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Rïel··1 votes·1,836 views

So riot, you're telling me that I was banned for something I've said around a week ago, but was banned for using a "F" word once and calling someone a meta slave, I don't know if it's a flaw in the system or not, but srs, wtf.

I know you're gonna dig up my old chat log to show how much of a shameful person I am, but go ahead, I allow it. Because the things others, including myself, have written that should be considered for a ban according to riot policy, but that doesn't explain why a guy who wished for a genocide on Asian ethinics got off the hook, but I got ban for something this stupid. Believe me, what I've said in the last game is worse than the chat log you used to ban my account.

Heres the chat log: Game 1 Rïel: win a game Rïel: already hard enough Rïel: the requirement is Rïel: win a pvp game Rïel: WHEEEZE Rïel: waht Rïel: where he come from Rïel: come on Rïel: riot is trolling Rïel: ping again and i'll fking mute you Rïel: lmao Rïel: i have no intention to win in the first place Rïel: already pinged Rïel: already seen on map Rïel: so idk Rïel: i play morde Rïel: you got problem? Rïel: meta slave Rïel: but i sure prove meta isn't always right Rïel: muted btw Rïel: the button is there for a reason Rïel: cy@ after match Rïel: piece of Rïel: go go Rïel: breach Rïel: need farm Rïel: im the carry here Rïel: ,,, Rïel: a quote from bill wurtz Rïel: damn it Rïel: lul Rïel: now i cant even farm Rïel: nice Rïel: group Rïel: jax engage we win Rïel: either jax or yas Rïel: all we can do is prey Rïel: 200 gold Rïel: 100

Yup, banned for a chat log from one game. Give me around 1-2 more and I might believe you, but pretty sure in some game my teammate are far worse than I am, not sure cuz I used the mute button that time. (Last game I called Ahri a feminist, but not saying that she's a slut or anything, go check for yourself rioter)

I'm not saying that you guys are not doing your job properly, well, maybe. But please reconsider on this ban, or give me more reason behind it.

Edit: If you're gonna ban be for saying "riot is trolling", not cool.

24 Comments

Arisha the Dark3 votes

When will people learn how ban system works?

If this is your 14 day ban, chat log you received is an example. Because 2 chat restrictions and first ban are given for consistent toxic behaviour. Not for being toxic in 1 match. Exception are zero-tolerance words, like racial and homophobic slur and telling someone to kill themselves.

If it's your permaban, it's different. After you got your 14 day ban, Riot gave you enough warnings. So if after that you are even slightly toxic in just 1 match, you get permabanned.

As for other players being more toxic than you, does not give you right to be toxic. If you reported them and they are consistently toxic, they will get banned as well.

Rïel1 votes

Well, reported the guy who said the genocide thing, no ban. And I muted those who flammed so I won't have to write any more radical slurs. Plus, I didn't ask for ppl to kys, accuse them of being homo, or pulling any irl stuff into the game.

And why didn't riot use one where I called ahri a feminist instead of this morde game? There are probably a lot more examples they can use from my past match, but usually my keyboard warrior spree doesn't last more than 2 games. And if they can give me more than 2 reasonable examples of why I should get ban, then I'll lay off.

ps. Words like F- and S- doesn't count since everyone use it.

Arisha the Dark2 votes

{quoted}

Well, reported the guy who said the genocide thing, no ban. And I muted those who flammed so I won't have to write any more radical slurs. Plus, I didn't ask for ppl to kys, accuse them of being homo, or pulling any irl stuff into the game.

And why didn't riot use one where I called ahri a feminist instead of this morde game? There are probably a lot more examples they can use from my past match, but usually my keyboard warrior spree doesn't last more than 2 games. And if they can give me more than 2 reasonable examples of why I should get ban, then I'll lay off.

ps. Words like F- and S- doesn't count since everyone use it.

First of all, you can't know if people you reported got banned or not. Instant feedback that tells you if someone you reported got banned is random, it doesn't show most of the time.

Secondly, "accusing someone of being homo" is homophobic in nature, since being gay is nothing bad. So you can't accuse people of being gay. If you mean calling someone gay in game, I don't think it's homophobic slur, but I might be wrong. Homophobic slur is calling someone fa##ot.

Also, as I said, if this is your permaban, 1 game is enough. Please clarify is this 14 days ban or permaban.

And if by f-word you mean fuck, yes, you can use it. In none offensive way. If you just type "fuck" or "fuck me" after you get killed for example, it's fine. But if you type "fuck you" to someone. It is perfectly reportable.

Rïel1 votes

I think we're mistaken or something, but I never called anyone homo, not with real intention, I do admit my sexual preferences are not straight from time to time, but never call someone homo for real.

That genocide guy I reported was from 5-6 months ago, so chances of me getting the feedback is slim since there are other people whom I reported and got banned a match later.

And this is a perma ban.

Arisha the Dark1 votes

{quoted}

I think we're mistaken or something, but I never called anyone homo, not with real intention, I do admit my sexual preferences are not straight from time to time, but never call someone homo for real.

That genocide guy I reported was from 5-6 months ago, so chances of me getting the feedback is slim since there are other people whom I reported and got banned a match later.

And this is a perma ban.

Ok, so, now it's clear.

