Instant Feedback System Has Zero Intelligence

Twisted Frenzy·1/12/2017, 10:28:18 PM·3 votes·1,448 views

I have been banned for 14 days and the 3 examples I was given were me asking people to stop trolling and join the team or not give up because it was early and we could win. I was not flaming, I was not being negative. If this is automation it is pathetic. I used to get more frustrated in chat and was chat restricted appropriately but that was a long time ago. If what I have said recently is worthy of a ban then the game should just be shut down....I was not being toxic at all.

And, riot has made it so there is no contesting? If its too much work to review some cases then they need to improve the intelligence of the system. That or they do this so people will create new accounts and spend more money which is just a scam. I was working my way up the ranked ladder and at this point, I have been stripped of my motivation to care. I'm a paying member and feel that the treatment is terrible, especially when so many real trolls and toxic people continue and affect 1/2 the games you play.

Basically riot is saying don't use chat at all and when people refuse to play with the team you can't even suggest (or beg) they join in a postiive way...apparently that's against the summoners code. What a joke.

16 Comments

RiotRiot Tantram1/12/2017, 11:47:30 PM19 votes

This normally would have only resulted in a chat restriction, but you've had 2 chat restrictions in the month before this, so it was escalated to a ban.

In the future, you should just mute people and report them after the game.

Threatening people with reports, telling them to enjoy their ban, and constantly arguing instead of playing are all things the community does not find acceptable. You become a part of the problem when you engage in long arguments, and ruin the game for other players.

Horse Grenades1/12/2017, 11:05:52 PM4 votes

Post logs of your innocence

Deep Terror Nami1/12/2017, 10:32:58 PM4 votes

I recommend posting those logs here; it's rarely as mild as claimed. The IFS is actually pretty good at not punishing for false positives, but Riot will take a look manually on request from a ticket and can reduce or remove an error in punishment.

Twisted Frenzy1/12/2017, 11:39:30 PM2 votes

Okay, I copied from in-game. Seriously I understand this isn't 100% perfect but if this is worthy of a 2 week ban then RIOT needs to just disable chat. I was not going after anyone in a toxic manner at all.

Game 3 Twisted Frenzy: she shouldnt have been able to chase me that far alone.... Twisted Frenzy: just keep calm guys Twisted Frenzy: akali stop flaming Twisted Frenzy: so they are grouping.....lol Twisted Frenzy: guys just play and stfu pls lol Twisted Frenzy: jsut mute nad report her who cares Twisted Frenzy: yeah akali jsut straight up suicided Twisted Frenzy: yeah Twisted Frenzy: you charged her right outside your turret i watched she did NOT dive Twisted Frenzy: yeah akali is trolling Twisted Frenzy: trolling my jg now Twisted Frenzy: cool good game, enjoy your ban akali Twisted Frenzy: lol akali you arent even good at jg trolling Twisted Frenzy: sad Twisted Frenzy: naw trolls trolls cause they cant play...its part of the game and its pathetic but who cares Twisted Frenzy: i win most the time anyway Twisted Frenzy: uh keep talking Twisted Frenzy: you are getting 4 reports anyway Twisted Frenzy: and akali its called "maturity" lol Twisted Frenzy: muted Twisted Frenzy: yeah Twisted Frenzy: ignore the troll Twisted Frenzy: she wants to argue Twisted Frenzy: thats all she wants Twisted Frenzy: yeah trolls are usually pretty dumb, thats whyn they troll lol

Game 2 Twisted Frenzy: always but leave room Twisted Frenzy: jsut wanted to see Twisted Frenzy: ty Twisted Frenzy: gank after wolves Twisted Frenzy: if room Twisted Frenzy: hec coming Twisted Frenzy: hec has 4 kills Twisted Frenzy: agreed Twisted Frenzy: leona + rammus teamfight Twisted Frenzy: dont go alone veigar pls Twisted Frenzy: stay with friends Twisted Frenzy: shh ez no point Twisted Frenzy: just win as a team Twisted Frenzy: guys laning is over Twisted Frenzy: its fine Twisted Frenzy: teamwork pls Twisted Frenzy: we need to group Twisted Frenzy: not flame Twisted Frenzy: ez stfu pls and paly Twisted Frenzy: play Twisted Frenzy: hec top Twisted Frenzy: drag Twisted Frenzy: ez you are becoming the problem stop flaming Twisted Frenzy: ez reported Twisted Frenzy: nope but th most noob toxic thing you can do is flame Twisted Frenzy: hes not having a good game but we still need teamwork Twisted Frenzy: what you are doing helps nothing Twisted Frenzy: what you aredoing is pure bronze attitude Twisted Frenzy: fine report him but stop being toxic Twisted Frenzy: stay grouped Twisted Frenzy: or dont stay grouped Twisted Frenzy: that was a team fail Twisted Frenzy: i was getting zil Twisted Frenzy: veigar reported for feeding but ez double report Twisted Frenzy: nope im reporting him too Twisted Frenzy: you pretty much are trolling ez Twisted Frenzy: im not im telling you to stfu so we can win Twisted Frenzy: nope Twisted Frenzy: great 4 reports enjoy the ban Twisted Frenzy: for nothing lol go ahead false reports work against you Twisted Frenzy: muted Twisted Frenzy: we can win Twisted Frenzy: if this ez stop being a baby we can totally win Twisted Frenzy: figures lol Twisted Frenzy: apparently you cant read, im reporting him for feeding i told you that Twisted Frenzy: but that doesnt mean flaming makes sense Twisted Frenzy: im not and never did Twisted Frenzy: i said stop being toxic Twisted Frenzy: muted again you are brainless Twisted Frenzy: 2v5? Twisted Frenzy: they are split Twisted Frenzy: ez you gotta learn that attitude is a big part of winning Twisted Frenzy: right

