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I have been permanently banned

JoeyFromFriends··6 votes·3,163 views

I have been permanently banned from league of legends. I want to express my concern for this community. I was flamed for 95% of that game, what did I say? (i use timestamps, so forgive me for not including them.) [top no f - top no ult - (v ping x2) care top tele - put a deep ward so i can tele - they are doing dragon.)

for about 35-40 minutes, the 4made party (thx dynamic queue) that i joined proceeded to deliberately feed bot lane, straight up running into the lane and feeding. what happens? of course they cyberbully the one guy not in the premade. what happens to the enemy team? well, as they see those 4 laughing it up in all chat, they join in. you now have 9 people upset with me. now, if you want to permanently ban me for having a bad game, that is not something i was aware of. i did not realize riot could do this. if you want to ban me for saying, "not really a gg, but ok." fine. i guess that's my penance for suffering through 40 minutes of verbal bukkake. if you want to ban me for challenging the opposing laner to a "1v1 for a skin" after the game? ok. where in the summoner's code does it say this is not allowed? where then, would i ask, are the bans for the other offenders?

have i received chat bans in the past? yeah. i have. i'm not going to lie. i'm not going to sit here with a perfect smile like a young kid that is pretending he didn't color with crayons on the walls. no. i'm an honest dude. chat bans though, shoot riot, i've been playing your game since season 1. season 1. o-o. if the permanent ban was coming, where is the 1 month ban? where is the deliberation to say, look man, see we gave you a chat ban in season 3. this means you can't ever make a mistake again. that's pretty hyphy riot. lol. did i get a 2 week ban before? yeah. what did i learn? don't let my roomate play on my account to try the game out. i accept full responsibility for these actions. i have smurf accounts that have seen zero punishment. the behavior on those accounts is no different.

so i'm curious. what banned me? where was my notice? where is the line? if 9 people gang up and report you, even though you played through, gritting your teeth... through afk-ers and feeders and flamers, etc... game in, game out.. that happened this particular game riot. yet i get a permanent ban.

i'm again, trying to be very clear, so i apologize if i am a little flustered.

i am confused. where is the line in the sand?

did this account, having had a chat ban or a 2 week ban in the past flag for a system stating "listen if in the next 20 years, this guy gets a ban 1 time, just delete him from the server."

is that how this is?

if that's the case, i'd like you to show it to me in the summoner's code. i'd also like for you to refund me the 100$ purchase i made within the last 24 hours. i'm not asking for refunds in any other capacity. i'm not asking for refunds dating to the dawn of the account... i enjoyed those purchases. i enjoyed playing those games. good & bad. seriously. SERIOUSLY. who would play a game since season 1, watch every lcs performance and support your content creators so faithfully than anyone other than a true fan. i've been playing since dota in wc3. this is the jam, dude. mobas are a blast, but i am just at a loss here.

if this ban is to stay, so be it. that's fine. absolutely fine. i have no qualms with this. i am not here to ask for a lift on the ban or to haggle with you on the account. personally, i don't want it if this is how you feel. we're in agreement. i no longer need to play your game.

what i'm asking for is a refund of the day's purchases. return it to the card. the system in place to escalate bans from chat ban to permaban is beyond me. that's cool, i guess. i can't really battle a big name company.

know that with this permaban, i will discontinue playing my smurf accounts. with a tip of my hat, i bid you farewell riot. i have had a lot of fun, but there are a lot of problems you are facing here that seem to be snowballing out of your control. apparently, out of mine as well. lol. /shrug

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good luck NA - i will be passing on the LCS competitions from here on out. hopefully we can work something out with the refund. otherwise, i will take up genuine legal action. i will be dropping my other lvl 30 / ranked accounts as well.

sincerely yours, -concerned long time advocateitem 3070 item 3070

41 Comments

Sarutobi8 votes

I think it would be better to try and contact Support. Because honestly at least from how i am reading it, something just isn't adding up. Like others have said Punishment doesnt stay on your record, at least not that long. Either you arent remembering other bans/punishment you recently had. Or you were just that toxic in chat that you just got bump to a permaban. Like i said in my previous post this would all be clear if we see your chatlogs. Are you able to get into your email that is associated with the ban League account? Because that should have all the proof you need as to why you were ban. If not then as i said in the beginning Contact Support as they will have the right resources to help you. We are just like every other forum user.

