Perma-Banned for telling someone to stop being racist

chagans·Nov 18, 2018·1 votes·1,598 views

Game 1 In-Game chagans: deleted chagans: yep chagans: youre dead too dumbass chagans: he followed you chagans: jesus christ chagans: you engaged on them chagans: good lord youre slow chagans: dont say that word, youre white chagans: u seem toxic tal chagans: ? chagans: ok chagans: shut up tal, youre a toxic racist chagans: tal, you clearly seem like the toxic one and like youre lying chagans: im just reporting both of you and riot will decide chagans: so its fair chagans: stop talking chagans: thats why bans happen moron chagans: yes i do chagans: jesus you are toxic chagans: drav is prolly right chagans: jesus christ well now youre getting banned lmao chagans: no tal chagans: she just said n word in all chat with no remorse chagans: lmao chagans: how toxic chagans: such a racist chagans: yep chagans: keep saying it chagans: im reporting yasuo and tal chagans: yep, so racist chagans: have fun not playing this game for a while chagans: youre racist, so i feel bad for you chagans: i dont think im good ahahah chagans: you guys are just arcist assholes chagans: racist chagans: im white chagans: keep going please chagans: the more reportable things you do chagans: the more toxic chagans: you are chagans: the harder the ban xd chagans: yes chagans: thank you chagans: spam more chagans: be more racist please chagans: riot will love to see it chagans: nope, but the report bots do chagans: and theyre trash and ban without any thought chagans: im reporting tal and yasuo chagans: so yes, reports chagans: bc youre toxic and racist chagans: both of you chagans: obvi tal is outrageously both chagans: yes it is? chagans: and xd chagans: i dont want racist toxic assholes in my game chagans: ggwp chagans: reported Post-Game chagans: keep going please chagans: more stuff to report you for chagans: look at the ToS on this game chagans: theyre allowed to limit your speech ahahah chagans: youre so clueless chagans: enjoy ban, ggs guys chagans: brand im definitely reporting lmao chagans: sorry draven haha

Yes, this is the chat log from the game. Yes, I swore in it. Yes, I realize I didn't need to swear. BUT ARE WE SERIOUS??? I get perma banned for telling someone to stop being racist? I would love to go back and watch the game to record it, but... 1.) I can't even log back in because I am perma banned 2.) Even if I could, I wouldn't be able to see chat logs. So, there is really nothing I can do except bring this to light that Riot's banning system is so utterly disgusting. The pure design of it is set up so poorly. Honestly, it needs a ton of revision. I want my account back, and I want an explanation as to why standing up to confront racism is deemed worthy of losing my account. I despise the way this game is run, seriously. How hard is it to set a few things up so that a person doesn't lose their account over LITERALLY BEING A GOOD PERSON. HAHAHA This is so sad, and I am so frustrated because now I have to restart all because I told a person to stop being a racist asshole. Good job Riot, you have truly outdone yourself this time. How pathetic.

I am expecting an explanation and my account back. If neither of these happen, well then this post will be out there for all to see how poorly designed this game is. Thanks for taking my account, again. Have a wonderful day. So sad.

30 Comments

rujitraNov 18, 201814 votes

You didn't tell someone to stop being racist.

You harassed them the entire game.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

chagansNov 18, 20181 votes

I wouldn't call that harassing. I would love to show you what they were saying to me. I said keep going because I know how poor this report system is, so I figured the more they say, the more likely they won't be playing this game again.

rujitraNov 18, 20187 votes

I encourage you to look up the meaning of the word harassment.

Please especially note the absence of any "it's okay if" sentences in the definition. Once again, you thinking it's okay doesn't make it not harassment.

And by the way, you seem to have a lot of evidence for the system working well. Given you've gone through multiple punishments.

chagansNov 18, 20181 votes

Stand up for racism, it's fine. I am done talking to people on this thread.

rujitraNov 18, 20187 votes

I have never said what the other player did was okay.

This thread is about your behavior. Not theirs.

Zombie GerbilNov 19, 20183 votes

You definitely did harass people. Retaliating is just as bad as initiating it.

DanksleyNov 19, 20181 votes

Racists deserve to be harassed until they literally start crying tbh.

If he doxxed the racist and posted their side of the chat logs on their facebook I wouldn't even really condemn it.

Imperial PandaaNov 18, 20189 votes

Yeah... Telling someone not to be racists wasn't the only thing you did.

chagansNov 18, 20181 votes

Ah, okay, but was what I did worthy of a perma ban? I don't believe so. And if you might, then we have very different views on this.

