I Got Trolled And Was Permabanned For It.

TianWangShang·Aug 8, 2018·0 votes·2,486 views

So I have already once written about toxic behavior on this game from players on this side of the world. It is no wonder when you finally try out One For All, there are always two pairs of duo queues and they always want to bitch and fight with one and another. They also believe they are in the right in whatever they want is always what they will get even to the detriment of other players. When one of them bans your intended vote and therefore leaves you without much choice but you still intend on making this a good game and therefore choose Taliyah. A fairly decent champion with the only problem I can see is the ult. They whine and bitch about how she sucks, how she is useless, how they can't even play a champion like Taliyah... They whine before the game starts and fight with everyone else and the one vote that is cast by the single queue because he was trolled; gets flamed by them. Riot picked the one choice with the least votes and numerical likelihood of being picked. Why should I then get flamed,trolled, and permabanned for it? Because I don't think they understand what One For All is all about then. _**Riot.. do not ever say you aren't toxic or aren't supportive of it. You Are The Most Toxic Component Of This Game. **_So then throughout the match I get flamed and yet I was either the best or second on the team. I had to team up with top because the guy is a moron who would walk into a bush with two Darius in it by himself at level 1. Bot does the same.... Over And Over Again. And yet top won its lane.... 5 Taliyah versus 5 Darius.... We should have won hands down as I demonstrated in my game play. But no, they whine and bitch; flame and troll - griefing all throughout the game and yet I get permabanned for it. This me trying to win and not to int. Me trying to pick a champ that is actually fun to play and will give us a good likelihood of winning. So now I get flamed by inting trolls and I get reported by people who are the actual trolls. I'm finally done with the game. There's no help for NA players. I'm not going to bother putting in a ticket for a trash system that bans people because 4 trolls can report together. If they had the gall to practically scream "Dodge!" over and over again before the match started... they should have done it themselves and not waste our time and report the player who tried to have a good time. I can see why older professional players leave. Something about this game just couldn't hold you to it without something wanting you to leave for better pastures. May all NA players go to hell and be as pathetic as you all are. Have a horrible year stomaching Trump like I do. And yes America #1! OOOOOOOOH YEEEEEEEAAAAAH. Right.

They seriously need an "upload image" option. Spent a few minutes cropping out names and now I'm finding out "oh, no wonder everyone uses Imgur" to post images. - 11/16/2018 TianWangShang

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Like I have replied to many; I would have posted chat logs if I wasn't banned after one match. And from prior experiences hence be quick to uninstall. Good luck getting those chat logs after that. And in the context of what you have all wrote, here's a link that I replied to despite the post being 2 years old. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/1T6ygxjY-got-trolled-and-banned-for-defending-myself

Read the first post and what I replied. Opened your eyes yet?

P.P.S. Wow. I had more comments and more views on my post than Godless Whore's? I mean most of the comments are mine but the views?

34 Comments

TheEvilQueen135Aug 8, 20188 votes

pretty sure you were banned for your attitude...i'm just looking at your post, not even chat logs...

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

Great, I'm about to leave the game and I get you trolling me yet still. My attitude before the game was I wanted to play and have fun. They troll me and we lose. My attitude is fine if you do not troll me and I am not negative about you. Right now you demonstrate yet again your narcissism. Please just leave my last alone. And of all who can see my post first it's always you, huh?

TheEvilQueen135Aug 8, 20184 votes

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Great, I'm about to leave the game and I get you trolling me yet still. My attitude before the game was I wanted to play and have fun. They troll me and we lose. My attitude is fine if you do not troll me and I am not negative about you. Right now you demonstrate yet again your narcissism. Please just leave my last alone. And of all who can see my post first it's always you, huh?

all i have to go off of is your post. you didn't post chat logs. so all i see is someone with a negative attitude and someone who sounds like they did a serious flame.

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

Tell me how to post the chat logs. Btw I already deleted the game and the installer. I have raged off of this game before when people have trolled me. If I could post the chat logs for pregame, during game, and post game - I would.

Void NargacugaAug 8, 20183 votes

You would have to log in, once you do a reform card would pop up allowing you to copy and paste your logs .

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

Wouldn't get what she WANTED. The reform card rips off sections from what you have said and done and translate that into purely what you did wrong for YOUR actions. If the context is missing. How would any of what I posted be beneficial for those who are about to judge me and post in relation after that.

SugeMinPikkAug 8, 20182 votes

Buddy I've been perma'd way more than you have and even I agree with TheEvilQueen135

Imperial PandaaAug 8, 20187 votes

Really?

No, don't try to blame us for a few bad players and your rotten attitude. You are the one who decided to just day you hope all NA players go to hell.

So you know what? Just leave and make sure the door doesn't hit your ass on the way out. You came to public forums to have no discussion apparently.

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

I'm leaving the game after getting trolled and permabanned. You don't think I would post in this fashion? Sweet, someone who doesn't understand emotions i guess.

Imperial PandaaAug 8, 20187 votes

I understand emotions just fine. The logic is stupid though.