Sarutobi6 votes

Bans work in a tier list now. usually going 2 chat restrictions, and a 14 day ban, to Permanent. You can skip a tier depending on how severe your chat was. So seeing how you had Chat restrictions in the past it would be obvious that some sort of ban was coming. To be fair we have no evidence of what you said which could all come clear with your chat logs had you actually post them. You should have gotten one when you logged in (notifying you of your ban) and an email which could have 1-3 games worth of chat log. Seeing how you didn't receive a 14 day ban and went straight to perma, it seems like you probably use something like racist, or other derogatory slurs which have a zero tolerance here! Again all of this would be clear if you post your logs!

As for getting a refund its just not going to happen. I mean you could try suing them but i highly doubt it will go far. It seems to me that you probably didnt read the ToS or else you would know that One: The account isnt really yours, Two: You dont technically own the skins/champions you bought. It is basically a renting service. hence why you dont actually buy Skins/Champions right off the bad. You bought RP in which case you used that currency to "rent" the use of skins and champions. these are basically the normal ToS that any type of services use; EG: Steam, PSN, XboxLive, Nintendo, etc.

HaramJungler2 votes

i wasn't immediately permabanned. i played & played.. felt up to making a big purchase on this account in particular, having multiples (i mean i really dig this game, so this is no big deal normally. i value these purchases. i feel as though they were adequate, else i would not have made them) it's no surprise i am willing to drop 50-100 here or there on any various account if i feel it is lacking something after a weeks worth of matches & replay watching [try to watch my own replays in any competitive game i play]

i appreciate you pointing that clarification out, though, in the ToS i can't find the verbage specifically.

additionally, riot suddenly stopped me from posting on that account and i can only assume this one as well soon, which will lead to me jumping to another, so on and so forth until the conversation is concluded. -- what i am getting at, is that i played x games > made purchase within 10-24 hours > played more games > spent some of the RP > played more > was banned > chat logs pre-date purchase history. wut? what happened?

that's shady riot. lol. maybe the banning system is 100% automated? that's fine. ok, i get it. things happen. i was once terminated by a payroll system for accidentally working on my day off. if it says i deserve the ban, then fine. i have some issues with the community as a whole if that's the benchmark for what is "permaban worthy" but if we seriously skip that, i just want the money back that i spent after you decided you wanted to perma ban me. end.

Caffeine Pusher1 votes

If you made the purchases through PayPal in the last six months, you can get your money refunded hassle-free by simply contesting it via PayPal's system.

EndGamer111 votes

Incorrect. Since the transaction was not fraudulent, and the player received what they paid for (the RP), then Riot will not refund the money, and Paypal will not want to take a loss, and the claim will be ignored.

Humpelstilzche4 votes

so i'm curious. what banned me? where was my notice? where is the line?

Link your chatlogs and we can show you exactly where you crossed the line (in our opinion of course) and what you would have to change to avoid being punished.

did this account, having had a chat ban or a 2 week ban in the past flag for a system stating "listen if in the next 20 years, this guy gets a ban 1 time, just delete him from the server." is that how this is?

After your 2-week-ban you are on probation, which basically means that any further violation results in a permaban. However you don't hold this status for "the next 20 years". As a rule of thumb, 3 months of clean behavior will result in you dropping down one tier of punishment. So if you got a 2-week ban and behaved normally (i.e. no flame etc.) for 3 months, your next violation would be punished with another 2-week-ban instead of a permaban.

i'd also like for you to refund me the 100$ purchase i made within the last 24 hours.

I am not sure if that is legally possible, but if it is you should contact the Riot support asap.

Void Nargacuga3 votes

Its not refundable, unless it was done by mistake or if your account got hacked and your card info was stored on it.

Otherwise its not refundable since they got what they paid for. Which was the RP. Its in the TOS. Which I quoted in another comment.

Caffeine Pusher1 votes

This is an idiot child. Ignore them. You paid money for vanity items. They revoked the items you paid for. You're due a refund in any civil court.

FurriesAreHot3 votes

Actually, he paid for a lease to use the rp, and "Rent" the items and rp until the account's closure. He failed to hold the agreement of the game itself, and thus his account was terminated, revoking his lease

Astôlfo1 votes

When will you grow up and stop being such an idiot?

venomous frost2 votes

chat logs, nobody believes you.

