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I've been suspended unjustifiably. Why, Riot? Is this how Riot treat players?

Vexdy··1 votes·1,633 views

Hello, my in-game username is Vexdy, and I'm an old player of LoL. As a matter of this game being my favorite, I dedicate my half of time to this, playing matches, and trying so much to the extent I sweat because of the hardwork. And it even reflects my real life. I get so tensed, and annoyed sometimes, due to intentional bad playing from certain players, in most matches, that they neither listen to you, nor stop the bad-play. This being the cause, in the case of a honest and hard-working player, it's obvious that he/she may get upset, annoyed and highly disturbed due to this, and so can be triggered helplessly to reflect back, but that doesn't mean it's his fault. The reason I am writing this is because the same has happened with me, and I can't last a day without playing League, but then League, just..just suspends my account, without even inspecting the case entirely, each part, and how it went wrong. Surely, there has to be a reason, as to why a certain thing has transpired.

So, here's my reason, that I'm justifying:

I've climbed to Bronze 1, numerous times, and then due to loss of matches, due to trolls/afks/intentional bad playing/toxic players, I sometimes have lost like 12 in a row, not because of them, but their bad play has reflected upon my confidence, which led me to a condition as such, losing 12 or more in a row. This is because I'm annoyed, upset, and I've lost confidence, that I fail to carry even matches with chances to be victorious in.

So, I constantly try, try, and then I lose two in a row, either due to afks or intentional bad play from certain players (who neither listens to you, nor wants to stop the bad play). So, just imagine, in case of a player, who yearns badly and wants to win, one after one, he keeps playing matches, even though he loses more than he wins, yet he tries.

Then, this happens with him, he's fed up, and is absolutely helpless, so he resorts to venting out his anger, finally, as he's totally fed up, and mad, because he loses time, even his meals, most of the times, for this is how much he loves the game, and wants to be good at it.

But, why? Yes, I've flamed them, and in a match, where the score was entirely upside down, and I was totally fed up, so I wanted to like let them finish this asap, 'cus my team was neither surrendering nor helping it out.

Then, I'm suspended for 14 days...why? I'm playing more than 10 hours a day, just to get myself out of this bronze, but then what League does to me, is just.... Do I deserve this, because I've flamed them? Really? But if you tell me, that I've no right, does it mean that I'm so helpless that I can't do anything even to justify my anger? Why? Does Riot just blindly depend on chatlogs? And that too mine? And it's like, yes he has been like that, so ban him? Why? Why doesn't League do justifiable judgements? Such intentional bad plays should be stopped. This is wasting the time of honest and hard-working players. And you ban them, because they were helpless to do anything so? Why, if I vented my anger, I am suspended? Why me? Why not them? Even though, they were the really guilty ones. This is totally injustice. Yes, even it's a 14 day suspension. I want this removed asap, because I totally do not deserve it, and I almost destroyed my entire gaming system, due to this. Another loss, after my account suspension.

Really, League, if you want people to play this game, at least, be JUSTIFIABLE, because we pay, we dedicate time, and our love. But this is what happens to us? I was right on flaming, and wanting the match finished, because WHY waste time on a score that is like 9 vs 36. WHAT ARE THE DAMN CHANCES? My anger was justified.

I do not know how to tell this, but, I beg of you, remove this suspension, and I promise you, I'll reform, forever because I can't last a day without League, and I do not want to create a new account. Please don't tell me that this suspension will make me learn something, for I'll be helpless to do anything, but just quit League. I'm a honest player, and a devotee.

Remember, if this happens to every other player like me, trust me, no players = NO LEAGUE.

If we play this, only then League will exist, so don't lose your users. No, this is not a threat, but I'm not that helpless either.

Thank you.

23 Comments

Oleandervine7 votes

Yes, being negative towards people is offensive behavior, and you were banned for 14 days, which means you've already had two separate chat restrictions.

Just because people upset you and don't play as well as you doesn't give you any right to tear them apart. You wouldn't dare do it to someone in real life, so I'm not sure why you would assume it's ok to do it in a public space online.

You know the consequences of expressing negative behavior, and yet you continue to do it. You could always vent IRL, yell out your window, punch a pillow, whatever, and avoid venting in game. You really need to find a way to vent that isn't in the game, because at this point, if you accrue enough reports against you to be punished again, you will be permanently suspended.

