I was Permabanned for what, exactly?

Sir Donzel··1 votes·634 views

I was permanently banned after one game where I said something negative about an AFK. Yes, I flamed, but how is one negative chat log of one game an "extensive audit" of my behavior, and somehow meriting a permanent ban? And the language I used wasn't racist or homophobic either, before anyone suggests that. So why was I banned? I can't figure out how to post my own chat card, but if someone is aware of how to do so I'd be happy to in order to show why I don't think a permanent ban is warranted. Not that I think this will ever see a reply from anyone, let alone anyone who works in Player Behavior.

EDIT: Here's what was said. Jungle Vayne was the AFK

Yorick You know what this means right? You and I top? MINION FIGHT Report our Vayne by the way Thanks Oh how I wish we had a fucking jungler With any luck his house is burning down Lucky I'm done at 20 Since you probably won't FF Fuck off. Enjoy your 4v5 win Oh look The lvl 1 Vayne is back We're saved... Too late Who cares We're surrendering in a minute and thirty If we have any fucking sense I was CAMPED Trundle came top four fucking times Oh loook There she goes again What is she, your fucking duo? Muted Fucking asshole. Vote yes I'm afk split pushing until we lose And fuck whoever voted no, by the way Ashe bitching about me? Because somehow the AFK is my fault Yes Fuck you No, I just don't care Who votes not to FF in a fucking 4v5 Who votes not to FF a 4v5 Seriously, who's enjoying this Just end I'd rather you report our AFK At least this toxic bot will lose as well That's something Why won't you let us lose It's a 4v5 In normals We haven't taken 1 tower I'm serious What's the appeal in getting curb stomped Tell me Just end it

13 Comments

Denavai3 votes

Check your email.

I7A6X2v23 votes

You are obviously extremely toxic and negative, u deserved the perma ban.

Dominick Destine2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Donzel,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NcYn1iho,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-05-04T22:46:19.227+0000)

I was permanently banned after one game

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Primaquarius2 votes

"Report our Vayne btw" "With any luck his house is burning down"

You really dont know?

Sir Donzel1 votes

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AraMoOse1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Donzel,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NcYn1iho,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-05-04T22:49:22.541+0000)

Here's the Copy Paste of my Chat Log, now that it finally arrived in my inbox. Jungle Vayne was our AFK

Yorick You know what this means right? You and I top? MINION FIGHT Report our Vayne by the way Thanks Oh how I wish we had a fucking jungler With any luck his house is burning down Lucky I'm done at 20 Since you probably won't FF Fuck off. Enjoy your 4v5 win Oh look The lvl 1 Vayne is back We're saved... Too late Who cares We're surrendering in a minute and thirty If we have any fucking sense I was CAMPED Trundle came top four fucking times Oh loook There she goes again What is she, your fucking duo? Muted Fucking asshole. Vote yes I'm afk split pushing until we lose And fuck whoever voted no, by the way Ashe bitching about me? Because somehow the AFK is my fault Yes Fuck you No, I just don't care Who votes not to FF in a fucking 4v5 Who votes not to FF a 4v5 Seriously, who's enjoying this Just end I'd rather you report our AFK At least this toxic bot will lose as well That's something Why won't you let us lose It's a 4v5 In normals We haven't taken 1 tower I'm serious What's the appeal in getting curb stomped Tell me Just end it

You have to be joking. You think THIS is ok?

Sir Donzel1 votes

No, I realize I was flaming, but I didn't threaten anyone's life or start spouting slurs. Why was I instantly permabanned for this? Yes, I shouldn't have said any of it, but I think the punishment far exceeds the crime.

AraMoOse2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Donzel,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NcYn1iho,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-05-04T22:55:16.601+0000)

No, I realize I was flaming, but I didn't threaten anyone's life or start spouting slurs. Why was I instantly permabanned for this? Yes, I shouldn't have said any of it, but I think the punishment far exceeds the crime.

So does everyone who ever gets punished.

A permanent ban is handed out when someone has not changed their behavior after a 10 game chat ban, a 25 game chat ban and a 2 week suspension from the game. So it doesn't necessarily have to do with the gravity of the offense. If you've been punished 3 times and are still offending, there is no reason to assume the 4th time will be the one that changes your behavior.