"Dur, I'm leaving this group or people I mostly don't know. Better tell them all to burn in hell because I'm a petty fuck. Dur."

Does it suck you don't enjoy the game? Yes. Am I sorry you got matched with questionable players? Yes. Do I appreciate you telling an entire region to go to Hell? No. Does anyone actually care you have decided to stop playing a game you don't enjoy? Maybe a handful, but doubtful.

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

You are now in a state of mind with the frame most closely resembling what I am feeling. That satirical post has worked. How do you feel, my good individual? That is exactly what I am feeling. From what I am reading it seems to me you now understand the feelings of what I am experiencing. (You have reached that state of mind, that reference frame of existence). Where's the logic I get trolled and banned for it? Why are you reading this post from a frame of mind who isn't understanding (being logical and neutral) that this post is for those that are negatively affected?

I'm Chinese and physically in the world where reality is. China is going to hell basically. So there's that. Why are you butt hurt that the U.S. is going through its typical whatever happens; happens daily occurrence that will past in time?

Imperial PandaaAug 8, 20185 votes

I feel indifferent. If I felt anything it would be disappointment that an individual lacks self control.

You weren't punished because you were trolled. You weren't punished because 4 people reported you. You were punished because you can't behave properly and want to use others actions to excuse your own.

As to why I am reading it from the perspective I am, it is because you should always give input from a point of non bias. You could have told any other region to go to Hell and I would have said the same thing.

Perhaps be more clear. In OP it is more implied you want people to actually go to Hell, if such a place actually exists. As opposed to a hellish situation you are trying to use now.

ModThe DjinnAug 8, 20187 votes

Each player is judged by their actions, whether in retaliation or as the first offender. Someone else breaking the rules does not give you permission to do the same. Whether 1 player or 9 trolls reports you doesn't matter -- if your chat logs are clear, you will not be punished.

I understand the frustration of being in that situation, but muting the player and playing the game as best you can is the correct solution.

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

Understand even if I mute them. Here are the facts. I waste 20 minutes of my life that should have been fun (purpose of a game is)? When I don't say anything. Even if I did or not. If 4 players report you at the same time possibly even with the enemy team. In all the likelihood of what can happen. Usually the system auto suspends you or bans in one way or another with some form of punitive action. Meaning I would get flamed even if I didn't know about it. (Ignorance is bliss?) While I play honestly (which I did despite getting flamed and have every around me int) I would still lose because of the trolls.

If they harass you during pregame (that is before the match even starts) and says because it's Taliyah - let's just keep on saying "report this guy, report this guy". Riot is taking the wrong stance right now.

"Each player is judged by their actions, whether in retaliation or as the first offender." How will Riot see the action of 4 individuals with nothing pointing them to it. 1 player report against them against 4 reports against the one. Which does the system prioritize? I wanted Garen, they banned that vote before it could even happen. So I chose a champ that is fun to play, isn't useless like how the trolls said she is (though the ult leaves something to be desired) and still wanted to play and have fun. They basically harassed me during pregame. If somebody could rip those contents off and post it here. I would be much obliged.

"Someone else breaking the rules does not give you permission to do the same." No, if you are human - you reply in kind. If my chat logs have sections ripped off(reform card) and without context serves as the point of which I get permabanned. You think I'm the only one in the wrong?.

"Whether 1 player or 9 trolls reports you doesn't matter -- if your chat logs are clear, you will not be punished." Adopting this method, doesn't definitively help combat trolls/toxic people and it leaves no room for those who have emotions and will appropriately reply in kind.

"I understand the frustration of being in that situation, but muting the player and playing the game as best you can is the correct solution."

Thank you for being the first person to reply with what I had expected to see in the first parts of a reply. I have read how others mute and play. Here's the thing though. I tend to play regardless and I try to have fun and win. Whether or not I get flamed/trolled I always try to play to the best extent of which I can. The game is unresponsive and I die some times because of that - fine. I make player errors - fine. But people have no business flaming me for picking Taliyahs and solely because of it. It's as simple as that. Riot doesn't have an effective system. Like this post is drawing attention to. I have been banned by trolls and people are still saying it's just me. The context of what I am being banned for isn't easy to make public (name shaming or something) and in transparency for all to judge.

I wrote the last part of the post as a satirical annoyance appropriate for being trolled, permanbanned, and leaving this game. That if you are human would understand is a coping method for the negative emotions building up right now.

ModThe DjinnAug 8, 20185 votes

{quoted}If 4 players report you at the same time possibly even with the enemy team. In all the likelihood of what can happen. Usually the system auto suspends you or bans in one way or another with some form of punitive action.

This is not how the system works. It triggers if Reports > 0, whether that number is 1 or 9. The system then views the logs without knowing how many reports triggered the review. It really only cares about your behavior.

How will Riot see the action of 4 individuals with nothing pointing them to it. 1 player report against them against 4 reports against the one. Which does the system prioritize?

All of them, equally. The system sees that each was reported at least once, and then digs into the specific behavior each exhibited. It's not a one-or-the-other situation.

