sick of trolls

idontmainezed··0 votes·620 views

Im so tired of trolls in this game that riot does nothing about. I get into a game with a jarvan who autolocks and calls nothing. the team tells him he should supp since its what left. continous to say nothing. we get in game and he asks "who said i should support? yi?" (i was jungling as yi). he followed me around in jg taking camps/buffs and anything he could so i said screw it and went into lane. he follows me there intent feeding the lane i was in and griefing the team. And i gurantee you, riot will do nothing about it because alls they worry about is "verbal abuse" in which most cases people arent verbally abusing anyone. i left the match taking the leaverbuster because sitting in a lobby with him for 20 mintues isnt worth my time

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MeilinII4 votes

InB4 deleted for breaking board rules. Name and Shame is not allowed here.

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MasterSomething2 votes

Yea, so are you. Why are you here?

Erdrik4 votes

Submit a support ticket if you want to report from outside the game.

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MasterSomething2 votes

Then they get punished.

Erdrik2 votes

Well, assuming they actually did something punishable. But yea.

Sarutobi3 votes

The sad thing is that people like that will always be here. Just like in real life jerks/assholes are all over the place, and we cant usually do anything about it. But just report them and they will get caught. Coming on this board alone proves that what they are doing in that reporting people and them getting punish works. Its just not as fast as people would like. Which in itself might be too unrealistic.

Riot can only do so much to try and rid the place as much as they can from people ruining others game. But you need to remember that this game has millions of players playing at one time. I cant even think how many games are played daily, and im sure people get reported in a lot of those games daily.

idontmainezed1 votes

true, i guess there isnt much you can do especially with the people who are reporting people without reason. It is extremly frustrating thought to get into games like these where you're helpless against it and you can either waste 20 minutes of your life, if your team even agrees to ff at 20, or disconnect and take the punishment. i ended up recononecting near the end and didnt get punished but was a huge waste of time

Kim Chi Vendor1 votes

I feel as though the team wasn't reasonable expecting support Jarvan and he was justified in throwing the game.

MasterSomething2 votes

Throwing a game is never justified.

Kim Chi Vendor1 votes

It is if you go Jarvan and people don't give you a lane. Just don't talk don't feed excessively and the report won't be valid.

The Jarvan was right to throw, you wanted the lane so bad deal with it. Some people are like that gotta play around that or get your game wrecked. If someone jacks my lane I play something else unless I feel like the game should be ruined cause everyone in it is a dick.

MasterSomething1 votes

Throwing the game is never justified. No matter how pissed off you are, getting revenge doesn't solve anything but your own anger, and it causes four others to get angry. Not only is it a waste of time, it's also unproductive. It's never justified. Don't throw games.

Kim Chi Vendor1 votes

The Tribunal AI isn't that bright, that Jarvan can ruin your game without being detected by it even with reports. Not giving a Jarvan that will do this is dumb if you want a gg.

You're not being realistic and are speaking in platitudes.

MasterSomething1 votes

So basically you are encouraging trolling by calling it justified, which is the opposite of what RIOT wants, while I am demonizing it never calling it OK and you are calling me unrealistic? Alright then.

FurySK2 votes

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So basically you are encouraging trolling by calling it justified, which is the opposite of what RIOT wants, while I am demonizing it never calling it OK and you are calling me unrealistic? Alright then.

Unfortunately, trolling to get a reaction isn't something that gets addressed all that often. My guess is that of the group of people banned on a daily basis for language, something like 25-30% of them are people who have given a troll the business verbally, and that troll has reported them, and because they have broken summer code they are penalized for it. There are plenty who get banned (chat or otherwise) for good reason, but because they can't tell the difference between someone having a bad game and someone not interested in winning, the end result is that those people get weeded out at a significantly slower pace, and thats a lot of what causes the problems you see with the general population between Bronze V and Silver I.

MasterSomething1 votes

Yep. Wish it all we want, not everything can be done at a touch of a button. Things take time to do, and that's what I wish some people who come here would understand.

FurySK1 votes

No, but there can be more effort put into each case. It would exponentially inflate the time spent with the removal of toxicity, but it would more accurately portray what the root cause of frustration is. Rather than asking each person who gets trolled to ignore the person and play the game out, inevitably that just doesn't work because the player is unable to handle the griefing multiple times a day.

This is an important issue because it can erode a player base more rapidly than it otherwise would. I don't think it will get traction that it deserves because of the issue of time spent per removal of toxic player already. But it has already put an end to my spending of Riot Points because i know I'll eventually snap because of the amount of junk that happens in a normal game or ranked game. I've probably gotten reported a handful of times because i've gotten fed up, spaced out here and there over four years of playing ranked. I liked using unskilled player report a ton because it was an easy way for me to release frustration even if it didn't mean anything on the players record.

The key question I think needs to be answered when doing review of a player is what did the other player do or say in response. Did the player under review initiate, or did they respond to someone? Did they start with reasonable expectations, such as "play safer to reduce the amount of gold the other laner gets, it makes it easier for us to overcome a bad game" only to get told "shut up your bad"? Or did they start by trashing the player's skill level? The back and forth conversation when i did work on the old tribunal system told a TON of the story, and often impacted how i responded. There were many times where i wanted to actually punish the other player more than the player under review in certain games back in season 2 or so.

I'm rambling now on a post that isn't likely to gain too much notice from riot or anyone important, but it beats gets some of my pent up frustration out at least.

MasterSomething1 votes

Yea, it's a ramble. Thing is we cannot have nice things in this world. Way too much time for review and specifics, plus there is also testing and bug fixing. Also, the Tribunal, while it was good sometimes, there were assholes in it who just punished for the sake of punishing plus it was backed up incredibly. It proved to be flat out unreliable later on, sadly.

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