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Punished for my teammates being toxic?

wewuzkangz7··1 votes·1,014 views

Game 1 wewuzkangz7: your name though wewuzkangz7: YIKES wewuzkangz7: no wewuzkangz7: the racist uganda meme part wewuzkangz7: tryhard warwick wewuzkangz7: riven wewuzkangz7: wait riven did u not see me go on? wewuzkangz7: rivven wewuzkangz7: i flashed on thee ori wewuzkangz7: and u were csing... wewuzkangz7: "nevergetangry" wewuzkangz7: and you're doing bannable stuff wewuzkangz7: nice! XD wewuzkangz7: riven inting is bannablle wewuzkangz7: riven stoopo wewuzkangz7: dude im not stopping everything im doing to gank top wewuzkangz7: when ur trolling me wewuzkangz7: riven treat your teammates better if u want help wewuzkangz7: why do you expect me to help when you walked under turret and inted, and then blamed me? wewuzkangz7: ori did you see the riven die under ur turret on purpose? wewuzkangz7: oriana wewuzkangz7: orianna wewuzkangz7: did you see the riven int under ur turret? wewuzkangz7: how yasuo wewuzkangz7: riven is stealing my farm :/ wewuzkangz7: draven i was heading mid to help yas wewuzkangz7: i cant be everywhere at once wewuzkangz7: she already did wewuzkangz7: please report riven.. wewuzkangz7: intentionally feeding wewuzkangz7: ori how do you think you got first blood? wewuzkangz7: do you think the riven walked under turret for no reason? wewuzkangz7: stfu loser wewuzkangz7: not reportable wewuzkangz7: ori watch the replay please :D wewuzkangz7: you'll see the riven at about 3 minutes in walking under your turret on purpose, and she types in chat "im inting" wewuzkangz7: you're a troll if you don't think she should get reported for that wewuzkangz7: lol wewuzkangz7: thanks guys! wewuzkangz7: warwick wewuzkangz7: did my team really just back off and let you run straight to me? wewuzkangz7: how was i trolling? wewuzkangz7: how was i toxic? wewuzkangz7: no seriously wewuzkangz7: how was i toxic yasuo wewuzkangz7: dude thats not how evidence works wewuzkangz7: YOU have the burden of evidence wewuzkangz7: because YOU accused me wewuzkangz7: YASUO IS ACCUSING ME OF BEING TOXIC AND WANTS ME TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF WHY I WASNT TOXIC wewuzkangz7: THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS BUDDY wewuzkangz7: caps isnt toxic>?> wewuzkangz7: bro i know you REALLY want to be right, but you're WRONG. so STOP wewuzkangz7: you DONT get to accuse me without evidence wewuzkangz7: THAT'S TOXIC BRO wewuzkangz7: THAT wewuzkangz7: IS wewuzkangz7: TOXIC wewuzkangz7: YES wewuzkangz7: WW can u link ur main after this game? wewuzkangz7: how

Here's some context: Just a normal non-draft game, WW mirror. I get a leash on my blue, do wolves, and walk to my red. Enemy WW invaded. I walk top to kill their top orianna. Riven sits back and is CSing even after I flash and get my fear off. My red was down, and I'm super far behind now, so I tax riven a couple creeps. Riven then starts spam pinging orianna, and when I go back in we aren't able to kill her. Riven sits under orianna's turret and gives her first blood, and then LITERALLY TYPES: "I'm inting". Riven then spam pings me, steals camps, flames me in chat, etc, all while wanting ganks, which I obviously don't want to give her as she's shown lots of incompetence and that she doesn't respect me. By now I'm super far behind. I start trying to gank lanes, fail multiple times, and by this point the game is over. Riven is stealing all of my camps, and now yasuo has joined in on flaming me. He starts typing to the enemy that I've been toxic, when, as you can see in my early chat logs, I was NOT toxic. I made sure to tell the riven to be nice to me if she wanted ganks, and I tried multiple times to explain why a gank failed. At this point the enemy team is trolling in chat, saying that riven wasn't inting, and that I was just getting outplayed. When yasuo started accusing me I asked what evidence he had of me being toxic, and he said I was the person who needed to provide the evidence. Like wtf? that's not how the burden of proof works. You accuse someone, you have to provide evidence as to why your accusation is correct. And then he starts saying that me typing in caps is toxic, when I've literally seen posts from forum staff saying that it specifically is NOT bannable. Please explain how what I did was worth a chat restriction. Also, I'm yet to see the riven get punished for intentionally feeding and flaming me the entire game. Thanks :)

53 Comments

Imperial Pandaa6 votes

You weren't punished for their actions, only your own.

wewuzkangz71 votes

Yes, because people's actions have no impact on how you act. You are entirely in control of your emotions. Everyone is a perfect being who only ever gets angry when they can't control their feelings. Stop spreading this bullshit around. NOBODY is 100% in control of their emotions.

