Perma banned for a single insult while being the one that was insulted all game

Nagake·Oct 27, 2019·24 votes·10,602 views

Hello, i played many many games today with my friends, but yesterday i played a ranked game in which i was galio jungle cause the enemy team took 4 ap champions. I started doing the jungle camo alone because Zed our top laner was afk so i struggled to do the camps on my own and lost valuable time. As the game went on i was behind their jungler, zed was insulting me aswell as other teamates threatning to report me because i did not gank early, for obvious reasons. I got insulted much much more than i insulted anyone, i wrote a single insult at the end of the game that wasnt pointed at anyone but just a vent. I deserve a suspension, or even better a mute because of my foul language, but a perma ban while i was attacked? Heres the PERMA BAN worthy chat log i got Game 1 Pre-Game Nagake: they have 4 ap In-Game Nagake: ty for the help Nagake: expect the same amount back Nagake: for not getting help from zed ? Nagake: neither in jungle nor on drake ? Nagake: i expected 1 bit of help Nagake: from the team Nagake: but go ahead report me Nagake: its my fault Nagake: yeah, afk on start so i had to solo Nagake: indeed Nagake: cause no help from our dear zed Nagake: yep you were afk Nagake: :) Nagake: i took ap tank to counter their team but all help i got was report threats Nagake: we will lose like this Nagake: ty galio ? Nagake: most of you deserve to lose Nagake: ashe is good Nagake: lol yeah report me for zed being afk and not helping me start jungle and then ofc its my fault Nagake: brain damaged

88 Comments

0minousOct 27, 201922 votes

You got frustrated by your teammates behaving unfairly, being afk and blaming/threatening you. And typed one innocent insult in the end in order to vent out your frustration? You had a valid natural human reaction to something bad that has happened to you in game? How dare you.. you are a monster. You are the most baddest toxic man alive.

Jokes aside, it's really weird to have someone being perma banned for something like this, even banned in the first place. I would suggest to have this case manually checked and provide a proper punishment, if there is a punishment to give for this in the first place. Aren't people supposed to get muted for typing something offensive, rather than perma banned? I checked stats it doesn't seem like this player was inting or feeding either.

Tokishi7Oct 28, 20195 votes

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You got frustrated by your teammates behaving unfairly, being afk and blaming/threatening you. And typed one innocent insult in the end in order to vent out your frustration? You had a valid natural human reaction to something bad that has happened to you in game? How dare you.. you are a monster. You are the most baddest toxic man alive.

Jokes aside, it's really weird to have someone being perma banned for something like this, even banned in the first place. I would suggest to have this case manually checked and provide a proper punishment, if there is a punishment to give for this in the first place. Aren't people supposed to get muted for typing something offensive, rather than perma banned? I checked stats it doesn't seem like this player was inting or feeding either.

Riot won't do anything, I'll give you exact thing they probably said because an almost exact situation happened to me.

"I definitely get the frustration of a player deliberately ruining in your game, but that does not in any way change how its okay to use chat.

I understand you don't agree with our community standards here and that's totally fine, but we do hold all players to those standards even if they disagree with them.

If you have feedback about game or behavior systems that's cool, but player support doesn't handle things like making changes to the game - to pass that feedback on to those who do, the boards are your best bet."

"I know it really sucks to lose an account you obviously care a lot about. I take intentionally feeding and griefing very seriously and I will investigate the other players in your game and take action accordingly. Even if action is taken I will not be able to provide you with updates as that would be a breach in player privacy. Unfortunately, I don't really have the best of news for you but I will do my best to clarify your penalty and why you received it."

Been playing since Season 2, 0 ragequits in ranked, have never griefed in ranked, nor have I ever said kys, racial slurs, or really nailed someone. Always shit like, damn wish i had a gank, watch map, why aren't you buying pinks then, etc. Meanwhile, 0/15 players literally running it down are still running it down. This is a guy my friend had on his team for instance, https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Small+Sanctuary+, player was never banned because bad games? You will have to click see more to see what I am referring to

xDogMeatxOct 30, 20191 votes

why are there evil people like this? why arent they banned.

ZackTheWaffleManOct 31, 20191 votes

Such people are truly the scum of the earth.