HaramJungler5 votes

apparently i am not allowed to reply on that account anymore. this just further proves what i was originally typing. i don't want the ban lifted. not at all. no thank you. i want to know in the summoner's code, where it says a chat ban from w/e season immediately scales into a permaban. considering all of the toxic things experienced in about 40-50k games played total since season 1, having played with the same randoms by pure accidental "luck" and having them go unbanned. i'm just confused. you know?

also i had a very well written statement about this shady 100$ swindle riot pulled immediately before permabanning me, but hey, i guess if we can rig presidential elections, it's no surprise a company doesn't want to answer to it's customers.

tl;dr riot, i genuinely don't want it unbanned and i don't want any account unbanned ever and i don't want to play on any of my other accounts. i want to know why i was not warned before a permaban, where in your contract does it say that is acceptable & will you give me back the money i now feel you personally stole. having to repost this on a different account.

i can do this all day..

Void Nargacuga2 votes

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You also disregared the other warning that your behavior was not liked by the community, which you said you went through:

  1. 10 game chat restriction
  2. 25 game chat restriction
  3. 14 day ban

Your last warning was IN THE E-MAIL for the 14 day ban AND in the in-client reform cards. The 14 day ban is the last step before a permaban as well.

HaramJungler1 votes

@deepnami as well: a 14 day ban stretched between season 1 and season 6? over 45k~ games to give it a ballpark, that's the escalation? i hadn't realized that was the context. again, that's fine. if that's the way the cookie crumbles, so be it. what i really want, at the end of this, since my other questions have been answered, is where is the logic in allowing me to play > purchase > play > ban me for the games before my purchase. which leads me to believe it's a completely automated system and the particular game in question i was the solo queue into a 4made and i played poorly, admittedly. they ganged up on me and the ban followed later. i saw the chat logs. if THAT is worthy of the ban and the ToS says so, "OK" is my answer as i can't really fight it. i guess i felt things were a little different.

EDIT: to whomever said my account wasn't banned from the boards, incorrect. i actually had to hop on one of my other accounts to keep posting immediately after this thread was made. to specify further i don't want any purchases before the banned games in the chat log refunded as i was down to make those purchases because league was worth buying into. just the purchases after the chat logs say i deserved punishment

Void Nargacuga3 votes

How would a 14 day ban be streatched between ALL 6 seasons? I just don't see that happening. PLUS it doesn't make sense.

HaramJungler1 votes

i feel that. lol. at this point, i just want to understand why riot is stealing my cool crisp benjamin lmao. i'm already calm and over the ban.

Void Nargacuga2 votes

They didn't steal shit. You paid for the RP by your own will and received said RP correct? Then they didn't steal it. You GAVE it to them.

HaramJungler1 votes

you agree that if you do something, then purchase something you feel will improve that something by the company that created it, then continue to do something - that company can then ban you for your first attempt, later, after you've paid them?

Void Nargacuga3 votes

What are you trying to say by that? Its completely confusing to read.

Or are you saying: I paid money so I should be treated differently? If this is what your trying to say? I've spent $955 on my only account, this is my only account, and I've only had it for about a year now. I don't expect to be treated differently then someone who doesn't spend a dime. I don't want privelages or protections just because I've spent money.

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

We are missing literally all context when you don't provide the email you should've received. You're preventing any discussion from being had. Game bans to not ban you from the boards; are you unable to log in or does it say you are banned, and why?

Caffeine Pusher1 votes

It literally doesn't matter to a judge if Riot wrote "we can steal from you" in their EULA. They can't. Stop typing.

Void Nargacuga2 votes

They didn't steal shit. You GAVE them the money by your own will. And received the RP. Good luck if you EVER try to take such a case to an actual court. Would love to hear the story of what happened.

Deep Terror Nami7 votes

Being banned from the game does not ban you from the boards.

Punishments go in 4 tiers; 10 game chat restriction, 25 chat, 14 day account ban, permaban.

It's possible to skip multiple tiers if you are being extremely toxic, such as using hate speech or making death threats. The warnings prior to your permaban were the previous punishments. The reform cards will have said that continued negative behavior may result in increased punishments (and at a 14 day ban that a permaban is next).

You should have received a reform card in your email, and presented with it upon logging into the account. Share that.

