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Banned for replying to premade flamers who flooded chat with bm/toxicity

Fylgia··1 votes·1,702 views
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I'm sick of this, because of Riot's Nazi automated system the second you reply you get chat banned. I don't want to be one of the people, but is this chat not fairly tame? The worst I said was they were sad & bad for flaming and bming a group with someone dced from the start. It's like these trolls just troll to get you to respond and then mass report you, and Riot's automated system apparently sees it fit to keep flamers lvl 30+ with ~800 wins going on, it's not like they're smurfs not roughed up by the system yet.

EVERY game I have just muted & reported these people because we get them EVERY game, the second the enemy team wins they just outright flame and trash-talk. And the one game I give a bit back in a mild way I get instantly banned. This is the ONLY chat log that led to my ban post-suspension. I was suspended a few months ago and have been watching my behavior, but in Riot's system it thinks one bad game in a few months=insta ban but apparently these guys play thousands of matches with their toxic behavior. I just don't get it, it's infuriating to play against these people and get punished for taking one jab at 3 people flooding chat with insults and curses from minute 1.

37 Comments

RPK9KM4K4A6 votes

It always baffles me when I see chat logs THAT LONG in a single game, almost as if you play the game NOT to play the game itself but to bicker/argue with other people.

Fylgia1 votes

This was about a 30 minute match and roughly 50% of this chat was team-chat

Lothàrs Edge1 votes

It's alright. Don't try convincing these teenage perfections into thinking that you're just another human being. We're toxic. The most toxic people alive and we deserve every punishment doled out by anyone. (;

FurriesAreHot5 votes

I wasn't aware that riot burned Jew babies and slaughtered thousands of Jews.

redniwediS4 votes

Fairly tame compared to what? Everything is fairly tame compared to death threats.

But compared to a sportsmanlike player this isn't great. I can definitely see why you would be punished for it.

Fylgia1 votes

By using the word sad and bad I should be permabanned but toxicity runs rampant in every game. This game's Nazi system is so hypocritical. You think you would be deserving of a perma ban for using those words against flamers?

redniwediS8 votes

Actually it's for doing stuff like asking them to AFK, and asking for reports.

Next time you should read up on what the rules are before you go out and break them.

Fylgia1 votes

One of our teammates had disconnected and was out for the entire match. There is no rule against either of those and another of our players was already idling in fountain. The rules are incredibly vague and there is nothing against asking for a ff and to report people flaming and cursing in all chat. Mind quoting me where it says not to do so?

MeilinII7 votes

Riot considers asking for reports harassment and an intimidation tactic (both of which are against The Summoner's Code) for 2 main reasons: 1: There is no point because reports are PER GAME not PER REPORT so 1 report in a game is the same as 9 2: It's used to threaten and shame players who may not have done anything

As for asking for surrenders, the Summoner's Code says to try to win and not be negative, so if you're asking for surrenders REPEATEDLY, that's toxic.

Both those are also mentioned here: Behavior worthy of a Champion Look under "Do not be that guy" and look at the pic

Fylgia1 votes

Why does it not say this clearly in the rules then? Why do we have vague walls of text which Riot has to extrapolate on in forums which aren't right in the rules?

And no, asking to reporting someone who just said something extremely toxic in all chat is not shaming, it's using the system as its intended.

As for surrendering, asking for a ff is not toxic and what? 2 times? is not bad especially in the scenario we have a leaver and afker.

This is all just Riot Nazi logic, anything and everything can be determined to be toxic if not overly positive and their rules are vague--go actually read them because it's all moral walls of text and not clearly defined rules e.g. do not ask for reports or surrenders

MeilinII7 votes

It's in the rules, you're just being whiny now. The TOS states you must follow the Code. The code says don't be an asshole. You're a jerk. Ban deserved. You don't want to know why you were banned, you just wanna be salty, lol.