Doofy The YamNov 7, 20192 votes

Ive only been banned from defending myself. You just really arent allowed to say anything. And the other summoner who was just being a bitch to you all game? yeah no punishment whatsoever. Thats riots system

Garen is adoptedOct 28, 20193 votes

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You got frustrated by your teammates behaving unfairly, being afk and blaming/threatening you. And typed one innocent insult in the end in order to vent out your frustration? You had a valid natural human reaction to something bad that has happened to you in game? How dare you.. you are a monster. You are the most baddest toxic man alive.

Jokes aside, it's really weird to have someone being perma banned for something like this, even banned in the first place. I would suggest to have this case manually checked and provide a proper punishment, if there is a punishment to give for this in the first place. Aren't people supposed to get muted for typing something offensive, rather than perma banned? I checked stats it doesn't seem like this player was inting or feeding either.

Welcome to 4 premade world, where no matter what happens or how hard they int they will always get you banned if you are not their slave for 35 min

Six Inch HealsOct 29, 20191 votes

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Welcome to 4 premade world, where no matter what happens or how hard they int they will always get you banned if you are not their slave for 35 min

I rarely encounter the issue in terms of toxicity, but my Honor Level (3.5) groups me with a lot of premades, and I'm trying to figure out why.

bestRyzoOct 27, 201918 votes

I remember a time when the tribunal could vote on cases like these. Definitely not perma ban worthy. You just hit the system's check mark for taking action by saying "brain damaged".

BlakeFoxOct 28, 201910 votes

Not perma ban worthy. I mean every single day people are way more rude and mean, saying swear words, or target cursing. Making fun of new players and threatening them to report them for not meeting their expectations. But he said “brain damaged” and has a perma ban? Okay but what about all those people? Who is perma banning them for their behavior?

jaimerOct 28, 201910 votes

ofc u shouldnt be banned, but dont expect for them to unban you. The system is completely flawed. Sorry.

NagakeOct 28, 20198 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jaime 69,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OPFfPY2u,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-10-28T00:24:25.402+0000)

ofc u shouldnt be banned, but dont expect for them to unban you. The system is completely flawed. Sorry.

No need to unban me, ill get them to delete my acount and will never have any contact with their games ever again. Thats the least i can do to retaliate

KFCeytronOct 29, 20192 votes

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No need to unban me, ill get them to delete my acount and will never have any contact with their games ever again. Thats the least i can do to retaliate

That's not retaliation; it's accommodation. It's like getting back at a former employer for firing you by refusing to come into work. This is literally what they would like you to do. The fact that you're doing it out of spite is telling.

NagakeOct 29, 20194 votes

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That's not retaliation; it's accommodation. It's like getting back at a former employer for firing you by refusing to come into work. This is literally what they would like you to do. The fact that you're doing it out of spite is telling.

Im doing it out of spite because the player that started that and said all kinds of insults that are way way way worse than what i said is playing even today. He was the one being toxic and mean aswell as trolling and hes in the game playing while im banned permanently for defending myself. It slike putting a person to jail for defending himself from an intruder, its wrong

OneMustFallOct 29, 20192 votes

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That's not retaliation; it's accommodation. It's like getting back at a former employer for firing you by refusing to come into work. This is literally what they would like you to do. The fact that you're doing it out of spite is telling.

Subpar analogy. An employee works for the company and the employer has to pay them when they work. A better analogy would be kicking a customer out of the store and the customer stating they will never go to that store again. Depending on the customer, that might be what the company wants but they also hurt their business if he spreads the word to not go to that store.

Pika FoxOct 28, 20199 votes

Their actions are irrelevant, your actions are the only ones that matter for your punishment. Given you were permad, this is not your first rodeo.

RayleighTTOct 28, 20195 votes

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Their actions are irrelevant, your actions are the only ones that matter for your punishment. Given you were permad, this is not your first rodeo.

you are funny ... , you don't know that you receive stronger punishments , even if you have 3 months of reformed behaviour without negativity , so do you asume that this guy really deserves to be permanent banned knowing this ??? , i tell you i haven't test... ,but you would need more than 5-6 months to reset your punishment level(because there is not a decreasing toxic level system to do that) ,which acording to what you say there , is kind of much to wait for having a chance to decrease your toxic level + if you get punished after 3-4 months , you again have to begin from 0 months to stay 6 months clean and don't be negative at all ,considering there are many reasons you can just loss your calm ... , there is no point to proof you anything else than the fact this current system abuse punishments and that if you are in the situation to loss your calm every 3+ months after tolerate hundreds of cases of flame and troll/grief against you and others from your game ,then i think is definetly an abuse the current system as it works... , because you do tolerate hundreds of cases of toxicity ,and if you respond after 3 months to 1 guy , you just get your punishment reset chances denyed ,that mean you have to start from 0 and be again 6+ months clean behaviour to reset your punishment level , which in this way , even if you do your best you can get to the situation you can be permanent banned for such cases , even if you don't deserve that because Riot have not implement a pro active system which lowers punishment during the high amounts of positivity and neutral behaviour... .

