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hyperenor··2 votes·5,100 views

So what happens to your honor when you get a 10/9 game chat restriction? It is currently locked showing lvl 1.. I tried to get high honors but if someone can ruin that because they upset they lost I then what's the point of trying to high honors? I mean you can't say something back when someone is flaming the whole game without risk of being CR/loosing honor in this game???

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Umbral Regent4 votes

So what happens to your honor when you get a 10/9 game chat restriction? It is currently locked showing lvl 1..

When you are punished, your Honor is dropped to the Dishonorable status (Honor Level 1 for first-offenders, Honor Level 0 for continued misbehavior or egregious first offenses) and locked for a short while.

The lock will automatically lift after some time of playing, and after that you need only regain your Honor through regular play without rulebreaking.

I tried to get high honors but if someone can ruin that because they upset they lost I then what's the point of trying to high honors?

People can't get you punished just because they're upset. To get punished, you would have had to break the rules alongside being reported for it. If you don't understand the reason for your punishment, you can submit the chat logs here for peer review, but otherwise, know that other people cannot impact your Honor just because they feel like it.

I mean you can't say something back when someone is flaming the whole game without risk of being CR/loosing honor in this game???

Why would you need to say anything back to them? If they're flaming the whole game, then they're beyond unreasonable, and there's no point or benefit to trying to talk to them.

If someone's flaming, you should just mute them in-game, report them post-game, and move on. Talking back to flamers just risks you getting punished as well if you can't handle the situation appropriately.

hyperenor1 votes

ok. Yeah takes way to long to get honors for one report of saying something negative in game to take it from lvl 3 to lvl 1.. Needs to be a better system because at that point going back to lvl 1 I don't see a point in trying to be nice and pushing back to lvl 3 at this point. Took me months/year to get that high for one upset guy that didn't like what i said to take that down. Yes i used foul language but i didn't tell him to stop playing the game or go KYS.

rujitra1 votes

Yes, that’s the design. If you don’t want to be marked dishonorable, don’t act dishonorably.

GatekeeperTDS2 votes

but if someone can ruin that because they upset they lost

You can be upset that you lost. What you can't do is take it out on other people.

hyperenor1 votes

yes but if someone is flaming me for picking a champ at the start of the game then flames his support for him going 0-4 and i say you need to play safe your being ignorant and get CR and lost my honor for that then why bother with honor at all

CharDeeMcDenniz3 votes

why do you need to add the "you're ignorant" part? Does it seem honorable to you to call someone ignorant?

completely unecessary and only inflames the situation further

hyperenor1 votes

I was taught to be honest? If you make stupid mistakes and flame everyone else for it you are def ignorant and maybe being told that will make you relook at it. I mean that isn't really that bad to say tbh. I have seen much worse that goes unpunished. My point in this was purley to say that my first CR gets me from lvl 3 honor to lvl 1 honor makes honor pointless in my opinion. This type of punishment isn't going to get people to play better/act better. It makes it where people care less because regardless if you have 1k games good and 1 bad game where you say something out of norms you lose everything anyways. I understand if someone said "hey go KYS your worthless piece of shit" yeah harsher punishment but saying your ignorant learn what team work is before you play ranked gets you the same punishment then why bother with honor.

Kei1432 votes

It's really not for 1 game. While the the reform card only shows you 1-5 recent games as examples of unacceptable behavior, doesn't mean you were punished for 1 game alone.

You can write to Riot support and ask them how many recent games you were validly reported in. It's going to be more than 20% of your recent games.

Also, let's not have you just tunnel on one sentence. Your whole chat gets reviewed and the system understands if you were using chat ins general negative manner.

If you wish, post your chatlogs here and we can dissect your chat and let you know where you went wrong.

hyperenor2 votes

So where can i write into riot for that report? That is the worse sentence I said which is why i tunnel to that one. I usually don't flame in games tbh usually I just give advice without negative attributes to it.

Kei1432 votes

https://support.riotgames.com

Your toxicity score is judged by your whole game, not just that sentence. Which is why you don't tunnel on 1 word/sentence alone.

hyperenor2 votes

Yeah i got that! Thanks for the link

CharDeeMcDenniz2 votes

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I was taught to be honest? If you make stupid mistakes and flame everyone else for it you are def ignorant and maybe being told that will make you relook at it. **I mean that isn't really that bad to say tbh. **

so you say "it's not that bad", which means you're acknowledging that it IS bad to some degree. So if you admit it's bad then why do you think you deserve rewards for being honorable?

is it honorable to knowingly insult people? hint: no, it's not

hyperenor1 votes

To be honest with you tell you that you're ignorant isn't really a insult.. If you make bad decisions it's an opinion at that point. An insult is only a insult if you take it personal. On that fact alone anything I say that you don't agree with on your game play can be an insult.

CharDeeMcDenniz2 votes

if you pass a fat man on the street, is it acceptable to tell him "hey, you're obese" ?

is it factual? yes. is it also offensive, yes, duh.

come on man

hyperenor1 votes

It can be but that is literally depends on who that person is. Facts are not offensive unless you take them that way. I said it before, It's only offensive if you take it that way when it's facts! It's all perspective at that point. It is different when you said hey you piece of shit your fat but i didn't

CharDeeMcDenniz2 votes

good luck with that attitude man, it's called common human decency, give it a try.

goodbye*[slayer-jinx-catface]*

hyperenor2 votes

LOL, Well it's been good so far. I mean 1 ban for like 5 seasons of LOL which is the most toxic player community out there in the gaming world! Think I am doing pretty good! RekSai

Kei1432 votes

Life tip; In communication, it's not about what you say, it's about what they hear.

hyperenor2 votes

Yeah but if you live like that you will never say anything in fear you will be taken out of context. It's what wrong with the world today. Negative ears will always hear negative things.

