Duos have too much power

Sexual Release·Dec 29, 2017·1 votes·672 views

Recently permabanned. I was honor 3 before the perma without any prior 2 week bans. I got into a game and my jg failed a gank. Naturally there was some flaming from both him and his duo directed at me, and I returned the flame. I'll admit that I was pretty toxic in this game, but going from honor 3 to permaban after ONE GAME seems kinda strange to me. And yes, it is 100% because of that one game; when I open my client, there's only that one game in my toxic chat logs. Idk I think riot should really think about their policy here. I thought the normal case was chat restriction -> two week ban -> permaban, but I guess since a duo reported me, they skipped the 2 week ban.

I can post the chat logs if you want, but I'm not questioning being punished, but how severe it was.

30 Comments

Has No TeamDec 29, 20173 votes

lol that has nothing to do with a duo

You must have had a previous 14 day ban some time ago. THey do not simply permaban. Not even for obscene amounts of racial slurs. Turst me many have tried to see if anything can get you the insta perma.

Sexual ReleaseDec 29, 20171 votes

Well I'm certain nothing within the past 6 months. I guess I could have been 2 week banned a looooong time ago. So even if you show good behavior for 6 months, a single bad game gets your permad?

StupaflyDec 29, 20172 votes

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I guess I could have been 2 week banned a looooong time ago.

How do you not know?

I'm pretty sure I would remember.

General Esdeath Dec 29, 20173 votes

Time isn't the factor, amount of games and honors in games is what matters. If I got a 14 day ban and didn't log in for 5 years and then I log back in and call someone a racial slur, insta ban.

Sexual ReleaseDec 29, 20171 votes

I've played a LOT of games since 6 months. And like I said, honor 3, so no recent punishments.

General Esdeath Dec 29, 20172 votes

If your honor came back, you shouldn't be up for a perma. I'd send Riot a support ticket and ask them about it.

But this has nothing to do with duos, because number of reports don't change anything. The system is coded as "If report > 0 then..." so 9 reports hold the same weight as 1 report.

ModiDec 29, 20174 votes

If your honor came back, you shouldn't be up for a perma. I'd send Riot a support ticket and ask them about it.

That is incorrect. Gaining access to Honor is not related to punishment tier dropping. I still recommend opening a support ticket, just for information.

General Esdeath Dec 29, 20171 votes

But to get to 3 it would take at least 6 months of playing. If he said lvl 1 I would agree but something is wrong here if he was at 3.

ModiDec 29, 20171 votes

No, it does not take 3 months to get to lvl 3. On this board, there were people who say they were punished, then with consistent good behavior got it to lvl 3 much more quickly.

General Esdeath Dec 29, 20171 votes

Hmm, maybe they changed it since the start. I'm not keeping up with the news about honor status on punishments.

Kei143Dec 29, 20171 votes

If you were only on honor3 , it's telling me that you aren't playing enough. I reached honor5 after playing occasionally (maybe 3-5 games / week) after 3 months the honor system came out.

Telephone BoothDec 29, 20171 votes

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I've played a LOT of games since 6 months. And like I said, honor 3, so no recent punishments.

Honor 3 is pretty average. You shouls be honor 5 by now, but you've probably had valid reports against you that weren't bad enough to warrant a punishment, but were bad enough to consider you not honorable enough to move up in honor. So I don't know, you probably don't have a great history if you're only honor 3 and you've played a LOT of games.

OniZetsu666Dec 30, 20171 votes

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Honor 3 is pretty average. You shouls be honor 5 by now, but you've probably had valid reports against you that weren't bad enough to warrant a punishment, but were bad enough to consider you not honorable enough to move up in honor. So I don't know, you probably don't have a great history if you're only honor 3 and you've played a LOT of games.

I started about a month ago and I am already honor four...

The Cream ReaperDec 29, 20172 votes

Turst me many have tried to see if anything can get you the insta perma.

internet rule 101: never trust someone who says "trust me!"

Imperial PandaaDec 29, 20171 votes

What if they say, "Trust me, I'm an idiot."?

The Cream ReaperDec 29, 20172 votes

same rule

zPOOPzDec 29, 20171 votes

I guess he's not an idiot. Good to know.

Telephone BoothDec 29, 20172 votes

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I guess he's not an idiot. Good to know.

Honestly, yes. A true idiot would not say "trust me I'm an idiot". That shows too much self awareness. Sounds like a person who realizes he's wrong and has the intelligence to accept it and admit it. Trust me, I'm an idiot.

General Esdeath Dec 29, 20171 votes

Unless they say they're grill, then gift them with real life money items [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

The Cream ReaperDec 30, 20171 votes

what if i told you... i'm a grill... ;)

General Esdeath Dec 30, 20172 votes

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The Cream ReaperDec 30, 20171 votes

the thirst is real lol

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General Esdeath Dec 30, 20171 votes

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Telephone BoothDec 29, 20173 votes

"But I guess since a duo reported me, they skipped the 2 week ban"

You will probably be disappointed to know that the amount of reports you recieve in one game does not change the outcome of your punishment.

Jo0oDec 29, 20172 votes

If you truly didn't have prior punishments, submit a support ticket. Feel free to copy it and the response over here.

zPOOPzDec 29, 20172 votes

If you post your chat logs, it would help to understand why it was so severe.

Also, duo has no more power than solo player. In fact, it is the opposite. A duo can only have 1 EFFECTIVE report against you. You will have 2 effective reports against them (1 for each). Personally, I think soloq player has far more power than premades.

Icy Hot ShotoDec 30, 20172 votes

Without the chatlogs, it's hard to know what he did. However...

It's possible it's not just a ban, but a lock on top of a ban. look at his name, guys. That might be considered inappropriate. Note I'm not saying it is, but that it might be.

But if it IS an actual perma, chat logs and/or a Red might let us know.

Finn Teh HumanDec 30, 20172 votes

You're questioning the severity but you're not posting the chatlogs? Also, Riot said that honor has nothing to do with getting banned. Just because you're honor 5 doesn't give you the right to say "kys" in one game. Same goes for everyone else.

Kei143Dec 29, 20171 votes

There are 4 tiers of punishment.

10 game chat restriction
25 game chat restriction
14-day ban
Permaban

Extreme toxicity can cause you to skip punishment tiers. If you were skipped into permaban without a 14-day ban, it means you either were super super SUPER toxic (like .. alot of hate speech) or you had a 10/25 game chat restriction before this.

SadKillDec 29, 20171 votes

2 people reporting you in the same game is no stronger than 1 person reporting you in a single game. Duos do not have too much power because they don't have any more power than any one person.