Fylgia1 votes

And here's my problem with the league community. It's Riot toe-suckers like you who break the rules themselves and then say other people deserve punishment. You didn't read anything of what I said because the summoner's code is INCREDIBLY vague and leads to people like you and me deciding what is and isn't against the rules as opposed to them. And now, you've called me an asshole, a jerk, and salty which is definitely toxic.

How you can bow down and worship a system that would ban you is beyond me, it's downright pathetic

MeilinII7 votes

Do tell, what rule have I broken in game? Oh right, none. XD The Code is not vague, you just have no morals so you think being a jerk is okay. ^_^

Fylgia1 votes

Actually I just reported you on the forums for breaking the TOS you were just explaining

And no, I have morals but I don't break them, unlike you, whom while explaining them to me breaks them and then tries to save face. My advice; grow up

MeilinII7 votes

Boards rules are different than in-game rules, friend. ^_~

Fylgia1 votes

I imagine there is a rule against basic toxicity

I suggest you read them before speaking about them :)

MeilinII7 votes

I have read them, but please go find the one I'm breaking.[slayer-jinx-catface]

Fylgia1 votes

I imagine there is a rule against basic toxicity

I suggest you read them before speaking about them :)

And don't worry, because you're downvoting my comments in a 1 on 1 discussion it's hilarious. You don't argue with someone by clicking a button and making smiley faces while your arguments fall flat

It's exactly this kind of egotistical and toxic behavior that you're arguing against

Void Nargacuga4 votes

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Fylgia1 votes

Reddit is that way friend

I'm crying by having a discussion just like you

just further proof as to how incredibly immature this community is lmao

Void Nargacuga4 votes

Its called owning up to your mistakes. It does wonders. I've been playing for a YEAR now and haven't even had single 10 game chat restriction. Why? I'm not a jerk to the other players. Also I don't even have a Reddit account I'd rather listen to music like this on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX_pAjMmHoU

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BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Actually I just reported you on the forums for breaking the TOS you were just explaining

This doesn't make any sense. Are you trying to do this one tactic where you counter-argue people with their own words?

And no, I have morals but I don't break them, unlike you, whom while explaining them to me breaks them and then tries to save face. My advice; grow up

MeilinII never got punished, so he didn't break any rules. You on the other hand did, and got punished.

Seriously, are you tilted here til you spat out random stuff everywhere?

archerno12 votes

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Why does it not say this clearly in the rules then? Why do we have vague walls of text which Riot has to extrapolate on in forums which aren't right in the rules?

And no, asking to reporting someone who just said something extremely toxic in all chat is not shaming, it's using the system as its intended.

As for surrendering, asking for a ff is not toxic and what? 2 times? is not bad especially in the scenario we have a leaver and afker.

This is all just Riot Nazi logic, anything and everything can be determined to be toxic if not overly positive and their rules are vague--go actually read them because it's all moral walls of text and not clearly defined rules e.g. do not ask for reports or surrenders

System is intended to be used personally. You are supposed to use report because you think someone broke rules. Not because someone told you to do so. Trying to pressure others into reporting someone Is harassment. Only 1 report per game counts, so asking others is pointless and is done to create more negativity. There is no other reason( unless you made many fake reports in the past so your reports are worthless now, but there is no way for u to know whether your reports are discarded or not) .

DefNotABot5 votes

Do you think riot employees sit there with their hands pressed against the keyboard looking for an excuse to ban hammer people? Of course not. If you were permabanned, you clearly had a history of toxicity. Riot doesn't permaban you for one bad game. I've had plenty of bad games where I've just bitched people out and I haven't gotten in trouble yet. Point is. If you were permabanned for toxicity then you clearly earned it.

Fylgia1 votes

This system leaves no room for improvement then. You want someone who has had bad behavior in the past to be instantly banned for 1 chat log that is tame.