Pika FoxOct 28, 20194 votes

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you are funny ... , you don't know that you receive stronger punishments , even if you have 3 months of reformed behaviour without negativity , so do you asume that this guy really deserves to be permanent banned knowing this ??? , i tell you i haven't test... ,but you would need more than 5-6 months to reset your punishment level(because there is not a decreasing toxic level system to do that) ,which acording to what you say there , is kind of much to wait for having a chance to decrease your toxic level + if you get punished after 3-4 months , you again have to begin from 0 months to stay 6 months clean and don't be negative at all ,considering there are many reasons you can just loss your calm ... , there is no point to proof you anything else than the fact this current system abuse punishments and that if you are in the situation to loss your calm every 3+ months after tolerate hundreds of cases of flame and troll/grief against you and others from your game ,then i think is definetly an abuse the current system as it works... , because you do tolerate hundreds of cases of toxicity ,and if you respond after 3 months to 1 guy , you just get your punishment reset chances denyed ,that mean you have to start from 0 and be again 6+ months clean behaviour to reset your punishment level , which in this way , even if you do your best you can get to the situation you can be permanent banned for such cases , even if you don't deserve that because Riot have not implement a pro active system which lowers punishment during the high amounts of positivity and neutral behaviour... .

Too long, didnt read. Fact of the matter is them being provoked in no way matters. While i am against bans on principle, this person deserved a punishment, and given it was a perma, they ruined more than enough games before this.

Tokishi7Oct 28, 20193 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OPFfPY2u,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2019-10-28T18:09:42.910+0000)

Too long, didnt read. Fact of the matter is them being provoked in no way matters. While i am against bans on principle, this person deserved a punishment, and given it was a perma, they ruined more than enough games before this.

literally all it takes is someone to be a baby and victimize themselves. Idk if you've ever seen reports before, but it's strictly a tally basis.

0minousOct 28, 20193 votes

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PzyXoOct 28, 20195 votes

Bro! this dude is a Riot Premium Sucker, these people just get nothing but embarrassment, they just go into every social media and never do anything except defending Riot for stuck like umm, BUFFING KAI'SA!

Pika FoxOct 29, 20191 votes

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I've seen this Pika Fox person in other forums. Literally all they do is suck up to rito, so there is legit no good reason to argue with them. For what reason this player is doing that I don't know, maybe trying to farm upvotes? However it's a good ground basis to leave your logical opinions and arguments by replying to their bait posts.

Ive criticized riot multiple times, the idea that all i do is suck up to riot is stupid. That doesnt mean im not gunna call out the people on the forums that are clearly wrong, which is far more often than riot is, generally because of magnitude. There are far more people posting than riot makes decisions.

0minousOct 29, 20191 votes

Fair enough.

ﬂooOct 28, 20192 votes

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you are funny ... , you don't know that you receive stronger punishments , even if you have 3 months of reformed behaviour without negativity , so do you asume that this guy really deserves to be permanent banned knowing this ??? , i tell you i haven't test... ,but you would need more than 5-6 months to reset your punishment level(because there is not a decreasing toxic level system to do that) ,which acording to what you say there , is kind of much to wait for having a chance to decrease your toxic level + if you get punished after 3-4 months , you again have to begin from 0 months to stay 6 months clean and don't be negative at all ,considering there are many reasons you can just loss your calm ... , there is no point to proof you anything else than the fact this current system abuse punishments and that if you are in the situation to loss your calm every 3+ months after tolerate hundreds of cases of flame and troll/grief against you and others from your game ,then i think is definetly an abuse the current system as it works... , because you do tolerate hundreds of cases of toxicity ,and if you respond after 3 months to 1 guy , you just get your punishment reset chances denyed ,that mean you have to start from 0 and be again 6+ months clean behaviour to reset your punishment level , which in this way , even if you do your best you can get to the situation you can be permanent banned for such cases , even if you don't deserve that because Riot have not implement a pro active system which lowers punishment during the high amounts of positivity and neutral behaviour... .