Imperial PandaaNov 18, 20186 votes

Worthy of a permaban? By itself, maybe not. The real question is, was it worthy of a punishment? You know how the system works: 10 game chat restrict 25 game chat restrict 14 day ban Perm ban.

Each punishment is a step up and taking a step down takes a long time. So if you had gotten to the 14 day ban, the nect step is perm.

chagansNov 18, 20181 votes

I understand that, and yes it was worthy of a punishment. My issue here is that I got tilted because of the sheer racism, so, I guess my issue with this whole topic is the fact that perma bans exist. It's such overkill for something not worthy of it.

Imperial PandaaNov 18, 20186 votes

Even a misdemeanor can become a felony with prior convictions.

chagansNov 18, 20181 votes

Okay, stand up for racism. I am done

Imperial PandaaNov 18, 20185 votes

And that isn't what I did.

AeroWaffleNov 18, 20186 votes

It looks like you spent almost the entire chat accusing them of being racist assholes, insulting them, gloating over the fact that you'll report them and that you believe they will be banned, and egging them on so that you have "more stuff to report you for".

If you create another account, next time just report them. Using the existence of the system to attack them over it in chat does not ensure that they will be banned fast, only that you place yourself in the firing line as well.

If you had a 14-day ban in the past few months I can see this being worth the perma-ban, since the next punishment after a 14-day ban will be a perma.

chagansNov 18, 20181 votes

Well, it's not accusing them if they blatantly call me among others in the game the N word multiple times now, is it?

And I don't feel like making another account to spend time on just for the chance for another thing like this to happen.

AeroWaffleNov 18, 20185 votes

Well, it's not accusing them if they blatantly call me among others in the game the N word multiple times now, is it?

It's still called an accusation regardless of the legitimacy of the accusation.

And I don't feel like making another account to spend time on just for the chance for another thing like this to happen.

It should have been remarkably easy to avoid this punishment. Instead of lines like this;

chagans: youre dead too dumbass ... chagans: shut up tal, youre a toxic racist chagans: tal, you clearly seem like the toxic one and like youre lying chagans: im just reporting both of you and riot will decide chagans: so its fair chagans: stop talking chagans: thats why bans happen moron

You just type this;

chagans:

And you wont get banned. A vast majority of your chat was just spent attacking someone else.

chagansNov 18, 20181 votes

Accusation - a charge or claim that someone has done something illegal or wrong

Claim - state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof

Right...

AeroWaffleNov 18, 20184 votes

See that "t" word in there? It's synonymous with "usually", as in not always.

chagansNov 18, 20181 votes

Okay, continue to stand up for racism. I am done trying.

AeroWaffleNov 18, 20184 votes

This isn't a zero-sum punishment system. The only thing your punishment is based on is your own behavior. Their punishment is based on their behavior. Both parties in your little spat in that game can be punished for their behavior.

chagansNov 18, 20181 votes

Yes, stand up for racism.

AeroWaffleNov 18, 20183 votes

I thought you were done talking to people in this thread?

chagansNov 18, 20181 votes

Continue to stand up for racism, that is all.

Arcade LuluNov 18, 20185 votes

And this ban could've been easily avoided if you just muted them and reported them after the game [sg-lulu]

chagansNov 18, 20181 votes

Sorry for wanting to tell a racist to shut the fuck up. I don't take the issue light-heartedly.

Arcade LuluNov 18, 20183 votes

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Sorry for wanting to tell a racist to shut the fuck up. I don't take the issue light-heartedly.

There's a difference between telling them to stop and being toxic

you were toxic sweetie

DanksleyNov 19, 20181 votes

Yeah but if dude actually dropped N___ he deserved it. Hope he is doxxed and logs posted to his employer tbh.

ooNerOooNov 19, 20182 votes

Its harassment bud, she said hate speech, great. mute her, don't argue with her. report after the game. simple rules to follow yet you decided to harass and get into an argument with another player. thus violating the summoner code. my opinion, never do this again. if someone is being racist, report and mute them, simple I'm assuming you got suspended not too long ago, therefore you were on riot watchlist 1 game which you get reported enough times is an instant permaban.

TL;DR: Just mute the toxic player, report, and move on.

McsquzzyNov 19, 20181 votes

holy hell, where did you find the time to play with how much time you spent arguing with this guy.

but yeah very common if you look at other chat logs here they will either A. something riot clearly stated will result in a ban. or B. they are long chat logs for a game