Umbral Regent3 votes

It'd also help if the people who couldn't control their emotions would stop spreading around the idea that those who don't get punished are 100% completely-in-control saints.

You are expected to have enough control over your emotions to not flame or lash out. If you don't, it's entirely possible that you will get punished for it.

wewuzkangz71 votes

those who don't get punished are 100% completely-in-control saints.

I'm doubtful that there's a single person in this game, excluding rioters, members that riot has a clear bias towards, and very new players, that hasn't gotten a SINGLE punishment.

AeroWaffle2 votes

I haven't received a single punishment.

wewuzkangz71 votes

Never played ranked 15 games this season lvl 33

AeroWaffle3 votes

I'm doubtful that there's a single person in this game, excluding rioters, members that riot has a clear bias towards, and very new players, that hasn't gotten a SINGLE punishment.

wewuzkangz71 votes

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AeroWaffle3 votes

It might surprise you that level 30 use to be the max. Strange, I know.

Been around since Season 1. So unless your qualifications of "new player" is someone who was around when Xin was released you have some strange criteria.

wewuzkangz71 votes

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Umbral Regent5 votes

What does their amount of matches played in this one season matter in determining if they're new? So what if he's played 15 games since the 2018 season began - he has many more from 2017, and likely greater numbers from the years prior.

AeroWaffle8 votes

Whew! Look at those goal-posts move!

Xidphel3 votes

I'd say the same thing to you.

Lyndris2 votes

I have been around since around mid season 2, I use chat regularly and have yet to get something other than a LB penalty. Yes, I have been hit by the Leaver Buster, but not the IFS. I point this out since you seem to be on the topic of toxicity and it's punishments.

wewuzkangz71 votes

So you HAVE been punished. Thanks for proving my point [slayer-jinx-catface] [slayer-jinx-catface] [slayer-jinx-catface] [slayer-jinx-catface] [slayer-jinx-catface]

Lyndris6 votes

I mean, one person getting a penalty isn't really proving anything... [slayer-jinx-unamused] My point was that it is quite easy to avoid the IFS if you're not being a jerk... Also, I don't really consider a LB penalty (queue timer) a punishment, as they always related to my internet issues and caused me to go, "Hmm I should look into these net issues instead of dc'ing from games". I look at them as a warning more than anything, not an actual punishment. But, have a nice day

Imperial Pandaa4 votes

Been around since 3 or 4. Never got as much as a chat restriction. Unless you want to consider warnings, but those aren't technically punishments.

I don't need to be in control of my emotions, just my actions.

Somebody annoying me in chat? Mute. Excessive pinging? Mute the pings. Somebody tilting me through gameplay? I can verbally complain in real life and say whatever I want.

You don't have to type, you choose to.

Chermorg3 votes

Over 80% of players have never gotten a single punishment. I can't remember the exact statistic, but it's close to 90% or even possibly more from my memory.

CooL Ice Tea5 votes

You are entirely in control of your emotions.

In cases where someone dies, you lose your relationship to someone or stuff like that - no.

While playing a stupid video game? Hell yes.

Xidphel3 votes

Then take a break. Do something else.

Full Crit VelKoz4 votes

just because your teammates are toxic doesn't give you a right to be toxic

also i'd recommend typing a little less in game thats allot of lines in chat

wewuzkangz71 votes

60 lines over the course of a 34 minute game? And some of the lines were just used to emphasize a point, like:

wewuzkangz7: THAT wewuzkangz7: IS wewuzkangz7: TOXIC

The Cream Reaper4 votes

comment section tl;dr concerning OP

"unless you agree with me you are wrong and full of it"

kek

i see a perma in your future if your attitude doesn't change

wewuzkangz71 votes

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The Cream Reaper3 votes

Actually its the other way around. Calling people names won't change that

HalcyonDweller3 votes

Don't confuse the trolls with the rational folks. It's possible for people to disagree with you without being "virtue signalling perma-virgins" and you should know better than to go after people like that.