When I read things like this, it sounds like people have to physically restrain themselves from not typing bullshit in chat. Like.. how hard can it be? I've been playing since season 2, no punishment yet and even question some people ingame. But there's no reason to break out so much over a game.. Yea it's a meme "it's just a game", but seriously, it's not that hard. The fact that you even get a chance to lower your toxicity level is something you should be grateful about, if you haven't learned about what you're doing wrong after 3 consecutive punishments, you don't deserve anything else.

RayleighTTOct 28, 20192 votes

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When I read things like this, it sounds like people have to physically restrain themselves from not typing bullshit in chat. Like.. how hard can it be? I've been playing since season 2, no punishment yet and even question some people ingame. But there's no reason to break out so much over a game.. Yea it's a meme "it's just a game", but seriously, it's not that hard. The fact that you even get a chance to lower your toxicity level is something you should be grateful about, if you haven't learned about what you're doing wrong after 3 consecutive punishments, you don't deserve anything else.

you have my chat logs over this board , i haven't been breaking rules intentionally ,full backgroudn explained of what happened that game ,and i don't use what happened that game as an excuse , i use it to tell people ,that someone else if woulded be in my place would react much worse ,and behave not that calm and chill , maybe there are some persons which could be totally fine with what just happened to me into that game... , but i wasn't on that moment fine ,because i lost my time to improve and behave nicer , and i was getting every day flamers, and toxic players over and over again , i am not fine to see that over and over again , why i must be totally chill calm for 6+ months to don't receive a permanent ban and to get my punishment lvl decreased ... , is beyond my capacity to deal with some problems sometimes , but that doesn't mean i am a bad person/toxic or anything... , just mean i sayd some stuffs , tell me what kind of insult would be what ever i been wrong with ?? , i haven't understood how someone can be affected by me because they toxic to me ... ??? ,makes no sense , is not obvious that guy who flame me ,do that to make me angry to insult me , to make me loss my patience , is not obvious that he definetly will report me after that for personal reasons ... ,not exactly that i did something to him ..

ApplesauceysOct 30, 20191 votes

3 months isn't even close to enough to step your punishment level down. There was 2 years and hundreds of games between my 2 week and the incident of calling someone a loser which resulted in my main being permad. Once your account gets flagged for anything its pretty much as good as permad these days.

AlienPrimateOct 28, 20198 votes

If this is a permaban then 99% of the player base should receive a permaban including myself even though I've never even received a chat restriction in 7 years of playing. This is also why I actively participated in the old tribunal system.

iron4playaOct 28, 20196 votes

it's obvious that you've been banned before for breaking the rules, and after being warned after your 14 day ban that anything else you do will get you a perm ban, you refused to reform and thus were perm banned for breaking the rules. xD

lubo151Oct 28, 20196 votes

the system didn't do it s work rito needs to fix that it happens a lot you don't even need to swear if 9 people report you in one you are banned and that's it can someone explain how can perma banned if you say one swear word I have played lige for 8 years and have seen so many notes on bords like this

CharDeeMcDennizOct 28, 20199 votes

{quoted} you don't even need to swear if 9 people report you in one you are banned and that's it

this is 100% false

lubo151Oct 28, 20194 votes

How Manny people have you seen behaving toxic and not getting punished for it because for 8 years playing the game that happens not every day but every hour the system banned him for what saying brain dead but why doesn't the system banned ore use some other effective way of punishing the toxic players but players like him need to suffer sorry but not that's not right

CharDeeMcDennizOct 28, 20193 votes

yeah this post is all over the place, take a breathe and calm down THEN try to make your point

TokishiOct 29, 20195 votes

Really disgusting to see what's become of the report system in League. A billion dollar company and the blitzcrank bot is the best they could come up with? Lol, guess having money really is useless sometimes

Emperør RhaastOct 28, 20194 votes

Def not perma ban worthy, I'd take this to support.

DeterminatoredOct 28, 20194 votes

Some advice, Riot employees don't make enough money to give AF. My wife has been playing this game since season 2 and has spent over $700 on it. Her account was perma-banned because she defended herself against some Ahole wishing death on our kids because they were tilted by their own poor perfomance. At that time her father had just passed away and we had a new born so she was going through some rough depression. she took this to riot support and they basically said FU, once a ban is in place there is nothing they are willing to do even if there are mitigating circumstances. So take it from me, this will never be fixed. Support is non-existent in this game.

