...

If he is trolling then he has every right to get ridiculed about it. Im sorry but i cannot stand people who cheat in this type of game, and i have no doubt the people who actively use these types of programs, or the programmers themselves will try as much as they can to even get an ounce of information to try and make their programs undetectable. it would ruin this game even when we have a botting problem as it is.

This is the internet people will lie to get their way. But there are a few thing the TC says/write that sure makes it hard to believe. Like CrazFight states the people needed to write how they not only doesnt know what Scripting is, but doesnt know how to download it. In this day and age with Google this just screams lair. Anyone can google search something as simple as that, so there is no need to even state it. Then there is the fact the person needs to state that they arent good in the game which just brings out red flags. Obviously a "good" player wouldnt need scripts so by his own logic its working against him because he isnt a good player. Also you can have a bad score and still be hacking/scripting the game. Because anyone would try and cheat the system. So they could use it only in some games, or use it but not use it to its full potential.

Just this whole thread screams playing dumb, its annoying and if the TC is lying shouldnt ever come back to this game because it is something i think the community will agree doesnt want in any of there games!

MonkeyMadness3 votes

Half the people that get banned for this kind of stuff are using rather innocent programs (that aren't conferring any in-game advantage) or simply have some program that runs in the background that they don't even know about that gets flagged by Riot's bot. It doesn't sound like this guy is trolling, and even if he is, you CAN'T tell from his post so you have no justification in ripping him a new asshole like you are currently doing. If it's found that he is actually cheating, then by all means continue, but I honestly don't think he is, and there is no possible way to prove that this post is fake just from reading it.

Sarutobi1 votes

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Half the people that get banned for this kind of stuff are using rather innocent programs (that aren't conferring any in-game advantage) or simply have some program that runs in the background that they don't even know about that gets flagged by Riot's bot. It doesn't sound like this guy is trolling, and even if he is, you CAN'T tell from his post so you have no justification in ripping him a new asshole like you are currently doing. If it's found that he is actually cheating, then by all means continue, but I honestly don't think he is, and there is no possible way to prove that this post is fake just from reading it.

See the thing is if that's the case common sense tells you to talk to Riot via Support ticket. If you are innocent you will not get punished. But something had to have trigger the detection for this account to get punished. Yes things run in the background but people act really stood blaming things like Chrome, or even things like Windows 10 being the cause which makes zero sense. From my experience with people like this they fall under 3 categories. They cheated and are just trying to cheat the system claiming the are innocent (like this person is doing), people who bought an account which general means the account was botted to 30 and sold, or their account was compromised/hacked. The last one you can get your account back if you can prove it wasn't you on the account while the hacking/botting was happening.

It just gets tiring hearing the same excuses. It sounds like a broken record and just comes off as fake. I've been playing this game (and on this board) for close to 5-6 years. I've heard every excuse in the book and it just get you anywhere. Either show evidence or some way to prove you aren't hacking/scripting/botting/use of 3rd party program, and stop the lying. It's already hard enough to believe people on the Internet.

MonkeyMadness1 votes

You clearly have 0 experience with Riot support. As someone who has had extensive experience with them in the past, I can tell you that it fkin sucks. They will ALWAYS respond with a bot, and the only way to get an actual person is to just keep responding. This can take literally weeks to get through, and when you do, the person you end up talking to either doesn't read your ticket or is just some dumbfuck that literally can't read the messages you are sending, as they literally don't answer the questions you ask. Look up any forum thread where someone tries to figure out why they were banned and you'll see what I mean.

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They cheated and are just trying to cheat the system claiming the are innocent (like this person is doing)

So much for innocent until proven guilty...You literally have 0 context from which to draw this conclusion. Perhaps OP is cheating. Perhaps he is simply using a program that runs in the background. My friend has a program that changes his mouse icon, because his monitor is actually too high res for this game and renders the little hand so small he has trouble seeing it. Is this cheating? Absolutely not, but Riot's system will probably autoflag it if they catch him.

Sarutobi1 votes

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You clearly have 0 experience with Riot support. As someone who has had extensive experience with them in the past, I can tell you that it fkin sucks. They will ALWAYS respond with a bot, and the only way to get an actual person is to just keep responding. This can take literally weeks to get through, and when you do, the person you end up talking to either doesn't read your ticket or is just some dumbfuck that literally can't read the messages you are sending, as they literally don't answer the questions you ask. Look up any forum thread where someone tries to figure out why they were banned and you'll see what I mean.

