This game does not even read its reports

imnottoxicnow··2 votes·614 views

Almost every single one of the reports in this game are never read and never will be read. So why does the ban system even exist? People legitimately get banned because the system deems it too many deaths with too many bans and you will get banned for intentionally feeding regardless of whether or not you were actually feeding. If someone is toxic, doesn't really matter what they say all that matters is whether or not they say fuck or shit or %%%%%%. It's a pretty bad system when the only time a person can get banned for toxicity is a chat filter.

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BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

0 evidence provided. Why even make this thread then?

imnottoxicnow1 votes

Do you actually think this game reads its reports? The bans are 100% computer generated for a game this big.

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

We were here since Boards was created back in 2014. We've read THOUSANDS of reports of players thinking their ban was falsed, of which about 99% of them were actually totally deserved & justified.

You on the other hand just strolled up here just 2 days ago, and posts nothing but copies of Dunkey's statement. Are you even here for an actual serious conversation, or just to spam meaningless posts?

imnottoxicnow1 votes

It doesn't matter how long you have been here or how long you have read player's stories. Bans in this game are absolutely computer generated. Whether or not you want to admit it, that's the reality here. You have just as little evidence as I do, yet you know I am right. The system doesn't work. It has been banning people for as long as possible. I even saw a post on this forum as I was scrolling of a player who was falsely punished by the system and an admin lifted the ban. So are you going to tell me I'm wrong here?

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

You just don't know anything, do you...

  • Were you aware that there were about hundreds of threads where Rioters personally double-checked the reports themselves?
  • When punished player stated he was "criticizing", did you even try to think about the difference between "criticizing" or straight up insulting when you were reading his chat logs?
  • Did you bother try to think about the benefits & disadvantages about insulting people?

Of course you don't. You JUST started coming to Boards, read only like, what? 2 out of 10000 Boards receives everyday? And somehow that can sum up the system being faulty in a nutshell? If the system was indeed faulty, WHERE'S MY PUNISHMENT? Cz I've been chat restricted/suspended free ever since I started League back around 2013. (Before you check my profile to find it inactive for a long time, I changed server due to the Chicago transfer making my NA games impossible to play)

How about you post that thread about that "falsified punishment" & we'll see.

imnottoxicnow1 votes
BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

The system's definitely not perfect, I won't lie. These kind of errors are typically rare around these parts. That's where I mentioned that Riot are allowed or requested to double-check their bans. Your statement looks as if 99% of them were false, which is just ridiculous.

imnottoxicnow1 votes

So you're wrong?

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Read my comment again...

imnottoxicnow1 votes

You tried to call me out on the post. I linked it and then you agreed with me that the system bans people wrongfully. SO YOU'RE WRONG.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

And you saying that 1 wrongful ban itself already sums up that every single punishment was falsified? Because this was the fact that I believe you were trying to prove.

imnottoxicnow1 votes

No. You strawmanned my argument. I said that the system wrongfully bans people. Which I have already proved that it does and is currently still doing. The post that I linked was just hours ago.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

I admit that the system isn't perfect. But it is DEFINITELY NOT that imperfect to be falsely banning 99% of the punished players. Cz so far as I've read, there were very rare cases of players who actually manages to get themselves unbanned, as most of the chat logs I've read were legitimately toxic & literally deserved the punishment.

imnottoxicnow1 votes

When did I ever say that it is falsely banning 99% of players? You're just strawmanning me. You're building my argument up to this impossible to defend point and then arguing against it.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

So what do you propose to Riot what should happen? You make this thread to prove a point, so what's the next step? You want to unban every single punishment & request Rioters to read every single one of them? Especially the ones where even a 2 year old knows what's toxic and what's not?

imnottoxicnow1 votes

See you can't even speak correctly. No, I don't want everyone unbanned this is just another strawman argument. I'm saying the report/ban system is absolutely fucking broken and the way we see "toxicity" in this game is backwards as fuck. The system has been in place for what 2 years now and you still see people on this forum every single day mad as fuck because they feel they were wrongfully banned yet you still defend it because "MUH TOXIC".

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

And we responded that they were actually justified in the comment section with evidence from their own chat logs. We even had threads where the punished player tried to lie to us by deleting off certain logs that contains %%%% in it. This is nothing new to see everyday when you get these type of threads popping up everyday.

Believe me when I say this. If you stayed here long enough to read these kinds of report everyday, you WILL understand the experience me & the rest of the community had to endure...

imnottoxicnow1 votes

You're still not even listening to what I'm saying.

imnottoxicnow1 votes

Also how come your post has nothing to do with what I'm saying? Are you a native English speaker?