Vexdy1 votes

Whoa, mate. What an incredible reply. Surely helping with this. I thought by explaining my matter would give you reasons and justifiable reasons as to why a such thing has taken place. But, you? You just GET along with number of reports that counts, without even inspecting the real situation. No, it is not RIGHT, and FAIR to intentional bad play either. And yes, I've GOTTEN the same back from them, else I'm not MAD to continue so and vent so. I'd have been silent, even though I've tried explaining things to the opposite team, but they were like, no you are wrong. Why? Why isn't there anyone with any comprehension at all here? All I see robotic duties here. All you do is: Glance at the thread, read a few words, skip, skip, and come to a conclusion. Really, Oleandervine? Is that your helpful judgement right there. What right do you have to ban a honest, a devotee player like me, UNLESS you want to spread HATRED towards this game. Remember, you'll always get part time players, but FULL time players is why LEAGUE exists. Quit doing your duty for once, and come to a humanly conclusion. Yes, I'd dare to tear up that person, if he/she was in REAL LIFE. Do you hear that? Yes, you've heard it. Now MAKE sense, and be JUSTIFIABLE, for that's your duty, not to make MERE conclusions with no basis and FOUNDATIONS.

Oleandervine4 votes

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Whoa, mate. What an incredible reply. Surely helping with this. I thought by explaining my matter would give you reasons and justifiable reasons as to why a such thing has taken place. But, you? You just GET along with number of reports that counts, without even inspecting the real situation. No, it is not RIGHT, and FAIR to intentional bad play either. And yes, I've GOTTEN the same back from them, else I'm not MAD to continue so and vent so. I'd have been silent, even though I've tried explaining things to the opposite team, but they were like, no you are wrong. Why? Why isn't there anyone with any comprehension at all here? All I see robotic duties here. All you do is: Glance at the thread, read a few words, skip, skip, and come to a conclusion. Really, Oleandervine? Is that your helpful judgement right there. What right do you have to ban a honest, a devotee player like me, UNLESS you want to spread HATRED towards this game. Remember, you'll always get part time players, but FULL time players is why LEAGUE exists. Quit doing your duty for once, and come to a humanly conclusion. Yes, I'd dare to tear up that person, if he/she was in REAL LIFE. Do you hear that? Yes, you've heard it. Now MAKE sense, and be JUSTIFIABLE, for that's your duty, not to make MERE conclusions with no basis and FOUNDATIONS.

I read the thread. I noted that you were justifying quite heavily how you had the right to flame and insult people who you judged to be playing badly and not listening to you because you were a veteran player. This is not a valid reason, nor is there any other, to spread hatred in this manner. As I stated before, you need to learn to vent outside of the game, because clearly, what you are doing now is not helping anyone and only pushing you towards a permanent ban.

Furthermore, from a psychological stance, people doing poorly will continue to perform poorly, or even worse, when confronted negatively and chastised for their poor performance. Your flaming and negativity also ends up making the entire team do worse because they don't want to watch their team arguing and they will begin to get frustrated with you and your target. Additionally, upsetting the other players on your team makes them not willing to assist you or other players who are insulting them. They will actively avoid you or spitefully watch you die to something they could have prevented just because you've upset them and they want vindication.

And lastly, typing and flaming in game means that you are not playing because you're too busy not moving and not hitting QWER1234. This means less kills, less CS, and less team engagement. So when you type, you directly contribute to your teams failing performance.

Vexdy1 votes

A match that has no sign to be won. = You tell me to try for it? Am I God or what? Typing contributes to what? This simply made no sense. Justifying myself pushes me to cliff, and so I will get banned? Whoa. Whoa.

Well, this is the pinnacle of shallowmindedness from Riot community. Very soon, you'll see many players quit this game.

Have fun with your duty, as robotic worker. I believe that common sense is finally not so common.

