what i love about riot games is how money hungry they are, they legit ban you for 14 days but allow you to sign onto your account, you can't play but you're surely able to purchase fucking rp still and buy stuff can't even use the practice tool while banned which is idiotic as shit.
Umbral Regent6 voteswhat i love about riot games is how money hungry they are, they legit ban you for 14 days but allow you to sign onto your account, you can't play but you're surely able to purchase fucking rp still and buy stuff can't even use the practice tool while banned which is idiotic as shit.
Because the only thing the Client has is the Store. /s
Sarcasm aside, there are other features that Riot probably would at least allow you to occupy yourself with; Profile, Collection, etc. - Collection in particular would generally be something they'd leave open, just in case in the 14-days you're banned you find some builds you want to try.
I'm not sure if Friends/Chat feature are still active while you're 14-day banned, but in the case that they are, they probably would expect players to want to tell their friends why they wouldn't be able to play for a while.
rising against1 votesyour friendliest is disable while you're under a 14 day ban, you know what i mean and you probably agree with me that riot just wants peoples money, if they cared about their community and it's die hard fans, people wouldn't be getting banned for toxicity, that should just perma mute them pretty simple don't take away their account they spent time and money on that's just cruel and if you get a 14 day ban at least let the player use the practice tool or a custom game so they can practice while they're undergoing a ban not just allow the store to be open where you can blow more money on the game.
Umbral Regent3 votesyour friendliest is disable while you're under a 14 day ban...
Mh, that sucks.
...you know what i mean and you probably agree with me that riot just wants peoples money...
I know what you mean, but I don't agree.
...if they cared about their community and it's die hard fans, people wouldn't be getting banned for toxicity, that should just perma mute them pretty simple don't take away their account they spent time and money on that's just cruel...
Well, firstly, permamutes wouldn't work. Indefinitely-scaling chat restrictions didn't work, so flat out removing a person's ability to chat would fare no better.
Secondly, "die hard fans" and "toxic players" are not concepts that blend together well. If you're a die-hard fan, you'd likely obey the rules and not be toxic, since, ideally, you'd want to play the game for as long as it's around, instead of risking your account by being toxic.
Additionally, toxicity does nothing to help the game flourish, so being toxic is all but the opposite of being a die-hard fan.
And, lastly, the point of the permanent ban is to get detrimental players to leave the game. If they couldn't be bothered to adhere to the rules, then Riot doesn't want them playing their game at all, and they put such a heavy cost on repeated misbehavior in the hopes of discouraging those toxic, permabanned players from coming back.
...and if you get a 14 day ban at least let the player use the practice tool or a custom game so they can practice while they're undergoing a ban not just allow the store to be open where you can blow more money on the game.
The 14-day ban from playing the game wouldn't have much meaning if you could still play the game in any capacity in the interim.
That said, refer above; you still have access to your Profile and Collections Tab, and if I'm not mistaken, also Hextech Crafting. You can mess around with Rune/Item builds, figure out what you're going to do when you come back, maybe attend to any Hextech Chests or crafting that you've left aside, etc.
If you choose, out of all of those things, to use the Store to buy RP or make purchases, that's an entirely voluntary act, and consequently, the fault for any "wasted" money is on you, not on Riot.
rising against1 votesexplain to me how a perma mute wouldn't work? they couldn't talk in game at all, but they could still have use of pings, and if they noticeably inted a game then they get banned permanently
rujitra2 votesBecause it encourages them to int and increases the amount of it, and as you said it has to be noticed first which means at least one more game ruined.
rising against1 votesit wouldn't increase inting, inting is always going to be around because of trolls, but people who got muted for toxicity most likely wouldn't int because they most likely got perma muted for flaming teammates for trolling, inting, grieving or just down right being completely and utterly useless.
Umbral Regent3 votesIntentionally feeding and trolling are always going to be around, but it was proven that the indefinitely-scaling chat restrictions resulted in an uptick of trolls and feeders - because without chat, gameplay was their only means to harass their teams when they otherwise would've flamed.
rising against1 votesyou do realized majority of the people who are toxic are the people who are talking shit to players on their team trolling, grieving, inter or feeding.. that's what happened to me, people on my team trolling grieving or just blaming me for not ganking them, and trust me i've muted all before plenty of time but having to do that every single game is annoying. I shouldn't have to. plus you got the people who afk or leave games and i still take lp losses for no reason at all when you shouldn't get a lp loss if someone leaves on your team. i've been in my silver 2 placements 4 times now, and it always ends up being the same thing people grieving trying to surrender at 15 or doing nothing for the team at all.
Umbral Regent3 votesyou do realized majority of the people who are toxic are the people who are talking shit to players on their team trolling, grieving, inter or feeding...
I've seen a fair number of cases, and this supposed "majority" is hardly common, much less common enough to call "the majority".
...that's what happened to me, people on my team trolling grieving or just blaming me for not ganking them...
Your anecdote is noted, but it doesn't reinforce the assertion of the majority of toxicity being directed at players who troll or intentionally feed.
(Bear in mind, "feeding" and "intentionally feeding" are two different things, and while there's no justification for flaming any of those scenarios, there's negative justification for flaming someone who's simply getting their ass beat.)
...and trust me i've muted all before plenty of time but having to do that every single game is annoying. I shouldn't have to.
Nobody ever said doing the right thing would be fun. And, no; you shouldn't have to mute people. But you shouldn't respond to them with toxicity, either.
...plus you got the people who afk or leave games and i still take lp losses for no reason at all when you shouldn't get a lp loss if someone leaves on your team.