You see, once you get 14 days ban, Riot basically tells you "reform or don't play our game". As I said in my previous post, for some time after getting 14 days ban, don't know how much, but might be weeks or months, if you are even slightly toxic in just 1 match, you get permabanned.

Reason for that, is that if you are being toxic even after you got 14 days ban, Riot doesn't think you want to reform, so they just ban you.

It's a cold logic, yes, but it is perfectly logical.

Rïel1 votes

So am I the one at wrong for calling my team a meta slave and let out a fake "open mid" call. Or the riot auto ban system.

Arisha the Dark2 votes

{quoted}

So am I the one at wrong for calling my team a meta slave and let out a fake "open mid" call. Or the riot auto ban system.

Meta slave is derogatory. Saying you have no intentions to win in a ranked match is negative. As for "open mid", fake or not, it's still being negative. You asking people to give up.

Also, I just noticed "cy@ after match, piece of" lines. Did you edit piece of what he is out? Just asking.

Anyways, if you think this is unjust ban, you can contact Riot support and ask a human to review your chat logs. They might agree with you that you did nothing wrong. From here we can't do much.

Rïel1 votes

No evidence was left untouched, and those two lines have nothing to do with each other. Plus it's my team who is also giving up, so even though we're having trouble with each other, we saw that the game is already over.

HalcyonDweller5 votes

TBH, you said "im not trying to win." That would set off red flags for negative attitude.

Xidphel1 votes

What words? Fuck and shit? Yeah. Simply using the words ain't bad. Being a dick is.

Rïel1 votes

Pretty sure every player typeed that at least once in their lifetime.

Xidphel1 votes

Yeah. I fucking typed that shit a lot. And like I said, simply typing fuck and shit isn't punishable. Being a fucking shithead is.

Totally Not Jinx3 votes

The thing is, it's all about intent here. 'Negative Attitude' and the griefing requirement are not limited to trip-words that tell a robot to issue you a penalty.

That being said:

Rïel: ping again and i'll fking mute you [...] Rïel: i have no intention to win in the first place [...] Rïel: you got problem? Rïel: meta slave [...] Rïel: muted btw Rïel: the button is there for a reason Rïel: cy@ after match Rïel: piece of

All of those lines show a very obvious intent. You're being aggressive to your teammates, plainly stating you don't care about winning when that's the entire point of playing this game versus opponents, and going on about the mute function.

If you actually cared about the mute function, you wouldn't say a word. You'd be focused on the game at hand, and move forward.

Lastly, 'piece of,' with no context, insinuates you were about to insult your teammates but tried to cleverly dodge the penalty for it.

So yes, this chat alone provides reason enough.

And as many people have said, this is the one example, in a history of examples, that finally led to someone deciding to issue a penalty.

Umbral Regent2 votes

Rïel: i have no intention to win in the first place

You announced openly that you have no intention to win the game. I'd wager that the IFS considered that an open admission of trolling/sabotage. On top of your combative way of dealing with your teammates, I can see why this log would incur a punishment.

Rïel1 votes

Was expecting this.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=R%C3%AFel

Take this and scroll down to the single morde game, see if im inting or not.

Umbral Regent1 votes

You will notice I didn't say "inting", or reference intentional feeding. I said trolling/sabotage.

Regardless, even if you performed better than your teammates, you still declared you didn't want to win. In a Ranked match, no less.

Your score isn't relevant. Your intention is.

Rïel1 votes

Whew, let me get that straight

You think a single phrase can say that I'm not trying to win? Did you jump into conclusion? I do not have intention to lose the game, thats not why I pick mord, and even if i did, I would've gone cleanse meditate, and I would've run it down mid 20 times like the sona I played with before. I did not sabotage the game, nor troll at all, the one who will be consider "trolling" is the 1/13 jax, and there's no hint of me flamming the shit out of him. So it's pretty much an auto check system at flaw, so idk.

Rïel1 votes

Was expecting this.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=R%C3%AFel

Take this and scroll down to the single morde game, see if im inting or not.

Edit: My friend say it's bot, so it kinda sound reasonable to ban me for something that only meant to implement "open mid"

Umbral Regent1 votes

...so it kinda sound reasonable to ban me for something that only meant to implement "open mid"

You realize that "open mid" is punishable in any form, right? It doesn't matter if you alone want to open mid or if your entire team agrees to open mid - it's still punishable.

Rïel1 votes

I said open mid, but never did since I couldn't bear to do nothing while game is still going for 10-15 minutes.

HalcyonDweller3 votes

It has the same effect as saying "I'm trolling," or, "I'm gonna int," the problem is that saying these types of things tilts your teammates and stresses them out regardless of whether or not you follow through on those threats.

Stressing teammates out like this is never acceptable. It's not just the acts that are punishable, making threats and saying things that will tilt teammates is punishable in its own right.

EvilDustMan1 votes

It's possible you got a manual ban. Submit a ticket. This is pretty toxic stuff, it depends on how many punishments you've had over time and when your 14 day ban was.

YerroFever1 votes

Do you have a history of prior punishments? Chat restrictions, temp bans, etc... This is probably a punishment escalation because the log is moderately mild.

kurumi2k1 votes

Outplayed by the ban + unlucky , ive met some guy with the famous cc word , still playing and spaming this from time to time

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