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So much for innocent until proven guilty...You literally have 0 context from which to draw this conclusion. Perhaps OP is cheating. Perhaps he is simply using a program that runs in the background. My friend has a program that changes his mouse icon, because his monitor is actually too high res for this game and renders the little hand so small he has trouble seeing it. Is this cheating? Absolutely not, but Riot's system will probably autoflag it if they catch him.

Ive dealt with Riot Support before. Not to the extent of this, but ive dealt with them nonetheless. There is just some things that can be dealt with easily. With hackers they take ample time to confirm about the report. Hence why they only ban hackers in Waves. And when they do these ban waves im sure they get dozens of ticket stating they did nothing wrong. Now couple that with possibly people asking what exactly what caused the problem or getting any type of leverage to get into Riot system you would want to make copy/paste response because those types of people are a joke to work with.

Why people assume Riot will outright state what Program caused the problem is just baffling. Its like you want them to just give out any information they have and now we are forced to get more hackers in this game than we already have. Use some common sense. Like i said time and time again people are going to lie to get their way. With the TC thread in my mind its what its coming off as, since ive been on these boards for a long time and i basically read things like this daily. it just starts getting sad because these types of people have no morals and will cheat and try to get away with it any way they can.

Now can i honestly say this person is cheating? No, and no one can really unless TC himself says he does. Now obviously anyone wouldnt deny it, but i wouldnt believe every single person who says they were wrongfully ban. thats not right to believe every single person especially on the internet. thats how people get scam.

As for your last paragraph im going to assume you have no clue how programs works, let alone Riot detection. Seeing how you can change a Mouse from the mouse setting on your computer, Riot's detection wouldnt see that as it would be on the computer already. Now if it was a different program you are running and continue to run while league is running as well would be a different story, but then that would be pretty stupid as you are just putting more stress on your computer by having numerous programs running all at the same time!

All in all im just saying that post like this with a grain of salt. Like in real life im not going to believe every single person who comes up saying they were wrongfully ban. If they are i would tell them to contact Riot Support. Yes it does suck that you need to wait and keep contacting them, but thats mainly due to people who abuse the Report system and try to cheat the system. Give them as much information as you can and they will help you. But you are out of luck if you did cheat and try their detection caught something. Riot gains nothing by just banning random people for no reason!

MonkeyMadness1 votes

Clearly you don't understand the program I'm talking about...Look up YoloMouse, then tell me I have no clue.

Nik Nikerson1 votes

He did get banned, so one could use that as context to draw the conclusion that he was cheating.

MonkeyMadness1 votes

Did you even read my example?

Nik Nikerson1 votes

You mean the one about your friend who hasn't been banned for anything? Yeah I did.

MonkeyMadness1 votes

Well maybe you read, but clearly you didn't understand. Check out YoloMouse. It's a program that alters the mouse icon in game. Technically, this is using a 3rd party program to alter LoL, but anyone that calls this cheating is just being butthurt. Point is, OP could be using something like this (either knowingly or unknowingly) and it got flagged.

I've also read a post where a player downloaded 3rd party software that Riot eventually deemed "illegal", so they warned him that he would be banned if he didn't remove the software. He uninstalled it, and was banned anyways. After a while of talking to Riot about it, it appears that uninstalling the program didn't work properly and it was still detectable, even though the player didn't have the ability to consciously use it. Riot actually told him that he had to reinstall windows in order to solve the problem. Point here is that Riot is clearly a bit overzealous with some of these cases.

Nik Nikerson1 votes

No I did understand it. You friend runs a program and HASN'T been banned for it. If he had been punished for it, then you would have a point.

MonkeyMadness1 votes

correction: hasn't been banned YET. I'm sure when riot learns of this they will start banning people for using it solely because they can. They have a tendency to be spiteful like that...like when they banned Curse Voice for having jungle spawn timers, but then added jungle spawn timers like 2 months later.

Nik Nikerson1 votes

No correction needed. My statement was accurate. It doesn't matter what you think Riot's system will probably, maybe, might possibly do some time in the future.

MonkeyMadness1 votes

It also doesn't matter. You are harassing a guy that you don't even know about some imagined offense he may/may not have committed. If it's discovered that this is a troll post then by all means, lay into him. But until then, operate under the assumptions that he's laid out for you or get out.

Nik Nikerson1 votes

I'm not harassing the guy at all. I haven't said anything to him.