SmokedAlmonds2 votes

Threatening someone's life or using hate speech are only some of the ways to get permanently banned. They only consider 1 factor, severity. You completely leave out frequency. Specifically, the also focus on recidivism. Barring those things like hate speech punishments escalate on a set path for repeat offenses:

  1. 10 game chat restriction
  2. 25 game chat restriction
  3. 14-day ban
  4. Permanent ban.

Anything that is considered 10 game chat restriction worthy will get you permanently banned if you get punished for it 4 times.

You were punished because of that chat log, that punishment was a permanent ban because of your entire history.

EvilDustMan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Donzel,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NcYn1iho,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-05-04T22:55:16.601+0000)

No, I realize I was flaming, but I didn't threaten anyone's life or start spouting slurs. Why was I instantly permabanned for this? Yes, I shouldn't have said any of it, but I think the punishment far exceeds the crime.

'I hope your house burns down'

uh...

uhhhhhh..........

Sir Donzel1 votes

I didn't say I'd set his house on fire, what I said was I hope he had a really good reason for ruining the game for all four of us by going AFK

ModPrandine1 votes

Report our Vayne by the way Thanks

Calling for reports.

Oh how I wish we had a fucking jungler With any luck his house is burning down Lucky

Wishing harm upon someone else.

I'm done at 20 Since you probably won't FF Fuck off. Enjoy your 4v5 win

Giving up just because of an AFK on the team.

Oh look The lvl 1 Vayne is back We're saved... Too late Who cares We're surrendering in a minute and thirty If we have any fucking sense

Passive-aggressive comments directed towards the Vayne along with another "I give up" statement as well. Also trying to boss your fellow teammates into doing what you want them to do (in this case surrender).

Oh loook There she goes again What is she, your fucking duo? Muted Fucking asshole.

More harassment directed towards the Vayne.

I'm afk split pushing until we lose And fuck whoever voted no, by the way Fuck you No, I just don't care

Abandoning the team and not caring about it while also being a jerk towards the person who voted no to the Surrender vote. All this just because of an AFK on your team at the very start of the game.

Who votes not to FF in a fucking 4v5 Who votes not to FF a 4v5 Seriously, who's enjoying this Just end

While your frustrations are understandable you are not the leader of the team so stop acting like you are.

I'd rather you report our AFK At least this toxic bot will lose as well That's something

More calling for reports.

Why won't you let us lose It's a 4v5 In normals We haven't taken 1 tower I'm serious What's the appeal in getting curb stomped Tell me Just end it

This is ironic considering you had already given up and decided to just abandon your team just because the beginning of the game didn't go your way.

Conclusion:

When things don't go your way you seem to resort to harassment, report calling and team abandonment (i.e. the afk farming and the almost immediate "surrender at 20" comment). This lasts throughout the whole entire game. None of these are acceptable and are why you got punished.

Advice:

  • While having an AFK on the team is always annoying to deal with, giving up immediately when one appears can often do more harm than good. At least try your best and make the effort to play the game rather than giving up right away.
  • Don't call for reports, ever, as it's considered harassment. If you need to report someone just do so after the game. One report is as good as three are, meaning that additional reports won't increase the time it takes for a case to get reviewed.
  • Wishing harm on someone and harassment are both big no-nos. If you're frustrated take it out on a pillow or something rather than venting it out in the in-game chat. The reason so many people get punished for verbal abuse and harassment is because they feel the need to verbally abuse and harass someone via the in-game chat. You can't get punished if you don't do anything in the game or say anything in the chat that you know is against the rules and will get you punished.

My verdict: Punish.

Additional Notes:

  • Unless the case in question is extremely bad (i.e. death threats, racist comments, etc.) you aren't punished for just one game alone. You are punished for showing consistent negative behavior across multiple games.
  • Reform cards never show all reported games and are meant to be an example of the kind of behavior that got you punished in the first place.
  • Cases can be escalated immediately to 2-week or permaban status if the behavior shown in them is severe enough.
  • Permabans are handed out if the person in question has not changed their behavior after 35 games worth of chat restrictions and a 2-week ban.
  • All permabans are reviewed by a Riot employee directly, and are only handed out if the reviewer after doing a full account review feels that the person in question has no interest or intention on reforming.
Kei1431 votes

Looks like its worthy of a punishment.

Considering the time you were 14-day banned, you were negative again shortly after that punishment. The next punishment is a permaban, which is what you got.

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