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Jose Esposito··6 votes·763 views

So played a game as kayn today and was with a 4 man pre-made. I called jungle and picked kayn fair and square but one of them wanted kayn but after i picked him he just kept saying fuck you and calling me a %%%got so i ignored him and locked in. He picked lee and took smite and so did our zed and they took my red then lee kept taking my camps. All i said in game is below and after i reported him for griefing then i logged on later to a 14 day suspension. do you guys think i deserved this? i'm almost never toxic unless super frustrated but even then i normally mute and keep playing.

Game 1 Jose Esposito: you know, i woulda gave him to you if you didnt keep calling me a %%%got and sayin fuck oyu Jose Esposito: i Jose Esposito: i didnt untuil after you kept calling me %%%got Jose Esposito: i was gonna give him to you if you asked for him Jose Esposito: please report lee and zed for stealing my camps Jose Esposito: i called jungle and the person who wanted to play him kept calling me %%%got so i locked in instead of giving it to hom Jose Esposito: lee counter with me Jose Esposito: you know im willing to give you camps if you wanna counter with me Jose Esposito: dude stop being so toxic, im talking to lle Jose Esposito: lee Jose Esposito: sorry i just lkike toxic players Jose Esposito: and your names are easy to mix up Jose Esposito: lol im never toxic Jose Esposito: please report lee Jose Esposito: lol i did nmothing Jose Esposito: all i did was call jungle them pick kayn and he was calling me %%%got the whole time so i jept kayn Jose Esposito: but he meant it in an offensive way Jose Esposito: not doing too bad veig Jose Esposito: damn Jose Esposito: wow so rude Jose Esposito: yeah rammus too much Jose Esposito: gg

21 Comments

Shadòw3 votes

welcome to riot's automatic ban system

Ophilus3 votes

Yeah riot EMPLOYEES care very little for random players who get f#%# over with the current report system, it literally counts report , if you get enough you'll just get banned or chat restricted . They say it only counts toxicness but they're all sensetive so saying something like "report" once in the game will probably trigger the entire player support department and system.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

This happens occasionally. Riot has a zero tolerance policy for hate speech, and the word that appears censored in those logs definitely counts. I get that you're repeating what he/she said to you, but that doesn't justify the usage of the language. Often trolls will try to bait others into using that language so they can report them -- since, again, zero tolerance means zero tolerance.

You can try submitting a ticket to Player Support, but I suspect you'll get the same answer.

On the positive side, it doesn't seem like you're that problematic otherwise, so, while your account will be on thin ice for a bit, I don't think you'll have much trouble getting it back to normal standing. That said, I'd suggest keeping conversations of who you're reporting to yourself -- a single report has as much weight as nine, and it often tends to make chat more negative if you mention reporting in general.

Jose Esposito2 votes

Yeah i get that and i figured using that word is the reason since its an automated system but reading the context and since he was saying even worse stuff to me and i only said it explaining to the enemy team when they kept saying to report me yet they wouldnt even say why. I also thinks its dumb to get a 14 day suspension for your first offence. Even if you watch the game i was still a team player and didnt troll and tried to help my team win

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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Yeah i get that and i figured using that word is the reason since its an automated system but reading the context and since he was saying even worse stuff to me and i only said it explaining to the enemy team when they kept saying to report me yet they wouldnt even say why. I also thinks its dumb to get a 14 day suspension for your first offence. Even if you watch the game i was still a team player and didnt troll and tried to help my team win

The thing is that you could easily have said "you were using rude language" or "he's using slurs" without repeating the word. Something to keep in mind for the future.

Jose Esposito3 votes

yeah. I still think it's excessive to get a 14 day suspension when I've been playing for over 3 years and this is my first offence

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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yeah. I still think it's excessive to get a 14 day suspension when I've been playing for over 3 years and this is my first offence

Yeah, I get that that can be frustrating. As stated though, Riot has a zero tolerance policy on that sort of language, and behaviors they consider unacceptable to that extent (feeding, encouraging self-harm, and hate speech) earn immediate 14-day bans once confirmed. You, unfortunately, seem to have been baited into getting caught in the system.

Jose Esposito1 votes

I still think it's odd since i have a friend who does have issues with being toxic and he's said that same thing i said and way worse and only got a 3-day suspension. then repeated to do it and only got a 7-day. This was a couple months ago too

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jose Esposito,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PpHBkTvB,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-13T23:38:57.604+0000)

I still think it's odd since i have a friend who does have issues with being toxic and he's said that same thing i said and way worse and only got a 3-day suspension. then repeated to do it and only got a 7-day. This was a couple months ago too

I don't quite believe that, since the only punishments are a 10-game chat restriction, a 25-game chat restriction, a 14-day ban, and a permanent ban. This has been the case for several years. Unless you're referring to a Boards ban on his account, which can be different?

Jose Esposito1 votes

No I mean an in-game. I was just looking and there was a 3-day and 7-day ban but i guess its gone now

JlackBesus2 votes

thats why the system is fucking retarded

Telephone Booth2 votes

Just another side effect of a PC culture. You are collateral damage. But hey, we gotta protect feelings right? Sadly, all these weight we put on words is having the opposite effect. School shootings, suicides... it's because were telling kids these words hurt and they're terrible. So when a kid is called these words, he thinks omg that is supposed to hurt bad and it's so terrible, they aren't supposed to say those things! So they feel a lot more pain, than say in the 70s where bullying was just as prominent, and sometimes more brutal. Yet suicide rates were much lower when "sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me".

Why does no one make this correlation? It's so fucking obvious. It's sickening to see the direction this world is going into and Riots policies and your banning is just a byproduct of it.

SnakDatSmilesBak1 votes

because it's a ridiculous correlation

TheViper79111 votes

If someone uses hate speech, it is best not to repeat it.

Jose Esposito1 votes

Yeah i'll know for next time. Since the only time i said it i was quoting him and explaining to the enemy team i hope riot lifts or at least lessens it. i'd be totally fine with a 25 game chat restriction

Finn Teh Human1 votes

I'd keep sending a ticket to Riot because if this is exactly what had been said and you said nothing to him in return that involved hate speech I 100% believe you shouldn't be banned at all.

Jose Esposito1 votes

yeah i shouldn't but its an automated system anjd im still waiting to hear from riot for my ticket

Finn Teh Human1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jose Esposito,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PpHBkTvB,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-07-14T06:10:09.854+0000)

yeah i shouldn't but its an automated system anjd im still waiting to hear from riot for my ticket

Keep sending an e-mail until you get a person.

Scary Door1 votes

If what you have posted is accurate then you shouldn't be banned.

Automated systems are lame, it's that simple.

However, I will say that far too often people come to this forum and don't tell us the full story, so I'm wondering if your'e leaving out any other details.

Jose Esposito1 votes

I get that and i guess all i can give is my word but this is what happend and all i said

Gaxoo1 votes

Riot have invented an ingenious system in which you risk your account every time you communicate with your team! The best way to be "honorable" is to never type anything into that chat bar.

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