You're making generalizations and literally creating more enemies for yourself by lumping everyone together and insulting the rational people as if they are the same as the trolls.

Case in point, Umbral Regent was being perfectly polite. You should not have been rude to them.

ModPeriscope3 votes

You were punished for accusing your teammate of inting, insulting them, and arguing with your teammate. Even if Riven were inting, accusing them and insulting them isn't going to help the situation. Further, calling for reports is unnecessary and can also contribute to your punishment; it only takes 1 report to trigger a review of you someone's chat.

wewuzkangz71 votes

accusing your teammate of inting

Quit your bullshit. The riven walked under turret, and exclaimed in team chat that she was INTENTIONALLY FEEDING.

Umbral Regent4 votes

Then, did you really need to point it out to everyone 3-6~ times? 'Cause, if she said it herself, you adding to it does literally jack shit.

wewuzkangz71 votes

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Umbral Regent5 votes

It doesn't matter if it's enemies or allies - if they see Riven intentionally feeding, they'll know she's feeding. If it's obvious, it's obvious. You exclaiming it umpteen times, bugging and badgering the opponents about whether or not they saw it...

wewuzkangz7: ori did you see the riven die under ur turret on purpose? wewuzkangz7: oriana wewuzkangz7: orianna wewuzkangz7: did you see the riven int under ur turret?

wewuzkangz7: please report riven.. wewuzkangz7: intentionally feeding wewuzkangz7: ori how do you think you got first blood? wewuzkangz7: do you think the riven walked under turret for no reason?

wewuzkangz7: ori watch the replay please :D wewuzkangz7: you'll see the riven at about 3 minutes in walking under your turret on purpose, and she types in chat "im inting" wewuzkangz7: you're a troll if you don't think she should get reported for that

Is not going to somehow increase the likelihood that they'll report her, somehow thus increasing the likelihood she'll get punished.

The system disregards any report past the first - it takes only one report for a match to be reviewed and for a punishment to be met.

Meaning all you're doing is harassing Riven and badgering the enemy team about her, which is, as it stands, against the rules.

ModPeriscope3 votes

Even if that were true, accusing them of inting and insulting them rarely improves the situation.

wewuzkangz71 votes

And how does it worsen the situation? If they're deadset on intentionally feeding and losing the game, how does me calling them out change anything? If I act positively it won't change anything, because they've ALREADY given the enemy team a large advantage.

ModPeriscope4 votes

No doubt, they've already worsened the game if they were inting. When you're negative, everyone on your team now has an inter and another toxic player to deal with. Additionally, you had even taken this into /all chat.

Looking at the Riven's stats, even if he had intentionally fed, he certainly didn't continue to do so.

Xidphel2 votes

As... we can clearly see?

Umbral Regent3 votes

wewuzkangz7: and you're doing bannable stuff

wewuzkangz7: riven inting is bannablle wewuzkangz7: riven stoopo wewuzkangz7: dude im not stopping everything im doing to gank top wewuzkangz7: when ur trolling me wewuzkangz7: riven treat your teammates better if u want help wewuzkangz7: why do you expect me to help when you walked under turret and inted, and then blamed me? wewuzkangz7: ori did you see the riven die under ur turret on purpose?

wewuzkangz7: did you see the riven int under ur turret?

wewuzkangz7: riven is stealing my farm :/

wewuzkangz7: please report riven.. wewuzkangz7: intentionally feeding

wewuzkangz7: stfu loser

wewuzkangz7: you'll see the riven at about 3 minutes in walking under your turret on purpose, and she types in chat "im inting" wewuzkangz7: you're a troll if you don't think she should get reported for that

Quite a lot of consistent singling out and harassing, finger-pointing, and so on towards Riven...

wewuzkangz7: how was i trolling? wewuzkangz7: how was i toxic? wewuzkangz7: no seriously wewuzkangz7: how was i toxic yasuo wewuzkangz7: dude thats not how evidence works wewuzkangz7: YOU have the burden of evidence wewuzkangz7: because YOU accused me wewuzkangz7: YASUO IS ACCUSING ME OF BEING TOXIC AND WANTS ME TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF WHY I WASNT TOXIC wewuzkangz7: THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS BUDDY wewuzkangz7: caps isnt toxic>?> wewuzkangz7: bro i know you REALLY want to be right, but you're WRONG. so STOP wewuzkangz7: you DONT get to accuse me without evidence wewuzkangz7: THAT'S TOXIC BRO wewuzkangz7: THAT wewuzkangz7: IS wewuzkangz7: TOXIC

And then you start arguing with Yasuo.

