Turret's syndrome.

rtbf113637591·Oct 17, 2018·2 votes·2,714 views

I turned to this game finding it very nice to play and worth my time. I have very little occasions to go out or do something else. and this derives mostly from my condition, that being turret's syndrome. This brought my accounts to be banned in several occasions and it's stressing since most of the times i cant help myself and even though usually some of the "flames" are not game related and are usually silly some players report me anyways.

I herefore ask to get a feature where i can disable my own chat and be impossibilitated to write. I still need the pings and the infos. I simply ask to not be able to write whatever I feel the need to write in that moment.

37 Comments

StriginaOct 17, 20189 votes

I think you mean Tourette syndom?
This is probably the very first time I hear (or read) about tics that make you write toxic stuff in chat. People with Tourette's have tics to "release their inner tension", it's impulsive act. Writing stuff needs you to think about it and it doesn't really sound like Tourette's.

I honestly think you are using name of disorder you heard about to reach your goal and that's not very nice.

geekloveOct 17, 20181 votes

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I honestly think you are using name of disorder you heard about to reach your goal and that's not very nice.

Oh sort of like how people used colorblindness to get a colorblind mode? Is it color or colour? I guess you've never seen someone misspell something on the internet before.

StriginaOct 17, 20184 votes

I don't recall anyone who would try to convince others about being colorblind while being not. I don't also recall someone calling themselves colorblind while asking about voice chat which is the same as asking for possibility to disable chat and using Tourette's as a reason. People with this disorder don't have problems with typing toxic stuff, it has completely different symptoms. Thus why I don't believe OP actually has Tourette's, it just looks like he is one of those people who think it's all about the urge to spit vulgarities and thought he could use it as an excuse for his toxic chat.

Also most people can spell the name of disorder they have as they are meeting the name very often. Of course unless it's a dyslexia or disorder with extremely complicated name.

geekloveOct 17, 20181 votes

I do recall colorblind people asking for an accommodation and getting it, it's called colorblind mode. So where's the accommodation for mentally ill people?

StriginaOct 17, 20186 votes

But that's not the point. The point is OP obviously lied about his disorder and asked for an accommodation based on this lie. I believe there are people who could use the option to disable chat, but people with Tourette's are not among them.

Using Tourette syndrome as an excuse for completely unrelated thing while you are not even suffering from it is an actual spit in the face of everyone with that disorder. That was the main point of my comment.

geekloveOct 17, 20181 votes

That's not the point.

The point is that Riot does nothing for people with mental illness. Mental illness in various forms is a real disability. Businesses are required by law, at least where I'm from, to make their business accessible. This includes but is not limited to educating employees about the AODA and how to assist customers with disabilities, wheelchair ramps, automatic entrances, elevators in subway stations, accessible parking, etc, etc.

People with colorblindness didn't have to prove their colorblindness to Riot for Riot to help them. Yet Riot does NOTHING for people who suffer from all sorts of mental illness. Someone could legitimately have something like PTSD, freak out in one game, get permabanned. On the other hand Riot has this cute message on the loading screen that they don't ban people for leaving a single game, because they supposedly understand real life happens.

Well mental illness in it's various forms does exist. Riot does not seem to understand this and does absolutely nothing to accommodate people with mental illness. Mental illness in various forms is a real disability.

Riot banning people based on their disability is discrimination, so is the fact that they don't do anything to accommodate people with mental illness in it's various forms. It's no different from talking to a person's support worker instead of a person directly or not having accessible parking.

StriginaOct 17, 20183 votes

That's not the point

Maybe you shouldn't decide what was the point of my comment you decided to react to. I wasn't in any way judging how Riot treats players with mental disorders but how OP lied about his and how he even used wrong disorder to reach his goal.

If you want to discuss Riot and their decisions, you better make your own comment, but don't react to something unrelated trying to twist the point of whatever I tried to say.

geekloveOct 17, 20181 votes

I've been rather consistent. Riot doesn't accommodate people with mental illness. People who are colorblind didn't need to prove it. Based on privacy laws, I don't need to prove I have anxiety, for my employer to provide me with an accommodation. In fact, where I live someone with AIDS doesn't have to tell their employer if they don't want to.

