Can we make punishment more severe?

Aesaran··6 votes·4,071 views

I like this game, i really do but over and over i'm put with teammate that are just out to ruin the game for everyone else. This last game my lucian sat afk on spawn, buying daggers with the passive gold he earned. "Fine, ok..one troll. We can still do this" i thought... The whole team literally just turns into a flame fest, feeding, complaining and just overwhelming negativity. This is a regular issue as well as racism. You guys are fast to respond any time there is racism involved which is great and i wanted to give props where its due. As a whole though, the game is mostly a negative experience. Can we please do more to discourage the behavior? like crap talking is fine but the rest is just childish.

I know i can't be the only one who thinks people need to be punished more often or even banned permanently.

9 Comments

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I think they could definitely do better with how they treat intentional AFK's (atm it's just Leaver penalties), but trolling can be pretty hard to catch! I know the system falls embarrassingly short sometimes, but most trolling is pretty subtle and hard for even a manual review to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the actions were intentionally harmful to the team. The punishments are severe (14 day ban then permaban), the detection just isn't up to snuff sometimes, and we can all agree that they should be working hard to improve on that (I believe that is something they have people working on constantly).

It's definitely going to feel shitty sometimes, but most players really just want to play the game and enjoy it just like you. I hope the bad apples doing ruin the game for you and you can keep going on and playing the game around them to enjoy it. Make sure you report these people at the end of the game to help Riot track and punish the behavior, and also get information for improving their systems.

Antelath1 votes

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I think they could definitely do better with how they treat intentional AFK's (atm it's just Leaver penalties), but trolling can be pretty hard to catch! I know the system falls embarrassingly short sometimes, but most trolling is pretty subtle and hard for even a manual review to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the actions were intentionally harmful to the team. The punishments are severe (14 day ban then permaban), the detection just isn't up to snuff sometimes, and we can all agree that they should be working hard to improve on that (I believe that is something they have people working on constantly).

It's definitely going to feel shitty sometimes, but most players really just want to play the game and enjoy it just like you. I hope the bad apples doing ruin the game for you and you can keep going on and playing the game around them to enjoy it. Make sure you report these people at the end of the game to help Riot track and punish the behavior, and also get information for improving their systems.

How about, Instead of trying to make the Players fear you, Just idk give Sportsmanlike peops rewards?

BlazeDragon241 votes

The punishments and the criteria for toxicity needs to be more severe. I have had a set of ranked games since I have returned to League. It does not matter to me if you feed, but if you tried. I got some nasty players who refuse to cooperate, that's minor, to people downright flaming and feeding intentionally. Our team reported a Karma who was question if I was a girl player, or if I was Bronze, and complaining how I did not want to play (even though we were matched against a Braum and Xayah, which is scary if you get cc'd for 1 sec). Another one was a Rammus (d3 player) complaining OH you are retarded and bronze-like if you think Rammus should not get Thornmail (except that Ezreal went AP, Ornn is full tank, and the only person actually building AD is Jarvin). Another one is a Nocturn who is refusing to listen to me and 2 other nice players because a Taric complains that he is just trying to 1v1 a Top Udyr with Conqueror (making Udyr 10/2/0). Another one from the other day was a duo partner, Kogmaw, refusing to group and leading to a Jax and Yas (or Kayn I do not remember) to go 12/5/7 and wrecking the entire team.

Though the honor system is a cool feature that rewards good teamplay or cooperation or kindness in general, it does not make up for the fact that many toxic players still roam the system. Also it further just emphasizes the bad players since you are looking for people to upvote. Anyone can agree that people have bad days, but when people are either being racist, sexist, or downright destructive, it really hurts the community and overall gameplay. The funny thing is, the toxic people I have reported have not resulted in an indicator for punishment (even with their match history explaining they do poorly in most games indicating some struggle), it's kind of unfair they get to remain in game and be toxic.

YoNightmare71 votes

Ive received a 2 week ban in autumn 2017 for being toxic. I deserved the ban, altough I didn't say/do anything as atrocious as some other people.

I have been working on trying to be a better player by being more positive, helpful and focusing on myself rather than on others. I'm currently only honor level 1 3/3 after multiple months of grinding. I think most people who received a ban actually try to improve on their attitude, and making the bans (even more) severe would probably more discourage these players than anything else.

TheFingerpointer1 votes

its better then the varus supp i had that inted i said report him and then i get chat restricted lol are u fucken kidding me

Cycera1 votes

But here's the thing: a lot of people who deserve the punishments don't get them so you'd just be giving worse punishments to people who don't deserve it.

DBS Ronovon1 votes

No, more punishment is not going to fix anything, it will just make the game suck more than it already does. If you believe more punishments will make everything better, then please provide me with any evidence in games where this has happened at all. Thanks guy.

remakoro1 votes

You are the person ruining the game for everyone else.

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