Why is it "always" the jg fault?

Proxknight·4/12/2016, 7:12:36 AM·3 votes·1,537 views

One thing i have a hard time dealing with is some players toxicity towards others. I find it sad that if a player isn't doing well it's always their jungles fault. Not them over extending, or poor decision choices on engages they will most definitely lose. I mean some players are just hard to deal with. Maybe i should get used to using the mute button i find that i play worse because I'm too wrapped about people flaming at me. Sorry just a small rant about some players.

11 Comments

Kei1434/12/2016, 4:11:00 PM2 votes

cos blame the support era is gone. someone has to take the baton.

Fushumang4/12/2016, 9:32:37 AM2 votes

I have to say that some people do not know how to jungle. Its a very skilled role to play. Now what makes a good jungle is a good team. They have to have MAP AWARENESS I cant stress that enough. Not to mention a lot of people don't like to call MIA's or PING I have had several games as Jungle where I have been ganked in my jungle because mid came in with their jungle while MID stayed farming an never Pinged. An it doesn't just happen once usually. The way I handle it is report them for intentionally feeding because its the LANES JOB To communicate by PINGS or Calling MIA in chat Now I have also had lanes just FEED an then try to blame it on me as the jungle but they fed before I even cleared BLUE BUFF camp on RED team. I have also had players that just want to sit an farm creeps when you come to gank instead of helping them when you die because they refused to engage an you ask them why they didn't engage they start cussing you out. That's when I refuse to gank for them ever again. Is that the best answer probably not but not worth dying if they wont even fight to maintain their lane.

Not to mention this ADC jungle people are trying to do is rather disgusting When i jungle I pray on them an usually end up wreaking Jungle. Unfortunately the game is not what it once was. People are rather toxic an think they are MASTER when in fact they are unranked or Bronze 5. Not to mention the severe lack of ward placement. I don't know how many SUPPORTS I see that do not ward. Wards are free especially with item 3340 . Wards win games hands down. As a jungle you don't always have room to build item 3711 I know I don't use it as a jungler I use for wards an expect my lanes to ward if they don't then I try to place my wards in key spots. The fact is most players these days don't understand the importance of wards. They keep everyone safe especially at key gank points. I have even showed my wife how to ward the brush on BOT lane without touching river when your on RED team/TOP.

Try not to take the toxic people who refuse to ward to heart.

Denavai4/12/2016, 9:40:54 AM2 votes

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One thing i have a hard time dealing with is some players toxicity towards others. I find it sad that if a player isn't doing well it's always their jungles fault. Not them over extending, or poor decision choices on engages they will most definitely lose. I mean some players are just hard to deal with. Maybe i should get used to using the mute button i find that i play worse because I'm too wrapped about people flaming at me. Sorry just a small rant about some players.

I know the feels. Just had a game where my team attempted to tilt me in chat; Reported them, but still. If they wern't such crap I would've easily carried the game; Instead I ended up 0/3 cause they wouldn't assist dragon after I ganked their lane or they fed first b cause they decide to engage before I can reach them.... The reality of it is. It's only the junglers fault if he's not ganking when creating ganks for jungle under defensive turret for more then 30 seconds. If they fed 0/3 before doing this then its not your fault that lane can kill you.

redniwediS4/12/2016, 7:44:19 AM2 votes

Jungle is viewed as a role that is supposed to help all lanes, so if you're doing poorly and are one of those people who blame others it is, of course, the fault of the guy who is supposed to help you.

CreamyManCandy4/13/2016, 12:08:20 AM2 votes

#JustJunglerThings

Sertoriuss4/12/2016, 4:45:27 PM1 votes

Well i just faced a maokai top lane who kept on getting camped by his jungler and at the end i was 1/8 because i couldnt do anything he was overall a better player sure.My jungler ignored me.I begged him to gank and then when i was 1/8 he said u are too bad and i wont gank you.Its just dumb

DrCyanide4/12/2016, 4:43:24 PM1 votes

Some people will blame whoever they think is doing worse (or as bad) as them.

I had a ranked game where our 0/13/0 Poppy Top blame their performance on our 5/7/6 Pantheon ADC's CSing. Not his KDA, not getting his enemy laner fed, his ability to CS against a ranged opponent....

As for Jungler's specifically, I think some get blame because it feels like they're doing nothing. I see way too many Junglers trying to go Sated but who have no idea how to stack it, avoiding Scuttle Crab and Dragons like the plague and generally being useless in a game that was looking upside down before they even bought their Devourer. The problem is made all the worse when the enemy Jungler is visibly doing something.

Sometimes it's a problem with tunnel vision, but sometimes it's a problem of different expectations from different Junglers. For Supports, if they ward and either set up kills or deny kills, they're doing their job. No one besides the ADC expects help from the Support early either. Contrast that to Junglers, where some Junglers will gank your lane 7 times in the first 5 minutes of the game, some will pressure objectives like a man possessed, others will AFK farm the jungle until the game is lost, some provide damage, some provide utility, etc.

While you as the Jungler expect someone to know you're not ganking until 6, I think some people expect you to know that the matchup they're in is hard and not going well, and for you to help them. Not really saying which is right or wrong, but I think as easily as you can defend the Jungler for not ganking you could defend the laner needing the gank.