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Funny, coming from someone spamming Dunkey's comment with no context...

imnottoxicnow1 votes

What does that mean? Some of your posts legitimately look like a non-native English speaker wrote them.

imnottoxicnow1 votes

You don't know how to use the word ironic. Which leads me to believe that you aren't a native English speaker. You shouldn't be responding to people in chats who actually need help. And yes I did use Dunkey's video but only because at this point it is what I truly believe.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

You're referring him calling others "a degenerate that should be gunned down in the streets"? Do be reminded that Dunkey was already punished a couple of times, as if you watched closely in the middle of the video, on the bottom right, he has a chat restricted limited message counter. So technically, him getting punished like this is pretty much justified as he's already moving from one tier to another.

imnottoxicnow1 votes

You're everything that is wrong with this community. If you actually watch his video, he's not defending the comment, he's not even defending the ban. He's saying that banning players for being "toxic" doesn't fix the root of the problem, only the symptom which is absolutely correct. Toxicity in this game stems from the fact that when you are losing in this game or being trolled you are absolutely helpless. The IFS doesn't help solve this problem at all. It makes the problem worse. You want to know why you see posts every single day about people wrongfully being banned? It's because the game turns good normal people into toxic animals that will flame each other into the ground. The games can legitimately be 3v5s even when you are able to carry your team it may not even be good enough and you will be shit talked for 1 misplay.

Umbral Regent1 votes

Almost every single one of the reports in this game are never read and never will be read.

Well, considering that the IFS churns through billions of reports and actually doles out punishment appropriately a bit more than 95% of the time, I'm going to assume that the reports are getting read.

So why does the ban system even exist?

Punishment System*, and to punish players who break the rules, obviously.

People legitimately get banned because the system deems it too many deaths with too many bans and you will get banned for intentionally feeding regardless of whether or not you were actually feeding.

Wrong. I've heard quite a few people say that cases of intentional feeding are manually reviewed - as in, by human beings and not the IFS - and I honestly doubt their criteria are "is the player's death count high and have they been reported a lot?" - there are a lot, and I mean a LOT of subtle factors into discerning intentional feeding from having a bad game.

If someone is toxic, doesn't really matter what they say all that matters is whether or not they say fuck or shit or %%%%%%.

Also wrong. Numerous players get punished for negative chat, and nobody gets punished just for saying "fuck" or "shit" - that last word though, looks to be either a homophobic or a racist slur, which will always result in a 14-day ban when it's verified.

I've heard one of the Moderators (and I kind of recall it being Prandine, but don't quote me on that) mention that the IFS works primarily off of a complex algorithm that allows it to basically read player chat. It can tell when a player is being an asshole and when they're not.

If you doubt me, go ahead and browse the Player Behavior boards for a while. Look at Chat Restriction cases, and tell me those people only got banned because they said "shit". Or, look at ban cases, and tell me those people hadn't had a history of bad behavior. (discounting those who use hate speech or other zero-tolerance chat)

It's a pretty bad system when the only time a person can get banned for toxicity is a chat filter.

First of all - yeesh, that sentence is hard to figure out.

Second - no, the chat filter doesn't have anything to do with punishing players, and players get punished for numerous reasons. Again - just look around PB.

Lastly - just because you think the system is bad doesn't mean it is. It isn't perfect, of course, not by a long shot, but it sure as shit isn't bad.

imnottoxicnow1 votes

What's your source on the 95% correct punishment? Or are you pulling it out of your ass? Is there any evidence that intentionally feeding or toxicity is manually reviewed? I sincerely doubt it is. 1.How is a robot going to decide if someone is intentionally feeding? 2. How is a robot going to decide if someone is being toxic if the criteria isn't just curse words? 3.I just want you to know that you can and definitely will be banned for just saying fuck and shit. You just have to say it a lot. It's happened to me.

kevin heals you1 votes

what's your evidence that people get banned for inting when they aren't? I'd like to see it

imnottoxicnow1 votes

How am I supposed to prove that? All I know is it has happened to me and it's bullshit

kevin heals you1 votes

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How am I supposed to prove that? All I know is it has happened to me and it's bullshit

you don't get in trouble for swearing you get in trouble for swearing at people and being toxic towards them

imnottoxicnow1 votes

Yet one of the most recent posts on here is one of a player's ban being lifted by an admin after being punished by the computer generated system :thinking:

Umbral Regent1 votes

You may want to :think: a little harder, because that person was wrongfully banned, given no context to their punishment in their reform card, and was only given a faraway date.

The community had suppositions about what led to their ban, but ultimately the issue was resolved by Riot Support.

You clearly weren't wrongfully banned, given no context, or expected to wait umpteen years, so I'm pretty sure the two cases are different.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

So let me understand this. Because of the one corrected ban, which mind you was for 3rd party programs or account sharing; which is actually a different system than the IFS, the IFS is shit?

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