I just got my first punishment ever on that account and I instantly got 2 weeks ban on that account. I agree I was toxic and I blame it on myself, but that's not the point. My other friends who were toxic before got chat restrictions for 10, 25 games and then 2 weeks, after that a permban. Is this intended? Or is the system bugged?
RiotRiot Tantram12 votesChat restrictions do exist.
They are the lightest form of penalty. An escalation schedule exists that will increase the severity of penalties for players who constantly get them. However, that does not mean that the first penalty every player gets is a chat restriction.
Is this intended? Or is the system bugged?
It is intended. Please do be aware that the next penalty after a 14-day ban, without showing sufficient reform, is a permanent ban.
SirLime6 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PVEOEOcE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-13T19:47:59.019+0000)
Chat restrictions do exist.
They are the lightest form of penalty. An escalation schedule exists that will increase the severity of penalties for players who constantly get them. However, that does not mean that the first penalty every player gets is a chat restriction.
It is intended. Please do be aware that the next penalty after a 14-day ban, without showing sufficient reform, is a permanent ban.
That seems excessive without any prior warning. At least show a warning when someone gets reported frequently (unless they're false reports) or SOME form of feedback. If you're going to be that harsh on mere words, it would be MUCH more helpful for game health to focus that energy on people intentionally trolling in-game, inting, afking etc.
Drugoth1 votesAs far as I'm aware, you do get feedback from the system when you've been reported.
SirLime4 votesAs far as I'm aware, you do get feedback from the system when you've been reported.
Nope. The first warning is already a punishment (like a chat restriction or suspension) which reduces honor and possibly season rewards..
FightORFlight2 votesNope. The first warning is already a punishment (like a chat restriction or suspension) which reduces honor and possibly season rewards..
let me ask you... you've been banned for 14 days which suggests severe violation... would a pop-up saying to cool it down actually work on you?
SpeedVolume2 votesActually it would for me. I didn't feel like I was really that toxic, and I got 2 weeks banned as the first punishment ever after 2 games. It shows only 2 games and the first one is like a month old and the second one is like from 3 games before I actaully got banned. It would because it would've told me I should calm down and that I'm close to a restriction. Probs would stop me from playing when I was tilted.
bobbybalboa2 votesya system is a joke. whether riot employees think so or not. It does help, but you can get chat restrict from saying absolutely nothing like my most recent experience
SirLime4 voteslet me ask you... you've been banned for 14 days which suggests severe violation... would a pop-up saying to cool it down actually work on you?
I haven't been banned but I did get a chat restriction on a new account without using profanity, racial slurs, homophobic remarks, ad hominems etc. or anything of the nature. It was mainly just a disagreement about champion viability and apparently that's not allowed on here. I NEVER received ANY warning. The first thing was a chat restriction for 10 games and the "evidence" was complete BS. Even totally out of context so as to make me look crazy and angry, it still seemed like complete BS. People control what you can say if they don't like it even if you are not objectively being rude about it. However, that's not what's under discussion now. You do NOT get any warning prior to punishment as the game is now and you also never get any notification of having been reported for any game.
9Wly9oMl021 votesYou do get warned. It's called the ToS lol.
SavageConcordia2 votesThat seems excessive without any prior warning.
**This **is the warning. Ultimately, everything builds to Permabans and, as such, everything before is a warning. Depending on the severity of the behavior determines the severity of the warning.
ModPeriscope1 votesI don't see how one needs a warning for hate speech or feeding. Do you honestly think people need warnings telling players "that's bad, don't do it again or..."?
Zaylee1 votesI got banned 2 times a few months after each other for 2 weeks each and I was really toxic but now I'm reformed and I talk nicely in chat and I don't cuss or flame and I'm friendly now. Now I don't plan to fall off the wagon but if I did is it without a doubt perma for me ?
RiotRiot Tantram6 votesNo. You can certainly get your account back into good status.
Zaylee3 votesSo it's possible that if I'm in good status it will reset my rating as if I'd never been banned?
ModPeriscope1 votesAbsolutely.
RiotRiot Tantram7 votesCorrect
Rey del Teto2 votesI was playing more or less in a good behaviour last 2 months, playing 2 or 3 games/day (sometimes 0, sometimes much more, you know), today I was toxic and I got banned (it's ok i deserved it*[zombie-brand-facepalm]* ), I though i was getting better on rating during this 2 months.... I read that it depends of players situation,anyway might there is a maximum time/games.