Scary Door2 votes

{quoted} Then there is the fact the person needs to state that they arent good in the game which just brings out red flags. Obviously a "good" player wouldnt need scripts so by his own logic its working against him because he isnt a good player. Also you can have a bad score and still be hacking/scripting the game. Because anyone would try and cheat the system. So they could use it only in some games, or use it but not use it to its full potential.

Just this whole thread screams playing dumb, its annoying and if the TC is lying shouldnt ever come back to this game because it is something i think the community will agree doesnt want in any of there games!

A vast majority of the players that are banned for cheating are higher Elo, Plat+. Most cheaters aren't going to run the risk of a ban simply to play possum and stay in Bronze/Silver. Not saying that there aren't low Elo players that cheat, but if you look at the history of those that have been banned here, they are generally /high Elo/, since Plat+ is the upper 10% I'd call that high Elo.

The account in question could have been compromised, maybe it's a false positive or, sure, maybe he did cheat or otherwise violated the ToU, but you don't actually know for certain. The likelihood is that he DID cheat, but if you think any system is flawless then think again.

Looking at his match history... it seems pretty clean to me. He goes negative in nearly every ranked game, poor CS, if he is cheating he's doing it terribly. Looking at the account's normal games, yeah, he dominates with Riven usually, that's it. Every other champion that he plays garners scores that are typically negative with generally poor CS. Of course I can't say definitively that this isn't a cheater, but it passes the eye-test which is a lot more than I can say for most of the people that claim innocence.

Sarutobi1 votes

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A vast majority of the players that are banned for cheating are higher Elo, Plat+. Most cheaters aren't going to run the risk of a ban simply to play possum and stay in Bronze/Silver. Not saying that there aren't low Elo players that cheat, but if you look at the history of those that have been banned here, they are generally /high Elo/, since Plat+ is the upper 10% I'd call that high Elo.

The account in question could have been compromised, maybe it's a false positive or, sure, maybe he did cheat or otherwise violated the ToU, but you don't actually know for certain. The likelihood is that he DID cheat, but if you think any system is flawless then think again.

Looking at his match history... it seems pretty clean to me. He goes negative in nearly every ranked game, poor CS, if he is cheating he's doing it terribly. Looking at the account's normal games, yeah, he dominates with Riven usually, that's it. Every other champion that he plays garners scores that are typically negative with generally poor CS. Of course I can't say definitively that this isn't a cheater, but it passes the eye-test which is a lot more than I can say for most of the people that claim innocence.

I've never said the system was flawless, no one is, but when ever they do ban waves and these cheaters do get ban they are the first to come here making every excuse in the book that they did nothing wrong. And yes we have no prove, but Riot does and they have a good reason not to release that type of information even to the accused. But like I said when these ban waves happen people will make up every excuse that they don't know what hacking is, or they never did it and yet somehow the system caught them with something. It's just hard to believe that every single person who got ban from this is all innocent. There is a reason why you don't trust everything you hear on the Internet, it's because can and will lie even when they know they are wrong.

Kindred Lamär1 votes

This is so crazy, I think you were the only person who believed that I wasn't scripting smh. playing this game for a year made me realize how toxic this community can be but I'm glad that there people like you who aren't always quick to judge. Looking back on this anyone who thought I was scripting was just there to add insult to injury. I do agree that when I said I don't know how to get script was bit of a fib, but hell I didn't even understand the game. Anyway man best of wishes to you, just wanted to let you know I appreciate the small thing you did for me.

MonkeyMadness1 votes

Ya my experience with Riot support is that it's 100% shit. You will have to keep responding to their support bot until eventually they put you through to a behavioral analyst. But be very prepared for stock/bot responses about how your behavior is not in line with the summoner's code. This is the automated response to any support ticket for stuff like this, and you will need to keep bumping it until you get an actual person. And even then, I've heard it's a pain to contest a ban for 3rd party programs, because Riot is intentionally non-transparent with these issues, so as to protect their security measures against such hacking.

Just keep trying with support and keep posting here and requesting a Rioter to check it out. It should eventually get cleared up. gl.

65381992_DEL1 votes

Ok thanks for your help, ill keep that in mind. Is there a way to get like a Riot Admin to check out my problem, as soon as possible?

MeilinII1 votes

In my experience, 90% of people on this board with those bans didn't get banned for scripting, they got banned for sharing their account and the other person scripted. Ever let anyone else play on your account?

65381992_DEL1 votes

Nope, just me on this account, I just don't understand what led them to believe that I was scripting. My gameplays are not the best, nor is my KDA.

Friendly Ram1 votes

just send in a support ticket, low chance of nabbing a red here.

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