You weren't punished for your teammates being toxic, you were punished for you being toxic. Out of 60~ lines, you spent 15 lines of your chat harassing Riven, and then 16 more arguing with Yasuo. If Yasuo was starting shit and accusing you of being toxic (you kinda were, really), you should've just muted him and reported him post-game.

If Riven was intentionally feeding, there really isn't much you could do besides playing around her. Flaming and pointing at her is really only giving her the attention she wants, as I imagine the intentional feeding was meant to get a rile out of someone - which they clearly succeeded.

I'd personally say that this punishment is warranted.

wewuzkangz71 votes

He starts typing to the enemy that I've been toxic, when, as you can see in my early chat logs, I was NOT toxic. I made sure to tell the riven to be nice to me if she wanted ganks, and I tried multiple times to explain why a gank failed. At this point the enemy team is trolling in chat, saying that riven wasn't inting, and that I was just getting outplayed. When yasuo started accusing me I asked what evidence he had of me being toxic, and he said I was the person who needed to provide the evidence. Like wtf? that's not how the burden of proof works. You accuse someone, you have to provide evidence as to why your accusation is correct. And then he starts saying that me typing in caps is toxic, when I've literally seen posts from forum staff saying that it specifically is NOT bannable

Please read the post before replying to it. The yasuo was obviously trying to get me punished by falsifying information.

Quite a lot of consistent singling out and harassing, finger-pointing, and so on towards Riven...

Ah yes, let me just watch this riven lose me my game without calling her out on it. This isn't 1st fucking grade, grow the fuck up and quick the "WAHHH HE WAS POINTING FINGERS" bullshit.

Umbral Regent3 votes

Please read the post before replying to it. The yasuo was obviously trying to get me punished by falsifying information.

The chatlogs are the only information that's relevant. The "context" is just fluff. If Yasuo was trying to get you punished by falsifying information, and if you did nothing wrong, you would not have been punished.

You were punished, so very clearly, you did something wrong. I pointed out the two most likely causes leading towards your punishment - arguing with Yasuo, and flaming Riven.

Speaking of which...

Ah yes, let me just watch this riven lose me my game without calling her out on it. This isn't 1st fucking grade, grow the fuck up and quick the "WAHHH HE WAS POINTING FINGERS" bullshit.

I'm an adult, dude. More than that, I'm internet-savvy enough to know not to feed the trolls. And, you're right, this isn't 1st grade, this is League of Legends, a videogame with rules that need to be followed. You did not follow them.

To pull from the Terms of Use;

5.1. Can I troll, flame, threaten or harass people while using the Riot Services? (No. If you do, you might get banned.)

While using the Riot Services, you must comply with all laws, rules and regulations in the jurisdiction in which you reside. You must also comply with certain additional rules that govern your use of the Riot Services (the “Code of Conduct”). The Code of Conduct is not meant to be exhaustive, and we reserve the right to modify it at any time, as well as take appropriate disciplinary measures including account termination and deletion to protect the integrity and spirit of the Riot Services, regardless of whether a specific behavior is listed in the policy as inappropriate. In addition to the Code of Conduct, please review the Summoner’s Code for additional guidance on exemplary gameplay behavior.

In other words - you are not allowed to "call Riven out" on feeding. Like I said, you just have to play around her. I've played against people who had intentional feeders on their team, and they played around them - turned around and won, even.

You're not expected to not get frustrated - you're just expected to be able to compose yourself despite the frustration.

And, lastly; you can say all you want that my assessment of your behavior is bullshit, but, in the end, you came to the boards to ask the community's opinion. I gave you mine. You don't have to like it, you don't have to learn from it, but you did ultimately ask for it.

wewuzkangz71 votes

You were punished, so very clearly, you did something wrong.

Nice appeal to authority. "Mandela HAD to have done something wrong for him to be in prison!"

Umbral Regent4 votes

You'll have to pardon, I don't know anything about who Mandela is or what happened to him, but I already know that it's completely irrelevant to your case.

The IFS is unbiased, and obscenely accurate to boot. The chances of a punishment being applied in error are pretty fucking slim. You were punished, so clearly, your behavior was in error. I, and others here on the PB board, have outlined to you how your behavior broke the rules.

If you don't want to accept that you're in the wrong here (which, again; you are.), then say so and we can consider this discussion over.

wewuzkangz71 votes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Umbral Regent5 votes

I said I don't know anything about the situation; I didn't ask for more information.