"Someone else breaking the rules does not give you permission to do the same." No, if you are human - you reply in kind. If my chat logs have sections ripped off(reform card) and without context serves as the point of which I get permabanned. You think I'm the only one in the wrong?.

You are not the only one in the wrong, but that fact that not exempt you from the rules. If you reported those players, they will be judged and punished appropriately for their behavior and their reporting history.

...and it leaves no room for those who have emotions and will appropriately reply in kind.

I definitely have emotions. The League chat, however, is not the appropriate place to express emotions in a manner that the rules do not allow. You have to either tailor your expression to suit the rules, or find another outlet other than the in-game chat.

Thank you for being the first person to reply with what I had expected to see in the first parts of a reply.

You're very welcome. :)

Like this post is drawing attention to. I have been banned by trolls and people are still saying it's just me.

I think you may be misunderstand the point, or they may be poorly expressing it.

Yes, someone else frustrated you. Yes, you responded in an emotional manner. But, ultimately, they did not MAKE you express yourself in that way (they can't make you type anything), and so, ultimately, the responsibility for any actions you took falls on you.

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

For the first sections of the post, thank you for explaining that to me. Now I wonder if all those reports I did even matter.

And for the last part, yes I understand and that is so. Now everybody doesn't need to read about this anymore because the post really has no relevance. It's just going to be left out there so people who cannot actually identify with it and vote it down.

You have a good day.

ned the kledAug 8, 20184 votes

"someone hit me and i killed him, and was jailed for it."

wall of text rant here

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

What is the meaning of this post? I cannot understand this post.

ned the kledAug 8, 20181 votes

you're complaining about someone else's behavior while you responded to them and got banned for it. you should look for your own behavior if you get banned before ranting.

TianWangShangAug 19, 2018

Log back in and wow, so many Western narcissism. Good old Western world. No wonder Putin wants to fuck with the West.

TianWangShangNov 17, 2018

Literally proves my point. I got banned. Leaving a post before I leave. And someone is right here trolling me. I guess people here don't know what "troll" means.

Sona PingAug 8, 20183 votes

You should screenshot your cards and post them.

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

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Void NargacugaAug 8, 20184 votes

They asked for your reform card. Not your match history.

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

And it won't tell you much other than the flat- Riot permabanned you for just this section alone only. That's the problem. I played a Fizz One For All game just after that troll game(won that one as expected because Fizz is so beloved) and was permabanned after that when I logged out. I got banned because of 4 trolls from the game prior. My reform card is going to focus on what I said in reply to when I'm getting trolled and I'm trying to justify the pick of Taliyah by Riot and still trying to win when all 4 is just trying to int. Feeding Darius and trolling me with their flaming attitudes. I could post it but you are just going to be TheEvilQueen135, who is telling me I should be freaking Buddha (problem is the attitude and therefore I should not reply in kind for grievances) but still act like a narcissist(what she is doing).

Void NargacugaAug 8, 20184 votes

The reason it only has YOUR chat is because YOU are in control of YOUR behavior in chat. You cannot get a punishment for what someone else does.

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

If 80% of my games has someone being toxic because they died once or is having their emotions negatively affected then by those statistics shouldn't Riot permaban the chat feature then? Seems to me that's where most of the flaming is coming from. If I close chats from my side I lose actual communication from those that might actually matter (very unlikely in all my games). But still there's that. If Riot designed a personal chat preference for players - this might not be a problem. In the client, hit options, go to In-Game Chat Settings. Set how many times you can type/ how many chats from other players can you see and which words can you filter out.

"You cannot get a punishment for what someone else does." This is exactly what is happening. And full transparency cannot be revealed because I'm the banned individual with now limited means of posting what happened.

7deadLeeSlnzAug 8, 20181 votes

Guess what. That's what riot wants you to do if they ban you. And I guess since you dont post your chat logs you have something to hide.

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

Unfortunately, I'm quick to leave games that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. if you can tell me a way to post reform cards & chat logs without going into the actual game client again - I will post it for you.

AneirinAug 8, 20183 votes

I Got Trolled And Was Permabanned For It. Why should I then get flamed,trolled, and permabanned for it? But no, they whine and bitch; flame and troll - griefing all throughout the game and yet I get permabanned for it. So now I get flamed by inting trolls and I get reported by people who are the actual trolls.

Dude, even for the boards the amount of deflecting you're doing is intense. Do you expect us to believe that you literally did nothing and Riot said "oooh that guy is getting trolled, let's ban him for it"?

Autumn SymphonyAug 8, 20182 votes

bro,you fair deserved your permaban,because you salty player,change your attitude to other players or just mute provocators

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

If you could infer the state of mind right now. You would understand I am only "salty" precisely because I got trolled. Pregame- harassed. During game harassed and trolled by int feeders. Post game - reported and banned by those very trolls.

PurpleYukariAug 8, 20181 votes

Is there anything to even discuss here, or is any discussion just trolling?

TianWangShangAug 8, 2018

No, this is a suicide will. What? Could you not tell from the title? The content's negative emotions? The explanation in its title post that derives what I have already posted before?