RogueWill2 votes

{quoted}

apparently i am not allowed to reply on that account anymore. this just further proves what i was originally typing. i don't want the ban lifted. not at all. no thank you. i want to know in the summoner's code, where it says a chat ban from w/e season immediately scales into a permaban. considering all of the toxic things experienced in about 40-50k games played total since season 1, having played with the same randoms by pure accidental "luck" and having them go unbanned. i'm just confused. you know?

also i had a very well written statement about this shady 100$ swindle riot pulled immediately before permabanning me, but hey, i guess if we can rig presidential elections, it's no surprise a company doesn't want to answer to it's customers.

tl;dr riot, i genuinely don't want it unbanned and i don't want any account unbanned ever and i don't want to play on any of my other accounts. i want to know why i was not warned before a permaban, where in your contract does it say that is acceptable & will you give me back the money i now feel you personally stole. having to repost this on a different account.

i can do this all day..

You signed the agreement and term and it says that Riot can ban your account for any reason or no reason at all.....

from the contract

E. Suspension/Termination. By Riot Games. RIOT GAMES RESERVES THE RIGHT TO SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY OR DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU, AND WITH NO LIABILITY OF ANY KIND TO YOU. Additionally, Riot Games may stop offering and/or supporting the Game at any time. For purposes of explanation and not limitation, most Account suspensions, terminations and/or deletions are the result of violation of this Agreement, the EULA, the Privacy Policy, or the Summoner’s Code (defined below). Accounts terminated by Riot Games shall not be reinstated under any conditions whatsoever.

and as for your money....

B. Game Assets, Riot Points and Virtual Items. When using the Game, you may accumulate in-Game assets associated with your Account, including, without limitation, objects, artifacts, currency, items, equipment, and/or other value or status indicators (“Game Assets”) that reside on servers operated by Riot Games as data. You acknowledge and agree that such Game Assets are accumulated as part of your Account and therefore you shall have no ownership or other property interest in any of those Game Assets. You further acknowledge and agree that Riot Games has the right, but not the obligation, to delete, alter, move, remove, or transfer any and all Game Assets, in whole or in part, at any time and for any reason, with or without notice to you, and with no liability of any kind to you. Riot Games does not provide or guarantee, and expressly disclaims any value, cash or otherwise, attributed to any data residing on servers operated by Riot Games, including without limitation the Game Assets associated with your Account

sooo.... you kinda hit agree into that so you are sorta screwed

HaramJungler2 votes

i feel like i should clarify, my name is Todd H. i am the OP. riot blocked the posting account now after i started this dialogue. the shortest way i can say it is that i played > purchased > played > banned > logs deeming the ban pre-date the purchase > can i have a refund because that seems shady. you don't need 100$ that bad, riot. if so, shame on you. completely. (the ban is fine. i don't want to be unbanned.)

dapositiveviking2 votes

chat logs

Kei1432 votes

Do it !! seek legal action !!

rito aint gonna refund you, so you must sue !

FurriesAreHot1 votes

they will always lose. you know why? they read and agreed to a tos which states no refunds*[slayer-jinx-wink]*

Kei1431 votes

that is precisely the point.

make them spend money on stupidity. just like how they feel they need to defend themselves.

themachamp1 votes

You can try to get your money back. I have heard of paypal refunding people's money before because they made a claim vs riot. AS far as paying with a debt/credit card......idk, If you got a pre-paid riot points card.....you are screwed =/

Void Nargacuga4 votes

Doubt it because you got what you paid for. Which is the RP. You didn't buy a skin or champion. You bought the RP which was given in full.

themachamp1 votes

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Doubt it because you got what you paid for. Which is the RP. You didn't buy a skin or champion. You bought the RP which was given in full.

You paid for access to RP, not the RP itself since it isn't a material object. Either way, the OP has nothing to lose by filing a complaint and hoping for the best.

Caffeine Pusher1 votes

Good luck with that song and dance in front of a judge! EleGiggle

Caffeine Pusher1 votes

If you feel this way, definitely contact your credit card company, explain Riot's fraudulent behavior, and ask for a chargeback. You'll almost certainly get it. Otherwise, you can take them to court, but if it's only one purchase, I think you are fortunate and can remedy your situation with much less hassle.

FurriesAreHot4 votes

he agreed to a ToS which clearly states no refunds, and you dont own ANYTHING on or in your account, taking them to court does nothing, you cant charge back, so no money*[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]*

BeatzBoyFTW4 votes

Pretty sure the court would just laugh at Op's face as he agreed to the Terms & Conditions without reading them.

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

Nice chat logs mate.

61939590DEL11 votes

Did anyone bother looking @ his match history of what he though he said in the end i wasn't true. 4 People feeding automatically doesn't look like it on his match history.

Corndog951 votes

fuck riot

SEKAI1 votes

{quoted}

fuck riot

Don't necro a 1-year-old thread.

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