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DISHEARTENING EXPERIENCE

King Nathaniel··2 votes·1,458 views

I recently came back to league from an over 10 month absence. My country was hit by a category 5 hurricane last year and was severely damaged. I have been taking my time before playing placement ranked matches to get back into form. My mission was to go for 10/10 wins, but a team mate had other ideas.

In champion select I chose 'Zed' as my going to lock in choice. I was second (2nd) pick on the team and feeling good. My ally who is last pick and not mid lane wants Zed. I obviously have pick priority over him because of my placement in order, but guess what..? Your team mates can ban the champions you have selected for lock in. Your team mates can stop you from playing what you want to.

He 'my team mate' in a ranked queue bans 'Zed' because I didn't say yes to his demand. Now what should I do? Dodge and auto lose? Play another champion feeling like garbage helping someone who out of spite hindered my game?

I didn't dodge and I didn't do anything in the match. I let the enemy team do their thing. I wasn't going to let someone on my own team bully me and still get me to jump through hoops.

I am asking RIOT please place a safety lock on champions chosen for lock-in. Prohibit team mates from banning out each other purposefully.

25 Comments

disregardable6 votes

if you're not going to try, you should dodge.

punished 3 other people for no reason.

King Nathaniel1 votes

So you see my dilemma? Why should I have to dodge and lose my LP? That cannot be a thing and needs addressing. I strongly believe a safety lock on chosen champions from being banned by team-mates would help.

Aneirin6 votes

So you see my dilemma? Why should I have to dodge and lose my LP?

You could also play another champion. What would you have done if the enemy team banned Zed?

I strongly believe a safety lock on chosen champions from being banned by team-mates would help.

There's been plenty of threads saying why this isn't feasible. Most obvious reason is it prevents you banning champs from the enemy - if I'm forced to lane against Fizz because my team hovered it but the enemy team picked it then I'm gonna be pretty tilted.

King Nathaniel1 votes

I would have played another champion, but guess what? I shouldn't have enemies on my team either. It's the principle of it. I am not down for bullying, online or offline.

King Nathaniel1 votes

And it's sad because this tells me that either you are someone who has done this or does this to others. If not, then why are you so okay for me trying to ask for something to stop more of this problem? Just play another champion? Seriously? Do ethics mean nothing to you?

Oh and one of the things he said was "Then, you shouldn't be a one trick pony." Why is he allowed to tell me what I can and cannot play? I play many champions, but having the person next to you that should have your back be the one stabbing you is dumb. So yes. If I have to lose LP, I made sure he and his friends did too.

Aneirin6 votes

And it's sad because this tells me that either you are someone who has done this or does this to others.

Wrong.

Just play another champion? Seriously? Do ethics mean nothing to you?

Don't talk about ethics when you intentionally ruined the game for all involved. No he shouldn't have banned your champion, but you could have been the bigger person and played something else, then reported him after the game.

I'm not saying what happened was okay, but what do you expect the board to do about it?

King Nathaniel1 votes

I could have been the bigger guy, but this person would continue his behavior. If i report him after, what are the odds my report will matter? I am here not asking for him to be reported. I am here voicing for a solution. That's it. Not to complain or fighting with anyone over it. Suggesting a solution to a sequence of events that isn't rare.

Oh and to add, yes. I did that and I stated it here. I didn't hide the fact I did. I'm speaking with truth. I took it upon myself to do something in retaliation so he would feel a consequence to his actions but I want this to find an end. I shouldn't be at the mercy of another team-mate.

I'm being transparent and not trying to look innocent. Just looking for a fix, besides bending over.

Aneirin6 votes

I could have been the bigger guy, but this person would continue his behavior

He will anyway. All you did was make the game a bit worse for everyone.

King Nathaniel1 votes

He did ban it from the enemy team though. He banned it from me because he wanted to play it and I was going to pick it before him. He even told me this in the chat.

Aneirin3 votes

What I'm saying is your proposed solution of preventing banning of hovered champs would prevent your team from banning a strong pick that the other team may pick before you get a chance to.

King Nathaniel1 votes

I get you. I didn't ultimately think of it that way. Does make it a difficult thing for RIOT to solve. One of those damn if I do and damn if I don't scenarios. I guess it's the whole way it all went down. How he hurt me for his on satisfaction. It wasn't a decision for the betterment of our team vs the enemy team, it was just to throw me down.

Aneirin3 votes

Yeah it's a tough one and it's never fun when your champion gets taken from you; unfortunately I think it's just a side effect of interacting with strangers online - sometimes you're going to run into those bad apples and it's not always possible to design a system that stops them being jerks entirely.

King Nathaniel3 votes

Yea... I should have just ignored, muted his in game chat and proceeded for my win. *breathe in, breathe out.