Kei1431 votes

Heh, there are other ways you can say things to have people understand them differently and clearly. Your choice of words (as well as tone, but tone is hard in a text based environment) matters alot.

Communication is an art, and there are always ways you can improve it.

GatekeeperTDS2 votes

An insult is only a insult if you take it personal.

That's called victim blaming.

An insult is an insult if it was INTENDED TO BE AN INSULT.

hyperenor1 votes

lmfao that's right everyone is a victim if they wanna be a victim my bad!

GatekeeperTDS2 votes

I was taught to be honest?

"Being honest" is being truthful and having integrity. It is not running your mouth insulting people, even if it's true. Sometimes shutting up is in your own best interest.

GatekeeperTDS1 votes

You most certainly said more than that, in more than one game if you got a chat restriction.

hyperenor1 votes

Alright well I got what I needed thanks for all the comments we can argue all day about this but it's best for everyone to just move on! lmfao! No need to waste anymore time on this. I will ask riot which is the final say on this subject/has facts behind what happened so i can find the answer I am looking for! The main reason for this thread was to point out more that The first CR I got Reset my honor rank completely which I think is a little harsh.

CharDeeMcDenniz1 votes

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The main reason for this thread was to point out more that The first CR I got Reset my honor rank completely which I think is a little harsh.

it's not, you acted dishonorably so you get treated as such

hyperenor2 votes

I am simply stating I have played LOL for 4+seasons and my first CR gets my honor reset.. kinda harsh in my opinion. idk why you think your opinion trumps mine. We can disagree. It's funny you come here and instantly think I was "dishonorable". LMFAO

GatekeeperTDS1 votes

"Harsh" doesn't matter. Them's the rules. Act dishonorably, lose your honor.

hyperenor2 votes

cool well you called me dishonorable twice that is offensive right? I mean your calling me something negative.

hyperenor1 votes

once again I never said i wasn't wrong tho. I was just stating that taking all your honor lvls away is harsh due to one main report. I asked and I was CR FOR THAT ONE GAME. They sent me the chat logs. So one game can ruin years of work. I will def look for you in games to report you! Good luck with your gaming. Thanks for hanging out on the forms. I already put in a request to see how often i get reported. It's not like I am asking for my CR to be removed it's 10 games total not a huge deal to not type in all chat/to my team mates. I was more disappointed that one strike on CR and your lvl 1 honor again.

GatekeeperTDS1 votes

cool well you called me dishonorable twice that is offensive right?

I'm done replying to you after this. All you're looking for is an argument. We're not discussing me, we're discussing your punishment. Have a great day!

[slayer-jinx-catface]

CharDeeMcDenniz1 votes

i "instantly think" that becuase you straight up said it

look in the mirror man, you're in the wrong on this one

GatekeeperTDS1 votes

so i can find the answer I am looking for

You are 100% not going to get the answer you want from Riot. You want your chat restriction lifted, they're not going to argue it with you.

hyperenor2 votes

I never once said I wanted it lifted. Good try tho! I think you should reread it. I am more interested in posting this about how my first CR not even a ban got my honor wiped. IDC about the chat restriction. I am okay with that. LMFAO

hyperenor2 votes

Hey guess that is what happens when you read something in your own perspective and think your 100% right without actually knowing the facts or the reason behind it!

GatekeeperTDS1 votes

Exactly. You want to argue about your honor being reduced. When you get a chat restriction, it means you're not honorable, no matter what occurred in the past. They're not going to restore your honor.

hyperenor1 votes

LOL so if you mess up at work and ruin 1 thing you should be fired? If you get 1 bad grade you should fail that class? That is what your statement says to me. If you do one thing wrong you failed at that completely. There is more to it then just that. I mean I got honored in the game that took my honor... So it was literally their perspectives.

rujitra1 votes

No, but you also don’t get a chat restriction for one minor offense.

Kantala2 votes

I've been playing since preseason, so yeah it may seem a little harsh. However, it's been like this since honor was implemented. People who play for rewards should always keep that in mind if they want to receive them at the end of the season. That being said, good luck climbing back out and hope you keep it clean in season 10. [slayer-jinx-wink]

hyperenor2 votes

Thanks, lol! Good luck in your LOL adventures! ^^

Tele II1 votes

Wtf? Ive never lost honor because someone was upset. The hell you talking about?

Yin Yang Taoist1 votes

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I mean you can't say something back when someone is flaming the whole game without risk of being CR/loosing honor in this game???

Exactly why its better to mute and play, OP. Because of examples like these. One of the few times I don't mute my chat box and this is the kinda stuff I have to read. And trust me, it happens very often. You dare try to mediate between these guys and you'd be dragged right down into it. So its best to never say anything, whatsoever. Go with an unmuted chat box and atleast 4-7/10 games will have someone talking nonsense. And, you're expected to never stop them or retaliate (if you're the one being flamed).

yeah harsher punishment but saying your ignorant learn what team work is before you play ranked gets you the same punishment then why bother with honor.

I know how you're feeling because I've been in your shoes as well. But that's the way Riot's policy works! Anything that you say, as long as it can be categorized as being 'Negative' can get you in trouble. If you're not sure then don't say anything at all. If you get scanned manually and you said something which was even mildly offensive then you get punished for it.

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