As a company that keeps trying to present themselves as inclusive, Riot isn't. A lack of empathy or assistance for mentally ill players is no different from discriminating against players based on race or sex.

StriginaOct 17, 20182 votes

You are consistent in a thread about something completely different. Might as well comment about your dinner and use the same "consistency" excuse, same principle. Now go hijack some else's comment.

geekloveOct 17, 20181 votes

I'm hijacking nothing. I support the mentally ill

TrulyBlandOct 17, 20184 votes

If you do, then allow me to interject in this discussion and ask you something:

How do you feel about the misrepresentation of ~~Turret's~~ Tourette's Syndrome in the OP? Even better yet: How do you feel about OP lying about the circumstances of their punishment in order to make that mental illness a usable excuse for an actually justified punishment? Better still: How do you feel about the fact that all of those inconsistencies in their story ultimately point towards the OP lying about having a mental illness in order to get special treatment?

While it's true that you are not technically hijacking this thread, in my honest opinion you are completely undermining your own position by posting your ideas here while turning a blind eye to the OP's disrespect towards the mentally ill.

geekloveOct 17, 20181 votes

If he's lying, that's on him.

FemalesAreLesserOct 17, 20181 votes

It's called the unistall wizard.

Baka RedOct 18, 20182 votes

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Oh sort of like how people used colorblindness to get a colorblind mode? Is it color or colour? I guess you've never seen someone misspell something on the internet before.

Just an answer to you: "Colour" is British English. "Color" is American English. British english has other "ou" words which American English shortens up and writes in only "o". Other english variations like Australian / Indian / Canadian (maybe there are even more of these) English might have their own variations, but I do not know much about those.

VoldymortOct 17, 20184 votes

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Hey now, only heimerdinger has turret's syndrome.

Telephone BoothOct 17, 20183 votes

Fucking liar. Has the syndrome but doesnt even know how to spell it. You lie. Stop.

CharDeeMcDennizOct 17, 20182 votes

this is the most pathetic spam...shame on you

KaiokoOct 17, 20182 votes

Toxicity in chat is not a symptom of TOURETTE's (at least spell the thing you're pretending to have correctly)

AJStarhikerOct 18, 20182 votes

There is also something called "Reasonable accommodation".

Adding colorblind mode is reasonable. It basically a skin for names/alerts/etc. And some non-colorblind players prefer it, too.

Accommodating disabilities that put people at risk or allow them to break rules is not reasonable.

geekloveOct 17, 20181 votes

Riot doesn't accommodate people with mental illness in any way even though mental illness in various forms is a disability.

Riot only parodies mentally ill people via champions like Kled or Jinx, they don't actually have any empathy towards them. No different from the fact that they'll ban people for having other mental illnesses like anxiety, depression, ptsd, bipolar disorder, etc.

There's a colorblind mode, but there's nothing for the mentally ill. There is no accomodation that's made for mentally ill people. Riot claims they understand that real life happens and on account of that you won't get banned for leaving a single game. Yet your actions in a single game, based on mental illness, can be enough to get someone banned.

It also doesn't help that mental illness in general are misrepresented in media. Mentally ill people are often portrayed as criminal or violent.

PhoenixdustOct 17, 20187 votes

How is Kled a parody of people with mental illness? (Is it somehow related to his lore or what?)

Where does Rito ban for having anxiety, depression, etc....? They ban you if you can not behave, with their standards. If for any reason you are unable to follow the ToS what you agreed to, then you will get punished. (I do not agree with any kind of punishment for chat related issues, since we have the mute option. But saying that Rito will ban you for having depression, is simply a lie.)

What features would you like to see for the mentally ill people? (Except the self-mute, which is a great idea, and should have been implemented years ago, so on this i can agree with you.)