We aren't here to talk about Nelson Mandela. We're here to talk about you.

You broke the rules. You got punished. You refuse to accept the punishment. The community that you asked for opinions from, in general, agrees that your punishment was merited.

Honestly, I think this discussion is over already.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

It wouldn't matter what the Yasuo said because the system doesn't review his chat and behavior when deciding whether or not to punish you, it only reviews yours. If you do nothing wrong then it throws out any false reports.

Additionally, 9 reports trigger a review the same as 1 report would, so getting ganged up on and reported 9x is not going to increase the likelihood of you actually getting punished. It's just if number of reports is greater than 1 then review your behavior to see if you did something punishable.

ModJikker3 votes

Hey guys,

Some of the conversation on this thread is devolving into insults and name calling. Let's remember to always observe the Golden Rule and be respectful to others when we post, even to those we disagree with.

Carry on

[poppy-wink]

Awf Meta2 votes

Friendly advice, file a support ticket. Do not post on the player behavior forums.

Riot support will assist you in explaining what you were punished for. In the event that you were wrongly punished, Riot will reverse the punishment.

Arguing with the people here will just make you more upset. They can't reverse your punishment. You won't receive empathy. They are going to point their fingers and say, "you are toxic ban deserved". Ironically, they won't get punished for it either.

Umbral Regent2 votes

While I will say that it is good advice to, in general, go to Riot Support with questions about punishments (as they can easily pull reliable information to explain punishments, whereas we on the boards can only make guesses - educated or otherwise), that doesn't really mean they shouldn't also post on the PB boards.

Yes, OP breaking down into pointless, petty arguments (see the argument with AeroWaffle) will likely make them more upset. Yes, we can't reverse a punishment (although we could potentially weigh in to whether or not the punishment was merited, and therefor reversible).

And, yes, a good handful of us aren't going to offer empathy. Some do, but altogether, we know we can't really offer much besides a "sorry you had to deal with toxic players, but you shouldn't have stooped to their level".

But, you're greatly oversimplifying what we do. No, we don't just point our fingers and say "you are toxic ban deserved" - the PB regulars, and some who aren't, try to weigh in on what they felt may have led to the punishment. We look at the chat logs and try to see what, in our eyes, may have triggered a punishment.

Sometimes it comes down to seeing what could have been, or was flaming, or detrimental arguments, etc., and others could simply boil it down to feeling like the player wouldn't have been good to have on one's team. Either way, no matter how we go about it, we do try to be at least respectful of the OP when we give our two cents.

And, let me ask; why should we be punished for explaining why someone got punished?

wewuzkangz71 votes

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HalcyonDweller3 votes

Whoah dude that was entirely uncalled for.

Awf Meta1 votes

I'm only replying because I'm bored.

whereas we on the boards can only make guesses - educated or otherwise), that doesn't really mean they shouldn't also post on the PB boards.

What good does an educated guess do? Riot will tell them what they did. No guess work involved.

(although we could potentially weigh in to whether or not the punishment was merited, and therefor reversible).

You don't decide what is punishable. Riot decides what is punishable. You have, literally, no influence to decide if a punishment is reversible.

we know we can't really offer much besides a "sorry you had to deal with toxic players, but you shouldn't have stooped to their level".

See there? Your own words. You are powerless. All you have to offer is an opinion and maybe a link to the rule book.

No, we don't just point our fingers and say "you are toxic ban deserved" - the PB regulars, and some who aren't,** try to weigh in on** what they felt may have led to the punishment. We look at the chat logs and try to see what,** in our eyes, may have** triggered a punishment.

POWERLESS. You didn't even give an example of what you do besides finger point. Hint, when you assume someone is guilty before reading the chat log, that is called finger pointing.

Either way, no matter how we go about it, we do try to be at least respectful of the OP when we give our two cents.

Perhaps you are more civil than others. Others though? "kek i see a perma in your future if your attitude doesn't change". Not so much.

And, let me ask; why should we be punished for explaining why someone got punished?

To reiterate, you don't KNOW why someone got punished. Riot KNOWS why someone got punished.

That said, again, if someone respectfully offers their opinion on a punishment, I don't have a problem with that.

When people start spamming summoner 11, down votes, off topic arguing, and claiming superiority, I feel they should at least be discouraged if not punished.

Umbral Regent1 votes

What good does an educated guess do? Riot will tell them what they did. No guess work involved.

