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Reports? What For?

CelestialGrynn·12/1/2015, 4:17:45 AM·1 votes·350 views

This is just a bit of concern over the 4 notifications i've gotten in these passed 3 weeks... I've received a notification that i've been reported for "verbal abuse" in games that i've stayed silent until I say ONE sentence. This sentence is usually "how'd they all get fed?" or "why did you do that?". I'm not sure what exactly is abusive about asking questions like that in a team game where the most valuable resource is information. I'm not saying that i don't lose my cool, because I know i've gone off on someone one time or another, but the fact that you can be reported for anything, no matter how small, is concerning. With the tribunal being non-existent a friend of mine told me I should be seriously concerned with the reports. On average I've been a generally positive player in the 5 years i've been playing league. But all of a sudden this season people seem to be reporting me for what seems like normal questions a team should be asking each other and things as petty as "I'm not following your lead" When i get those odd elo heroes who claim to be a team's savior. With punishment (as far as i know) being based on how often you're reported...what can I do about the raging children in my games who report me for almost no reason? I've literally(as far as I know) never been reported in the past, but all of a sudden i've received four warnings. "We understand everyone gets frustrated sometimes" is the LAST thing I feel I should be reading after calmly stating "that ahri is fed, we need to focus her" or explaining to someone who is angrily blaming teammates for losses when it had nothing to do with them. It's just starting to feel like no one can say anything in a game unless it's stupid useless babble or "good job man" without offending someone. Part of me wants to blame the punishment system that people look to be abusing. Like using reports as threats to stop people from letting them know simple things, like when or where to ward, or whether or not to dive a tower...etc. I feel like people shouldn't have to be afraid to talk to one another in a game based on teamwork, and when everyone jumps to the worst conclusion because they have to read text in a voice they assume for the person who typed it everything seems to sound like an attack, because of this people jump to the 'he's being abusive' mindset when you say something like 'can we keep that brush warded?'.

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SmokedAlmonds12/1/2015, 8:02:50 AM3 votes

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This is just a bit of concern over the 4 notifications i've gotten in these passed 3 weeks... I've received a notification that i've been reported for "verbal abuse" in games that i've stayed silent until I say ONE sentence. This sentence is usually "how'd they all get fed?" or "why did you do that?". I'm not sure what exactly is abusive about asking questions like that in a team game where the most valuable resource is information. I'm not saying that i don't lose my cool, because I know i've gone off on someone one time or another, but the fact that you can be reported for anything, no matter how small, is concerning. With the tribunal being non-existent a friend of mine told me I should be seriously concerned with the reports. On average I've been a generally positive player in the 5 years i've been playing league. But all of a sudden this season people seem to be reporting me for what seems like normal questions a team should be asking each other and things as petty as "I'm not following your lead" When i get those odd elo heroes who claim to be a team's savior. With punishment (as far as i know) being based on how often you're reported...what can I do about the raging children in my games who report me for almost no reason? I've literally(as far as I know) never been reported in the past, but all of a sudden i've received four warnings. "We understand everyone gets frustrated sometimes" is the LAST thing I feel I should be reading after calmly stating "that ahri is fed, we need to focus her" or explaining to someone who is angrily blaming teammates for losses when it had nothing to do with them. It's just starting to feel like no one can say anything in a game unless it's stupid useless babble or "good job man" without offending someone. Part of me wants to blame the punishment system that people look to be abusing. Like using reports as threats to stop people from letting them know simple things, like when or where to ward, or whether or not to dive a tower...etc. I feel like people shouldn't have to be afraid to talk to one another in a game based on teamwork, and when everyone jumps to the worst conclusion because they have to read text in a voice they assume for the person who typed it everything seems to sound like an attack, because of this people jump to the 'he's being abusive' mindset when you say something like 'can we keep that brush warded?'.

Those warnings don't necessarily mean anything. They are based on a spike in being reported and based on reports before they are validated. Reports go through a validation process before they are used for a punishment though. If a report is deemed false it is discarded and the reporter's future reports lose value. The only thing getting reported does is trigger a review of the reported behavior, if the system finds nothing then nothing will come of it.

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Player behavior systems are not just based on reports. Even if a premade of 4 reported you, if the reports are false, you won't receive a penalty. All player behavior systems are backed by the Report System, which tries to validate every single report. If a report is false, the reporter loses "value" in his reports and the relevant player behavior system ignores the reports. If a report is accurate, the reporter gains "value" and his reports become more powerful. The current Reform System analyzes chat logs for negative behaviors, so it goes beyond just looking at false or accurate reports.

If your description of yourself is at all accurate I would say you have nothing to worry about. Just ignore them(or mute) and don't bring yourself down to their level. Also threatening to report someone is considered negative behavior and will contribute to someones punishment if you report them for it.

Lil Lewd Witch12/1/2015, 4:19:59 AM1 votes

We'd need to see actual chat. Because there's been times my calm "Shes fed" was "You fucking fed her"

CelestialGrynn12/1/2015, 4:36:26 AM1 votes

This doesn't even touch on the whole "if i just stay silent i get reported for not communicating" issue that's also there

Awkward Couch12/1/2015, 7:30:04 AM1 votes

  1. If you are just receiving warnings but you are staying silent in chat, you are fine. It's an automatic report generated by an algorithm. You can't be reported for not chatting so you don't have to worry about that.

  2. They are bringing the tribunal back, however all permabans are reviewed by a person before being executed.

  3. Most likely its players reporting everyone on their team because that particular person is salty. When the system sees that you haven't been chatting and therefore can't be toxic the person who reported you will start to lose weight in their reports.

TL;DR You really have nothing to worry about and they are bringing the tribunal back.