"Mentally ill people are often portrayed as criminal or violent." - Is it this way in the US (assumed you are from the USA, sorry if i'm wrong)? Where i live, we see mentally ill people as mentally ill people and criminals as criminals. Stating the fact that some kind of mental illnesses increase your chance to become a criminal is a fact, not any kind of discrimination or misinterpretation.

geekloveOct 17, 20181 votes

If someone has depression, anxiety, turrets, etc, they may very well act in such a way that might go against the TOS. But the TOS is being applied one size fits all. It's like saying handicapped parking spots shouldn't exist or this game shouldn't have a colorblind mode. Depending on disability, people often need some sort of accommodation. In LoL there is no accommodation for people suffering from various forms of mental illness. Various governments recognize anxiety as a mental illness and do provide social assistance to those people because they can't necessarily find a job.

Self mute might very well be helpful. Not banning someone just because they're having a bad day would also be nice. So would sensitivity training for Riot employees. As it stands, support staff aren't very supportive at all in regards to people who may have mental illness and have expressed as much to support staff.

On the loading screen there's sometimes a message that says leaver buster won't ban you for a single leave, because Riot understands life happens. Yet they'll ban people with mental illness for single offenses. There's a clear double standard here. It's okay that you have to stop playing because your mom told you it's dinner time, but it's not okay if you have anxiety or depression and happen to have a bad day.

Examples of media that portray mentally ill people as criminal or violent include but aren't limited to comic book characters like the Joker or the movie Psycho.

Words like psycho, maniac, crazy, mad or insane are usually used in a negative connotation. These words are all used to describe people with mental illness, both by the media and the general public.

PhoenixdustOct 17, 20183 votes

You are partially right, but while you are defending the rights of the mentally ill people, you should think about the sane persons too. It is not a single player game, if you with your mental illness ruins the game for others, then you are not fit to play this game. So if somebody has any kind of mental illness, and he runs down mid because he feels so, he deserves a punishment no matter what. I signed up to play the game and have fun, if he tries to sabotage me, i would like to see him banned. (Now i'm talking about gameplay related offenses and not chat.)

Nobody forces you to play the game. And NOT EVERYBODY is fit to play this game. Just like in real life, not everybody is fit for every kind of jobs, we do not have to think about disabilities, but even just physical differences, some people are stronger than others, so they can do jobs which requires that kind of skill, some others are more intelligent, so they will do jobs which fits them. If you are mentally ill, and your mental illness prevent you to play this game, and keep it playable for others, then you should not play the game. Go play single players, or other multiplayers, where your disability doesn't ruin the experience for others.

Because Joker's character is clearly mentally ill, because of the actions he makes. No sane person would do stuff like that. Usually the villains do stuff what no sane person would do, you need to be at least a psychopath to do stuff like that. Also, in a way Batman also have a mental illness, and i do not know too much about the comics, but if i know well, even he admits it, that not everything is correct in his head, and he do not want people to turn out the same as he is. (I might be wrong on this one.) And also the point of comics is to entertain, and you need some kind of villain there. The crimes committed by sane people are much more boring, than what a crazy villain would do, so they will have crazy villains for interesting plots.

Of course these words have negative connotations, because mental illnesses are negative.

geekloveOct 17, 20181 votes

Except things like the Joker are a creation and create specific views of mentally ill people, views such as them being violent or dangerous. These are media portrayals that do create a certain view of mentally ill people.

Mental illness is a disability. It's not fair to use words like psycho or insane to describe the mentally ill. Just like this game will punish or ban you for using the word** retard** to describe players.

Mental illness isn't a choice. And having a bunch of words that people use to describe the mentally ill, that all have negative connotations, doesn't help mentally ill people. People use words like psycho to describe mentally ill people, but those people aren't necessarily psychos. Or calling someone who's mentally ill mad, may also imply they're angry, even though they're not angry.

VoldymortOct 17, 20184 votes

How is Kled a parody of people with mental illness?

if anything, i think Yasuo is a better example

[slayer-jinx-wink]

BettnachlegerOct 17, 20181 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Telephone BoothOct 17, 20182 votes

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How is Kled a parody of people with mental illness? (Is it somehow related to his lore or what?)