-How much time/games can it take maximum? (Is the same for get again rewards/improved rating enough for don't permaban?) -Is there any notification about your increased rating? -Being a passive player (/muteall) is useful too in this?
I'm conscious of permaban so I would like to know how to avoid it because I wasn't toxic until a year ago.
It would be a pity lose all those hours spent because of my rage in some games
Thx
SpeedVolume1 votesSo what about rewards at the end of the season? Am I still eligible?
bobbybalboa1 votesgetting chat restricted just because a big group reported you, is stupid. They were the most toxic people ive ever seen and i got in trouble for nothing .zz
RiotRiot Tantram4 votesMultiple reports don't do anyone more than a single report.
AnataBakka1 voteshm.... i have stories with friends that were banned because they were reported by a premade team enemy. Did they not know what they were talking about?
Kei1431 votesSome of the people whom are mildly toxic don't realise that they are toxic, even when given the chat logs.
So their only explanation they can think of is to blame it on "how crappy the system is" instead of looking to change themselves.
Sardonic Sloth1 voteshm.... i have stories with friends that were banned because they were reported by a premade team enemy. Did they not know what they were talking about?
Those stories were just downright them not even knowing that 1 report and 9 reports does the exact same thing.
ModThe Djinn6 votesChat restrictions still exist. Certainly behaviors, however -- usually intentionally feeding, use of hate speech, or encouragements to self-harm -- typically earn escalated punishments due to the zero tolerance policies Riot has in place for those behaviors.
If you have your chat logs we can help you find the specific bits that might have been an issue in your punishment.
SpeedVolume1 votesI obviously deserved it, but I have been banned before on my previous accounts.
This is an account that I have never been restricted before - and because I got instantly banned for 2 weeks, whilst on the previous accounts I was banned/restricted before - it gave me 2 chat restrictions <10 and 25 games> before actually banning for 2 weeks. It happened to a few of my friends too after the honor system was added. What's up with it? Why am I not restricted instead of being banned?
ModThe Djinn2 votes{quoted}What's up with it? Why am I not restricted instead of being banned?
As I said, certain behaviors can cause escalated punishments. We'd need to see your chat logs to see if that behavior is present.
Barkhoof1 votesGenerally, statements like "kill yourself", other statements inciting harm to others, or use of homophobic or racist slurs can get you an escalated ban. If any of that showed up, especially something that's going to get converted to %%%s in the chat filter, it's likely the reason for skipping a tier.
This Is Your Dad1 votesprevious accounts I was banned/restricted before - it gave me 2 chat restrictions <10 and 25 games> before actually banning for 2 weeks
This does not help your cause. I get that it's a new account and a new you, but you're telling me that after getting other accounts banned you still do things that get you punished? Something's off with your assessment of yourself. I don't think you'd change your behavior with a warning based on these factors.
Gaxoo2 votesWe will all be permabanned eventually. The level of goody-two-shoes required to maintain a "good standing" is far too high for anyone.
TrulyBland1 votesHow do you explain all the people who have played the game since release and haven't even gotten as much as a warning? How do you explain the many many people who have been punished and managed to reform back to good standing (which is way harder than maintain a good standing)
FightORFlight1 votes1st you get the "You've been acting unsportsmanlike" warning in your client then there are chat restrictions and ultimately ban... Ofc if you tell someone to hurt himself or other severe violations of riot policies those "light" forms of punishments are skipped and it's good to be so
EDIT: Also prolonged queue but i guess that doesn't apply for flaming
SirLime3 votes1st you get the "You've been acting unsportsmanlike" warning in your client then there are chat restrictions and ultimately ban... Ofc if you tell someone to hurt himself or other severe violations of riot policies those "light" forms of punishments are skipped and it's good to be so
EDIT: Also prolonged queue but i guess that doesn't apply for flaming
You do not get the unsportsmanlike error or any other. You used to but now the first thing that happens is a chat restriction (yes, on a new account).
Also, I found that error inaccurate. It should have been "Some players find you to be unsportsman etc.." instead of pretending it's bestowing you with infallible truth from the gods.
Gaxoo1 votesYou'd have to first prove that these people exist. But assuming they do, the only explanation is that they never enter chat at all. Riot loves it when people never talk to the team.