Well, considering that punishments start with players reporting other players, it's always worth seeing what the community of players has to say about their punishment.

Besides, you say it like even the slightest uncertainty (there often is very little) in the reasoning for a punishment is enough to completely disqualify anyone from offering their opinions.

There's a little thing one can do where you simply take the majority of replies, and see where they line up. When everyone's saying "you harassed and attacked x player" - even if everything else is uncertain, you can guess "okay, well, that's something everyone can see".

Besides, even Riot Support parses through the chat logs the same way we players do. So, same guesswork, it's just got the red of an official Rioter on it.

You don't decide what is punishable. Riot decides what is punishable. You have, literally, no influence to decide if a punishment is reversible.

Okay, and? We can still say "I don't see why this would have merited a punishment, you should pop in to Riot Support to see whether or not it was in error".

The system is automated, so there is the off-chance that a player could have been punished in error, and it helps to get the community's opinion on that to see whether or not it should be brought up with Riot. They have the final verdict on whether or not the punishment sticks, but, you can't say that the playerbase has no influence whatsoever.

"And, yes, a good handful of us aren't going to offer empathy. Some do, but altogether, we know we can't really offer much besides a 'sorry you had to deal with toxic players, but you shouldn't have stooped to their level'."

See there? Your own words. You are powerless. All you have to offer is an opinion and maybe a link to the rule book.

That quote you pulled wasn't in regards to whether or not we have influence over whether or not a punishment gets applied or is in error. That was in regards to players not showing empathy to those who were punished.

As in, some people are empathetic to those who give in to their anger and start counterflaming, but understandingly remind the punished player that, while it sucks to have trolls or flamers or what have you, stooping down to their level does nothing.

If you're going to quote me, use the whole quote, and actually respond to it appropriately.

POWERLESS. You didn't even give an example of what you do besides finger point. Hint, when you assume someone is guilty before reading the chat log, that is called finger pointing.

Assuming someone is guilty before reading the chat log is finger-pointing? Lemme google this real quick.

actions or words that bring attention to a particular person or issue.

Well, you're half-right in that it seems that all we can do is finger-point - as in, point out and bring attention to certain issues with a player's chat log, but, you're certainly wrong that assuming guilt of a party is finger pointing.

If a person is confused about their punishment, we point out why they were punished and try to elucidate for them where they may have broken the rules. If even we are confused, we tell the person to ask Riot Support. Does that explain things better?

As for assuming that a person is guilty - what about it? The IFS is ridiculously accurate, it's fair to go into a person's post assuming that they were punished rightly. And if they weren't, then it's a pleasant surprise. As long as that assumption doesn't wholly color someone's assessment, it's not an issue.

And, you bold and capitalize the word "powerless" like it's supposed to mean something here. I never said that we, the community, could somehow wholly overturn a punishment with a few magic words or anything like that - I just said that we weigh in on people's punishments and whether or not we view them as just.

Perhaps you are more civil than others. Others though? "kek i see a perma in your future if your attitude doesn't change". Not so much.

And you lump everyone together in the same little boat...why?

To reiterate, you don't KNOW why someone got punished. Riot KNOWS why someone got punished.

You would be surprised what others know. Besides - even modest perception is enough to know why most folks get punished.

When people start spamming smites, down votes, off topic arguing, and claiming superiority, I feel they should at least be discouraged if not punished.

Smites are an issue, honestly. Report them for spam where you see them, the mods will take care of them.

Downvotes...Not an issue. They're a way to show an individual's disagreement (or agreement in the case of upvotes), and there's no reason to punish people who use the boards feature.

Yes, some people are going to get downvoted to oblivion, but PB regulars (as far as I know) browse with their Boards filter set to "New", so anything recently posted will show up for them. If I had any money to wager, I'd bet that even Tantram has his Boards thing set to "New".

Off-topic arguing, yes, that is also a problem. If it devolves to that point, report for spam, but try not to succumb to a bias and report small digressions or tenuously-relevant discussions. Some of that all still fits, after all.

I've not personally seen too much of people claiming superiority, and, even to that end, I'm not sure what exactly you mean, but, I guess if you see people acting like assholes to others, report them.

Then again, all of that (downvotes aside) kinda just falls into "if you feel like it's crossing a line, report it", so, there's that.

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I'm not "triggered" by you throwing insults.
Player Behavior361 comments
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Black Alistar, King Rammus!!!!
Player Behavior462 comments
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