For starters, you don't ever lose LP for no reason. You lose LP when your team loses the match.
Second; making it so that players get what amounts to "Loss Prevented" in any case of an AFK would pretty much ruin the Ranked system, and encourage bullying or throw-away accounts to allow players to avoid losing LP from matches they deem to be losses.
rising against1 votesokay when you are winning the game then you support decides to go afk because of lag yes I lost lp for no reason just because of a player afking, like it's always two sides of every argument, it's not like i got right into a game and be like aye fuck all you guys. no I stay to myself, but then someone on my team starts talking shit to me, sure I could mute them or I just talk to them since this is sorta like a social experience. and just I might cuss saying fuck or fucking, shit bitch %%%%, in my sentence but i'm 24 just because i'm cussing in my sentence doesn't mean i'm verbally abusing someone by just cussing in a sentence when pretty much in every sentence I say in real life has a cuss word in it, now me saying go fuck yourself is toxic i take full blame for that, but making me lose because of stupidity I feel like i have every right to be angry at someone in the game should be able trash talk them, seeing they're ruining the game not just for me but for everyone else in the game on my team and on the other team because they probably wanted a legit game but can't get one because of trolls
ModPrandine4 votes[{quoted}](name=rising against,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=UuMi2VNA,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-06T00:28:35.825+0000)
it wouldn't increase inting, inting is always going to be around because of trolls, but people who got muted for toxicity most likely wouldn't int because they most likely got perma muted for flaming teammates for trolling, inting, grieving or just down right being completely and utterly useless.
From Riot Tantram:
It really breaks down into two categories.
1.) Helping players reform 2.) Shielding others from the behavior, at a cost.
We used to issue chat restrictions that essentially scaled indefinitely.
We were able to determine that after a certain point the penalty no longer helped with reform. The 10-game and 25-game counts for chat restrictions are based on data that they were both light enough, and felt strict enough to encourage people to understand their behavior is unacceptable in game and change it.
We also saw that the players in this 'large restriction' category defaulted to gameplay altering means of harassing their team. It caused an increase in feeding and trolling.
The sample size of this population and time frame is huge. Essentially the time spanning from the introduction of chat restrictions to the introduction of IFS.
So my question for you is, would you rather have more feeders and less negative chat?
This was just with infinite chat restrictions, so imagine how much worse it would be with actual perma-mutes.
Bottom line: If someone isn't gonna behave properly despite being given multiple chances to do so then why shouldn't they be removed from the game?
rising against1 voteswell see if that would be the case just group the trolls feeders and the toxic players all together and group the people who enjoy the game and want to get better at the game in their own group. people are always going to have bad games but i've people feed their asses off all early game but mid game they came back because they didn't give up but then you got the people who just feed early game and say fuck it this games over with and doesn't help the team anymore. also, you mean the automated system ya'll have that basically goes off mass report on one person. I know this because i've had this account since 2015, and it's never had any chat restriction until I started playing ranked and my teams were just down right dookie some times it was my fault but holy shit.
Ritoslostfkboy2 votesRIOT TRASH CAN GAMES FOR YOU MY MAN.
rising against1 votesamen brother riot fucking games for you, it's all pay to win. i've legit have bought a skin and guess what i get put on a winning streak. game is complete dookie butter. not to mention that some of the skins particle effects if some champions such an advantage its dumb, they legit make the projectile so fucking small but the hit box is still big as shit, some of them you can't even see in a team fight which is extra gay.
Telephone Booth1 votesYou can buy RP still on a banned account? Lol.
rising against1 votesyes on a 14 day banned account not a perma ban account because when you click I understand it closes the client
Ritoslostfkboy1 votesI up-voted you man but look at this toxic community hard to help you man
rising against2 votestrue, this community is toxic as hell, there isn't anything to do to help this community they think banning people for toxicity in game is the cause when in realilty its riots fault not getting rid of the trolls. inters, wintraders and feeders, and the ranking system is complete dookie where you'll have an adc do 13k damage in a 36 minute game because they don't do shit but try and surrender because their not having fun and don't care about trying to clime or get better at the game, that just doesn't go for adc's it goes for every lane in league people legit grief after the first blood and say oh it's over ff at 15 and shit like how the hell am i supposed to act calmly to that when they basically giving up and throwing away the game that's still winnable. it's annoying when all you wanna do it better yourself at the game you love and get to a higher elo. but i can't because i get banned because i get frustrated at my teammates because it's always the same shit with this game you can try your hardest as you want,. 1 person can't win a game but 1 person and surely throw the game or ruin the shit out of it.
Imperial Pandaa1 votesMaybe so even people who are banned can access something that might be limited time/release?
Not being able to use practice tool? That creates a game server and you aren't allowed on one during a 14 day ban.
rising against2 votesyeah money greedy ass company, if they're so toxic where they get banned they shouldn't have access to limited time shop items, but nope riot wants you to spend money on the game. and you create a server to practice at the game, people don't join into the practice tool, just have sorely for one person so they can practice combos and attempt to better themselves at the game
Imperial Pandaa2 votesIt is just one of many ways that servers function. It also becomes a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation by preventing people from buying limited edition stuff. Also, is it them being greedy or the consumer being stupid? They probably assumed if someone was punished they wouldn't buy shit. So why waste the time and potentially cause bugs to block it?
Block all Game server access is better for the health of the game than all but one. The only way to potentially handle it would be lock all other modes while banned. Much like the game modes were locked behind levels.