Game 1 Twisted Frenzy: not all game, when it stops being uselfull group Twisted Frenzy: constant splitting is a sure loss Twisted Frenzy: AHE Twisted Frenzy: chase was a bad idea Twisted Frenzy: vi not far bot Twisted Frenzy: nasus stop whining and play safer Twisted Frenzy: you shouldnt be in ranked its early.... Twisted Frenzy: relax Twisted Frenzy: whos fault is that? Twisted Frenzy: farm at turret Twisted Frenzy: he doesnt even have items... Twisted Frenzy: wow nasus you are jhsut bad Twisted Frenzy: he just suicded under the turret Twisted Frenzy: nasus rage quit Twisted Frenzy: i swaer theres more trolls in silver than bronze Twisted Frenzy: he was feeding anyway Twisted Frenzy: completely suicidal Twisted Frenzy: he literally tilted at 5 min Twisted Frenzy: before i said anything he said he was done with the game Twisted Frenzy: hes also the one that decided i shouldnt play rammus despte the fact he cant play....he was always going to quit Twisted Frenzy: lol just report the troll Twisted Frenzy: im reporting you Twisted Frenzy: greifing me for for tellign him to relax it was early Twisted Frenzy: i did not flame him I was trying to get him to chill Twisted Frenzy: but you are griefing me Twisted Frenzy: im telling you Twisted Frenzy: there ya go theres the report for you Twisted Frenzy: good job Twisted Frenzy: you are the one hassling me lol Twisted Frenzy: so stop Twisted Frenzy: no i didnt lol the troll did but nice try

Twisted Frenzy1/12/2017, 11:33:41 PM2 votes

I will post the logs if the email ever arrives. I read them upon login but the proof via email still hasn't come.

Twisted Frenzy1/12/2017, 11:49:52 PM2 votes

Yeah if that's the attitude, the trolls have won. Good game. They do whatever they want and telling people to stop flaming or play safer is good enough for a restriction or a ban? Yeah makes sense. Motivation completely lost. There are plenty of other things to do with my time. In all 3 of those games, I was only trying to bring it back from a sure loss. Part of the problem? They were already over due to trolling.

venomous frost1/12/2017, 10:33:24 PM1 votes

Only humans can be intelligent

A computer just follows pre programmed code

thus you are not wrong

Kei1431/13/2017, 5:12:46 PM1 votes

fyi, your next punishment is a perma.

anything that can yield you a punishment will get you there. Mild or extreme toxicity, its the same.

And don't assume you get 3 chances.

Twisted Frenzy1/13/2017, 1:49:49 AM1 votes

You know, this would be reasonable:

" and you have seen how logs that might ordinarily seem rather mild can be considered toxic by Riot and other players."

.........if the game wasn't filled with hardcore trolls and aggressive, obnoxious players with profanity and intent to harm that somehow aren't being stopped.

I would accept this if the community were even slightly under control, but it's not. Your system sucks and is punishing people in ways that do not match the crimes. There's a lot of justification in the words provided but its all very weak, the results are not there. But, I guess you can say whatever you want these days, we live in a Trump world.

Magical Player1/13/2017, 2:54:03 AM1 votes

Trump is the reason for you typing in league.....

Pantheon Forever1/12/2017, 10:41:37 PM1 votes

Well, "asking people to stop trolling" is synonymous with accusing people of trolling, which constitutes harassment. Even if they are trolling (which is also breaking the rules), harassing them about it is breaking a different rule. Meanwhile chat is easier to monitor than game play so the players harassing the trolls will get punished more often than the trolls. This trolling technique is commonly referred to as "baiting".

http://31.media.tumblr.com/cd47586487a8e721254bd2530e1e3992/tumblr_nd9bmidYZS1rp0vkjo1_500.gif

The system that punished you is working as intended while the system detecting trolls is newer and still needs work. If you want to be proactive start a new thread and start a list of things the non chat related system should look for, including but not limited to Anivia wall blocking allies, Heimerdinger AFK farming gromp over a wall, and TahmKench eating low allies and ghosting and flashing to spit them under enemy turret.