Where does Rito ban for having anxiety, depression, etc....? They ban you if you can not behave, with their standards. If for any reason you are unable to follow the ToS what you agreed to, then you will get punished. (I do not agree with any kind of punishment for chat related issues, since we have the mute option. But saying that Rito will ban you for having depression, is simply a lie.)

What features would you like to see for the mentally ill people? (Except the self-mute, which is a great idea, and should have been implemented years ago, so on this i can agree with you.)

"Mentally ill people are often portrayed as criminal or violent." - Is it this way in the US (assumed you are from the USA, sorry if i'm wrong)? Where i live, we see mentally ill people as mentally ill people and criminals as criminals. Stating the fact that some kind of mental illnesses increase your chance to become a criminal is a fact, not any kind of discrimination or misinterpretation.

No hes full of shit. We dont portray the mentally ill as criminals in the US. The simple minded, and perhaps children may make fun ofthe mentally ill and ignore their problems. But no... its not a thing that we portray them as criminals, just that some interpret it that way. (Which would be the simple minded)

XidphelOct 17, 20185 votes

Also something something flat Earth.

geekloveOct 17, 20181 votes

Mental illness isn't a conspiracy theory. Ironic that you're being a jerk on "player behavior" boards. Perhaps you'd like to explain to me all the accommodations Riot makes for people with mental illness? They have a colorblind mode after all and say that leaving a game is something that's ok if it's not chronic.

XidphelOct 17, 20184 votes

I know Mental illness ain't a conspiracy theory. Why would anyone believe that (then again, flat-earthers exist so people believing in what you falsely believed to be my claim isn't outside the realm of possibilities.) I have one myself. It's funny how you immediately jump to the conclusion that this is what I meant.

You claiming that Rito parodies disabled people or ban people for being disabled would be closer to a conspiracy theory. See, Riot punishes people for breaking rules. Does OP have Tourette's syndrome? That's all well and good but anyone can claim "I'm bipolar", "I have autism", "I have Tourette's syndrome", etc. Without any evidence, those claims are meaningless.

geekloveOct 17, 20181 votes

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Does OP have Tourette's syndrome? That's all well and good but anyone can claim "I'm bipolar", "I have autism", "I have Tourette's syndrome", etc. Without any evidence, those claims are meaningless.

Based on that sort of attitude Riot shouldn't have a colorblind mode. None of the players that asked for it had to prove it.

Perhaps you'd like to show me how Riot accommodates people with mental illness? Oh right, they don't. That's not a conspiracy theory, despite your comments about flat earthers.

FemalesAreLesserOct 17, 20181 votes

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geekloveOct 18, 20181 votes

I'm 100% serious. But where I live people with disabilities are protected by the law and have rights. They deserve the same dignity and respect as everyone else.

I'm really not sure why it bothers you that people with disabilities have rights. Are you mad every time you see an accessible parking spot or someone with a personal support worker? Does it bother you that people with service animals are allowed in restaurants or supermarkets?

"Snowflake"? So you don't actually have any sort of counterpoint as to why this game should be made more accessible and all you can do is resort to childish name calling. Though I get it, LoL is a game and therefore there's heaps of uneducated children like you. Based on your view of what a "snowflake" is, anyone who speaks out against racism or sexism must be a "snowflake" too.

I find it quite disturbing that so many people in LoL's community hate disabled people.

FemalesAreLesserOct 23, 20181 votes

Not the disabled, just you.

FemalesAreLesserOct 23, 20181 votes

And i feel if they added something specific for anyone who has a problem in their life, then the game would turn into a SJW Cesspool. if say any of the disorders you listed cause you to be negative in game, then they should be held accountable. REGARDLESS of how severe it may be to them. its a video game, not a place where everyone gets therapy, or medication to protect them from said disabilities or others from being affected from them, and IF said disabilities ARE making a negative impact on other players like the OP, then they should be handled like any other regular player. Edit: is this a better reply or opinion? does this count?

FemalesAreLesserOct 23, 20181 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/RFiM453y-turrets-syndrome?comment=0006 this guy puts it into a much better phrasing too, for how i think of any of this.