RPK9KM4K4A4 votes

A banned person gets defensive when someone mention about their chatlogs, definitely not hiding something. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2251216695/1?tab=overview

(* replaced by / to avoid bolding) [All] Vexdy: relax [All] Vexdy: first time nid, and it's norm [All] Vexdy: don't take it to your arse. [All] Vexdy: ugly one [All] Vexdy: nor am i [All] Vexdy: ;) [All] Vexdy: ekko, shh nig// [All] Vexdy: :p [All] Vexdy: ekko whats ur rank [All] Vexdy: you seem like bronze 10 [All] Vexdy: but ok [All] Vexdy: didn't i tell you it's my first time to be a nid [All] Vexdy: are you trying to make sense again [All] Vexdy: i'm going to roast you with a first time nid [All] Vexdy: ;) [All] Vexdy: ekko is easy asf [All] Vexdy: sit on cactus, and rotate, my son [All] Vexdy: im not [All] Vexdy: LOL [All] Vexdy: im havin fun, nig/// [All] Vexdy: i dont really mind norms. ;) [All] Vexdy: tone up your t/ts, yo todd [All] Vexdy: LOOOOOOOOL [All] Vexdy: talks worth to a first time nid [All] Vexdy: bronze smurf asf [All] Vexdy: rip [All] Vexdy: i love this rengo :D [All] Vexdy: LOOL [All] Vexdy: well if you are playing against bronze, honey, you're bronze. [All] Vexdy: LOL [All] Vexdy: ekko shut up [All] Vexdy: im not impressed by your kid talk [All] Vexdy: go make sense to your nans [All] Vexdy: fun [All] Vexdy: how many ults [All] Vexdy: one a first time nid [All] Vexdy: on [All] Vexdy: very pro [All] Vexdy: you still cant finish a norm game [All] Vexdy: extending it to more than 20mins [All] Vexdy: very silver, rengo [All] Vexdy: LOL [All] Vexdy: im practicing nid [All] Vexdy: make sense [All] Vexdy: LOL [All] Vexdy: i just healed a full health trynda [All] Vexdy: :< xD [All] Vexdy: Trynda's undying rage's like eternal period [All] Vexdy: lmao srry [All] Vexdy: Ryze, nice ks'ing skill [All] Vexdy: i tried too [All] Vexdy: uhyes [All] Vexdy: :D [All] Vexdy: bye. ;c [All] Vexdy: tyty

Athina4 votes

Punishments do not get removed unless they were wrongly given, and based on what I am seeing here it is highly unlikely. You were punished because you were creating a negative experience for the players in your games. It doesn't matter if you are having a bad day, or if someone is aggravating you for some reason or another; you are still accountable for your actions. When this happens you should take a break and cool off, not force yourself to keep playing.

All punishments are justifiable. Chat related punishments are on a tier based system, with the punishment you got being the third. You get two chat restrictions before that and a permanent suspension after, assuming that you didn't do anything to skip tiers. They are based entirely off of what you were saying in the game, and doesn't take other players into account.

As for other punishments, Intentional Feeding is an immediate 14 day suspension, but is significantly more difficult to track. This is even more true at lower ratings, like yours. Bad plays happen, and they can't be punished for trying.

You are right though: League depends on its players. That's why they punish the ones who create a negative experience; creating a healthier environment makes a better experience for everyone, and therefore attracts and holds more players to the game. To that end, removing a few "dedicated" players that create a negative experience for others is the best course of action.

RPK9KM4K4A1 votes

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Punishments do not get removed unless they were wrongly given, and based on what I am seeing here it is highly unlikely. You were punished because you were creating a negative experience for the players in your games. It doesn't matter if you are having a bad day, or if someone is aggravating you for some reason or another; you are still accountable for your actions. When this happens you should take a break and cool off, not force yourself to keep playing.

All punishments are justifiable. Chat related punishments are on a tier based system, with the punishment you got being the third. You get two chat restrictions before that and a permanent suspension after, assuming that you didn't do anything to skip tiers. They are based entirely off of what you were saying in the game, and doesn't take other players into account.

As for other punishments, Intentional Feeding is an immediate 14 day suspension, but is significantly more difficult to track. This is even more true at lower ratings, like yours. Bad plays happen, and they can't be punished for trying.

You are right though: League depends on its players. That's why they punish the ones who create a negative experience; creating a healthier environment makes a better experience for everyone, and therefore attracts and holds more players to the game. To that end, removing a few "dedicated" players that create a negative experience for others is the best course of action.

Oh his intentional feeding is not hard to track at all, he was busy antagonizing teammates AND enemies in all chat while sitting in the open and died while doing so.

Griefing? Check. Intentional feeding? Check. Unsportmanlike behaviour? Check. Toxic chat (hate speech/racial slurs)? Big check. Should be permabanned.

EvilDustMan3 votes

Chat logs.

Vexdy1 votes

Is chat logs your only proof? What about the entire game chatlogs? What about the status? What about the real situation?