No, the system is automated and that's exactly the problem because it thinks an insane variety of words are instantly toxic. I have tons of friends who testify that they say small tidbits of toxicity and never get punished, but because I have been in the past I will be smacked down instantly for any little thing and that prohibits any sort of recovery

Void Nargacuga6 votes

You had 3 other chances to change:

  1. 10 game chat restriction
  2. 25 game chat restriction
  3. 14 day ban

If you don't improve your behavior after all that... There is a problem.

DefNotABot6 votes

Riot is not your therapist. They're not your parole officer. They have no obligation to reform you nor do they hold responsibility for your actions. Keep in mind, while there IS an automated system, bans are not given out unless a riot employee specifically goes through your logs and determines you are guilty. That being said, you should be apologizing to the people working at riot because they have to take time out of their day to read your toxicity because you couldn't control your temper on the internet.

I also want to point out that riot does not ban you from the start. They start with chat restrictions and other warnings. If you can't get the hint that you're getting close to being banned then that's on you. And now you have the gall to come onto the forums and act like you're some victim when the vast majority of the playerbase have never even been punished in their lives. If the millions of people that play this game can play it without being punished, maybe it's not the "nazi system" that riot has. Maybe it's YOU.

GodKing Thumper1 votes

There's plenty of room for improvement. You know every tier of punishment BEFORE you got permabanned? Those were your signals, and your chances to reform. You ignored them, and this, were banned from playing with the generally decent population of league.

Agent20903 votes

They will get their punishment eventually. The second you start to "give it back" you open yourself up to punishment as well. Doesn't matter if you were "defending yourself" or if it was, in your mind, "mild". None of that matters. What matters is if what you said is against the rules.

It was and so you got punished.

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

I would have said no, these isn't worth a chat restriction at all. Buuuut, then I saw that you're getting an e-boner over reporting others. You continue to bitch and bitch about the other team "bming you", yet you aren't intelligent enough to just mute. It makes you look like a dweeb and I agree with punishing you.

Also, this game didn't get you banned. 4 punishments get you banned. This was your 4th punishment.

FrankerX1 votes

"everyone report these losers, get them chatbanned" HEY IT WORKED :D

MasterSomething1 votes

Riot's Nazi automated system

By the power of Rito, I invoke Godwin's Law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

entitledplayer2 votes

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By the power of Rito, I invoke Godwin's Law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Don't use Wiki Links, use TvTropes's definition: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodwinsLaw

Fovere1 votes

Riot is trying to make everyone happy fluffy people, whether they like it or not.

 Having played since S1,  the tone of the game as improved dramatically. But taking the viewpoint that any negativity or criticism, or "unsportsmanlike conduct" is not merely bad, but punishable, is more or less insane.

 People used to accept a certain degree of banter/criticism/etc as part of the game, the lines were usually pretty clear as to what was ok and what wasn't.

 Now it seems anything not overtly friendly or super! fucking! positive! is considered punishable, which is nonsense. There's unpleasant, and there's harassment. Its usually pretty easy to tell which is which.
Anomander1 votes

Asking for reports and threatening reports is punishable.

The bottom line though is that you are responsible for your actions. It doesn't matter what they say or do you are still responsible for your choices.

Dingaia1 votes

the system is worthless, i get flamed literally every game, i immediately mute everyone in the game when i enter and i say one thing like 'next time rotate' or 'don't walk into unwarded jungle' and i'm chat banned for 25 games <3 I will never use the chat feature in this game again, i already turned off all chat, there should just be a remove chat from game option, it's the only thing I ever have problems with. you try to help teammates out and teach them and suddenly you're a flamer, or you get flamed by your teammates constantly but they never get in trouble, only you. I immediately report anyone using racial slurs and they get no punishment. System doesn't work. Just give up using chat feature. I implore you to remove it from the game entirely. I'm working on a mod that removes chat entirely for all of existence cause Riot is filled with bad overpaid programmers. I've seen better programming by amateur school kids in fifth grade.

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