Emperør RhaastOct 29, 20192 votes

These logs seemed genuinely undesesrving of a ban, especially if there was only 1 game that lead to the punishment. Unfortuanetely, Riot do not care if you were defending yourself from a flamer - they'll ban you either way. I learned that the hard way yourself. It's really much better to mute those kinds of twats rather than talking back to them - most of the time it will egg them on and upset both sides greatly.

Side note, league is not really a game I recommend if youre going through depression lol.

DeterminatoredNov 4, 20191 votes

"Side note, league is not really a game I recommend if youre going through depression lol."

I 100% agree, people's stupidity in this game can be infuriating, especially when you are trying to make a legitimate point and they are just not getting and act like total morons about it.

Tamamo no tomatoOct 28, 20194 votes

Well this is sad. I have seen worse words to me everyday but never get a "successfully reported" feedback.

NaonOct 28, 20194 votes

Tribunal needs to be brought back. It's such a joke how the people who have run down lane mid 40x in single games consistently still get to continue trolling further games with the same method because they simply said. "Sorry bad game" so that riots system doesn't pick them up as "inting."

Same goes for people who are PURPOSELY baiting out others to see if they can get a toxic response and then reporting the person they literally trolled all game to the point of them not being able to enjoy the game they are in. However because of the way some of these people set out to troll, they are not picked up even when a report is sent in to the system.

Our current report system is a joke. I literally had someone tell me to KMS because I didn't want to give them my lane that I queued for and was ASSIGNED. This person then went to my lane and sat at my tower the first 7mins of a game and proceeded to mock me. Are they still playing? Yes. Did they get any form of a punishment? Not that I can see. They have queued up every day. They literally put a space in between how they typed something to me and instead of the system still flagging and banning them "because KYS IS bannable with no tolerance according to rito" they got around the filter and have enjoyed prolly displaying the same behavior towards others.

These type of people know how to play the system and continue to this day to promote toxicity. When tribunal existed we had about half the toxic behavior we have now but at least players were able to deal with the issues right then and there. Now tickets can rot for days in queue just to have no form of action taken except a bot tell you "checking into query blah blah but you won't know the result of the investigation."

JamaiseOct 28, 20193 votes

Wow... I'm kind of new to this game and It's scary to think you can get perma banned for something like this. Iv'e already spent like 50 Dollars on this game it would suck to get perma banned for defending myself or biting back at against someone else who is being toxic. I never start any kind of conflicts in chat because I understand some people simply just are not that good or are having an off game, but if someone comes at me I WILL respond. To be perma banned for not even cursing though is crazy imo. If someone says something rude muting them is an option.

PzyXoOct 28, 20193 votes

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The Anivia OTPOct 28, 20193 votes

a single insult is already too much

second of all, you got permabanned, meaning that you got banned 2 weeks prior to this punishment Didn't you understand that you should have been banned the first time , and riot gave you a last chance ? Was insulting that person worth your account ?

NagakeOct 28, 20194 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Anivia OTP,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OPFfPY2u,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2019-10-28T20:48:53.416+0000)

a single insult is already too much

second of all, you got permabanned, meaning that you got banned 2 weeks prior to this punishment Didn't you understand that you should have been banned the first time , and riot gave you a last chance ? Was insulting that person worth your account ?

I wasnt banned, i only had a mute or something like that a few years back, nothing in the recent past

The Anivia OTPOct 29, 20192 votes

make a ticket it's not normal , you're not supposed to be banned off a simple insult please come back with the support's answer

NagakeOct 29, 20192 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Anivia OTP,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OPFfPY2u,comment-id=001500000000,timestamp=2019-10-29T01:40:36.913+0000)

make a ticket it's not normal , you're not supposed to be banned off a simple insult please come back with the support's answer

I made it as soon as i got banned, still waiting for the response~

ApplesauceysOct 30, 20192 votes

Your just gonna get told they won't do anything about it. My main got permad for literally calling someone a loser as we were losing.

VreivaiOct 29, 20191 votes

I could see this being an escalation to a 14-day ban for zero-tolerance language. The system may be programmed to view "brain damaged" as an ableist slur.

PzyXoOct 28, 20193 votes

Trash system lol