Lichformed2 votes

You lose more LP for inting and being an ass in game than just dodging

Aneirin3 votes

I didn't dodge and I didn't do anything in the match. I let the enemy team do their thing. I wasn't going to let someone on my own team bully me and still get me to jump through hoops.

So you made the rest of your team suffer for his actions... that's like keeping your neighbourhood up late with loud music to 'punish' one person for something petty.

Trundamere3 votes

A player is allowed to ban a champ for any reason he wants to. Even if it is for the reason to deny someone else on your team from playing a champ.

What isn't allowed, is for you to pick go in to the game, buy no items, have 0 CS, and purposefully lose the game via passive INTing or AFK.

I play only two champs in most cases. Trundle and Tryndamere and I have had people on my team ban both of them before because my name kind of makes it obvious that I two trick those 2 champs. But I can also play Nasus well enough.

Nothing gives you the excuse to passively INT. Play another champ or if you can't handle that, dodge the game before it starts.

If you aren't here to play the game to try to win the game, and your going to purposefully lose games when someone prevents you from playing what you want or otherwise. Then you shouldn't be playing this game, Not only is it just unsportsmanlike to try to correct a wrong with yet another wrong. You also negatively impacted the game of 3 other people on your team who were not involved in what set you off. and they have every right to report you. and if you keep doing stuff like this you will get banned and rightly so. If you enter a game you are expected to play it out to the end to the best of your skill level.

In short. You either need to stop with that behavior or go and play a different game.

King Nathaniel1 votes

You make legit remarks and I do understand your view, but I will take down those that care little for my joy. If you think I will let you have me as your patsy, you got another thing coming. To the collateral damage, too bad. He didn't think of anyone else but himself when I was a target. He didn't expect any blow back and that is a fact. Not everyone will just take other peoples foul treatment. There will always be men and women who will get their hands dirty too and cripple their attackers.

Trundamere3 votes

This kind of behavior will get you banned sooner or later.

Not to mention you are also damaging yourself cause AFKing in a game and losing it will cost you yourself a larger LP loss then a dodge would. So because it is you yourself that is purposefully losing games, and he isn't purposefully losing games. you are hurting yourself more then you are hurting him, if you repeat this behavior at all.

So it is not even logical to do so, not to mention it is unsportsmanlike, the wrong mindset if you want to have success in this game, and considered passive INTing and can get you banned if you make a habit out of it.

King Nathaniel1 votes

Why would I make a habit out of it? I chose to lose more as he would lose more, rather than I being the only person to lose. Granted, I'm sure we would have won that game because I'm very good with the champion Lissandra aswell and others xD but still... I had to hit him somewhere.

The next time this occurs... I hope it doesn't or atleast not for a long time. I will try to remember to just let it go. He will get his up and comings eventually. Win the game and move on.

Trundamere2 votes

Because statements such as "I will take down those that care little for my joy." Highly suggest to me you will do this again.

And no he won't get his "up and comings eventually" because he did not do anything wrong. Riot doesn't punish for banning your own team mates champs unless it is also apart of a larger trolling situation.

King Nathaniel1 votes

But that is what I am trying to tell you. He didn't ban the champion to prevent the other team from having it. He banned it because I didn't let him have it. I was second pick and he was last. It was a personal attack, not a strategic one.

Trundamere3 votes

You are allowed to ban a champ to prevent your own team from playing it.

Examples that I sometimes do myself.

I will ban New champs or newly reworked champs during the 1st few weeks of them coming out, because I don't want to deal with them on the other team AND i don't want to deal with them on my own team in most cases either even if the person on my team can 1st pick the champ.

I will also in select cases ban yasuos off of my own team because of the countless bad experiences I have had with yasuos creating massive problems that I am not skilled enough to over come at this time.

Having your champ banned is always going to feel like a personal attack to most people. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't, but regardless of the reason, it is allowed, personal or not, unless the player is also trolling in other ways that makes it clear to riot, that over many games the player is only banning the persons champ to add to whatever trolling they are also doing in game.

I have had my champ banned from my own team mates for whatever reason. I assume it is most likely because they don't want to play with a split-push champ, and while it might slightly annoying in some cases, I don't care. I will play something else and split-push anyway.

King Nathaniel2 votes

lol :)

Yea. Well he asked me for the champion before banning it, so I strongly think it was out of spite. I agree, I will refrain from acknowledging such situations. I can win with many other champions. I guess I was butt hurt aswell because of how much I wanted to play Zed. Anyways, thanks for the chat. I will try to keep a level head if this scenario happens again.

King Nathaniel1 votes

I'm being honest and stating what I did. The issue was, he was playing with friends. They were fine with it.

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