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"reform timer" being based on time, not games played is a terrible thing

fourthashura·6/22/2017, 5:08:21 PM·1 votes·748 views

TL;DR the way system works right now it punishes way more people who are simply tilted for various reasons and are decent members of the community in the 99% of the games than the ones who are intentionaly toxic (technicaly it could even be possible to tilt a ton of people into getting banned and get away with that)

I got a 14 day ban a month ago and after that time I tried hard to not flame anyone. I play a lot everyday and today about 120 games after the last ban I got banned because of two games in which I was flamed by 2 or 3 people and I talked back because I was tilted myself (It wasn't anything extremally offensive: I just pointed out how they're blaming me for everything, spamming missing ping and "respawning in" every time I died while they were having a terrible game themselves) I understood that I was being toxic after the second restriction and started trying to stop that (my 14 day ban was literaly from 2 games in row in which I was losing my 1/0 series for the third or so time in a row)

I just find it ridiculous how I played almost 700 games this season but all the ones where I was toxic and got restricted/banned were 10 in total, everyone has a bad day sometimes...

Im not sure if that's true, but I heard somewhere that you get lowered one rank in banning system every 6 months, so if I were playing on average 1 game a day then I would never get anything more than 5 game restriction and would that mean that I'm less of a toxic player? No, I would still be ''toxic'' once in 100 games or so...

23 Comments

AeroWaffle6/22/2017, 5:12:35 PM5 votes

It is based more on games played than time. We've had cases where someone gets a punishment, takes a long-term break (several months), comes back only to have just as poor of behavior, and is assigned the next punishment tier.

Just because the system only shows you a few chat logs doesn't mean that those were the only ones that contributed to the punishment. You could have been on the edge for a very long time and those two games are what pushed it over the line.

ModThe Djinn6/22/2017, 5:44:50 PM3 votes

It's actually primarily a function of games played with good behavior and, if you're reported occasionally but not sufficiently to merit another ban, can take more or less time. The 6-months estimate is simply based on what people have seen given the normal playing habits of the people in question. If you're a very active player it would well be much shorter.

The important thing is that this decreases down by a rank each time -- at a 14-day ban, even a decrease still puts you in the 25 game chat restriction tier. Thus, behavior that would normally escalate you immediately to a 14-day ban could permanently ban you even then.

fourthashura: but better jack off to drawings under turre fourthashura: but these %%%gots in my team are tilting me fourthashura: getting same inting %%%got two times in row fourthashura: what a retard fourthashura: nothing, go fuck yourself fourthashura: braindead fourthashura: u lost it because u are retarded fourthashura: he can watch this to see u being a retard who is pushing and cant play his champion at all?

This is nothing but insults and hate speech. The word censored by the board filter is especially bad, and usually merits a 14-day ban in and of itself.

With previous punishments INCLUDING a 14-day ban on your account, it's reasonable to see why the system would escalate this to a permanent ban even from the 25-game chat restriction tier (assuming you had managed to drop to that level).

RallerenP6/22/2017, 5:14:15 PM1 votes

It's a mix of both.

If you play no games the 'timer' will never go down.

It's also possible that in some of the 120 games you played after your 14-day you were negative, but not enough for a punishment, and the one game you did get punished for was just the last drop to trigger a punishment.

fourthashura6/22/2017, 5:31:08 PM1 votes

I might as well copy the chat logs there:

Game 1 fourthashura: u cant fourthashura: i also have ufo corki from the same season 1 event fourthashura: greato fourthashura: he fucking started on my wraiths fourthashura: my god fourthashura: yeah and u cant stop him? fourthashura: yeah fourthashura: what fourthashura: how the fuck did u die fourthashura: lvl 6 vs lvl 4 xD fourthashura: diamond elo letting enemy jungler START in allied jungle fourthashura: and i have no blue fourthashura: xD fourthashura: i actually dont fourthashura: im adc main fourthashura: if u fucking went there fourthashura: he would give up on doing that fourthashura: but better jack off to drawings under turre fourthashura: whatever, just surr at 15 fourthashura: i knew the game was lost at 2nd minute fourthashura: it was a waste, i didnt even need that fourthashura: but these %%%gots in my team are tilting me fourthashura: when xayah and tahm just keep feeding graves more and more fourthashura: no wards fourthashura: and keep pushing and then wonder why they die fourthashura: xD fourthashura: go there and die fourthashura: good call tahm fourthashura: build from the release fourthashura: also blind fourthashura: and dead fourthashura: xayah does literaly 0 dmg Game 2 fourthashura: all thanks to this guy who suicided in my lane fourthashura: love it fourthashura: quality ranked experience fourthashura: getting same inting %%%got two times in row fourthashura: oh come on fourthashura: afk in team fourthashura: xd fourthashura: full hp is 60%? fourthashura: xD fourthashura: lets group fourthashura: dont waste baron fourthashura: no crit fourthashura: i fucking hate it fourthashura: getting a crit with 80% chance on shiv proc is so important fourthashura: 1/0 promo? fourthashura: oups Game 3 fourthashura: i was in fucking base fourthashura: and coming fourthashura: but u died fourthashura: when i was there fourthashura: so i went back to farming fourthashura: my god fourthashura: what a retard fourthashura: nothing, go fuck yourself fourthashura: blaming the jungler as always for your mistakes fourthashura: tali also had 20% hp fourthashura: im the fucking nasus of jungle fourthashura: well she has no ult now fourthashura: blaming me for being far to agresive and getting punished for that fourthashura: like i can do shit when theyre all pushing, maybe except swain fourthashura: braindead fourthashura: xD fourthashura: u lost it because u are retarded fourthashura: he can watch this to see u being a retard who is pushing and cant play his champion at all? fourthashura: we can win late fourthashura: yeah we wont fourthashura: seju has a 45% winrate until 35th minute, same for kog fourthashura: tali knocked him out of my W fourthashura: def and farm fourthashura: i guess fourthashura: if we arent surring fourthashura: my fucking god fourthashura: yeah they have lategame, we dont fourthashura: like u got solokilled by ziggss back in the top tribush fourthashura: you go there fourthashura: xD

Were these games really "extremely inflammatory and offensive"? As for the game nr 2 I got the same guy two times in row and someone talked about my last game in match history being 2/7 or something so I answered with the first line, then next 3 were because he flashed before minnions spawned and one about int is because he went afk

Ebrawl6/23/2017, 8:03:02 PM1 votes

Forthashura bro this is relatable I was getting reformed and one "bad game" got me perma banned. yet I wasn't being that toxic while my TEEMO support and Karthus int and troll their asss offf