Such narrow mindedness here is disgusting and disturbing.

EDIT: And most importantly, what about my REASONS?

ModWulf Helhammer4 votes

Yes. Because chat logs prove your culpability in the event of your toxicity.

TheRealBaz1 votes

{quoted}

Is chat logs your only proof? What about the entire game chatlogs? What about the status? What about the real situation?

Such narrow mindedness here is disgusting and disturbing.

EDIT: And most importantly, what about my REASONS?

there is reasons, but no good ones

disregardable3 votes

"Well I felt upset" isn't a good enough reason to let people ruin others' gameplay experience. It doesn't apply to feeders, it doesn't apply to ragers. I don't know what else you expect people to say.

Vexdy1 votes

Did you just quote one line out of the entire explanation there? I didn't just get upset for mere one game. THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOREVER. And it is really UNFAIR being unable to do anything. Why are you so mind restricted and open to justifiable comprehension? I expect you to be human.

disregardable3 votes

Uhm. Exactly? It's wrong to do it once, so you get a slap on the wrist (chat restrictions). Keep doing it and you get banned.

Vexdy1 votes

You get a slap on that face that is by flesh, looking like a human, but you're no where near to acting like one.

Exactly? Exactly, your low comprehension of the situation is just really saddening. I didn't feed intentional. And I kept encouraging to STOP, and STOP, but it kept going on, and on. What does this mean? Oh, and you didn't even answer my reply there. You are coming with irrelevant replies. Please think before you ever reply. I don't see what you're trying to justify with these baseless and unjustified remarks. "chat restrictions" was a bygone past. No, you should be given a time machine to travel into that situation, for only then a dummy minded people like you will comprehend the reality.

I'm done with you. Close this thread, and I don't expect anything else from anyone.

Remember, Riot exists only if we exist. Not we, no League. Bye. Happy narrowminded life.

xXxAltaïrrxXx2 votes

Just make a new acc,they will not lift u suspension(they never do).With ur 10h a day playtime u can make it to lvl 30 in no time.

sheldonbunny2 votes

You seem about as tense as a cat in a room filled with rocking chairs. I understand you're angry and frustrated, but you're lashing out at others here. It doesn't present you to be a rational, logical, nor mature individual.

Simply put, if your punishment has escalated to a 14 day suspension, you have either been previously punished or your behavior was deemed bad enough to go straight to the 14 day. Either way you are on thin ice. Unless you want the account permanently banned you need to truly reform.

How you are acting in this thread is the exact reason why you got yourself in trouble in the first place. You're coming off as aggressive, erratic, and argumentative. In all honesty, it sounds like you need a break to cool down. You're simply winding yourself up more.

EvilDustMan1 votes

Hold on, did you get a 14 day ban for intentional feeding. Am I reading that right?

Vexdy1 votes

Dude, are you even reading? That's my question. No, am I reading right that you're actually reading? Of course not. Intentional feeding wasn't done, but was reported. Dude, what are you even trying to justify anymore? You've already established your blind and shallowminded conclusions. Please, just let go of this. It's not a matter that people like you can comprehend. I've already seen of what you've come up with. And it's really worth the reverence. You must be awarded for such tremendous duty.

EvilDustMan3 votes

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Dude, are you even reading? That's my question. No, am I reading right that you're actually reading? Of course not. Intentional feeding wasn't done, but was reported. Dude, what are you even trying to justify anymore? You've already established your blind and shallowminded conclusions. Please, just let go of this. It's not a matter that people like you can comprehend. I've already seen of what you've come up with. And it's really worth the reverence. You must be awarded for such tremendous duty.

Chill your jets. If you keep up talk like that, you might get banned.

OH WAIT

PracticingJgNTop1 votes

Well lets start from the top.

You're really bad at league of legends. Like awful. You have no excuse for not being able to get out of Bronze. It's really not your teammates. I recently climbed out of bronze with a 90% winrate on Amumu (Not an exaggeration, although it has since dropped to about 75% while going through Silver with friends).

If I can win 90% of my games, there's no reason you can't win 50% (all you need to climb in this game these days is 50%. Riot has made climbing easier to reduce ragers like you). You need to stop pointing blame at other people, and point it at yourself. What can I do to get better. How could I have carried that game.

I've been toxic, I have bad days when I'm upset. In fact, I am overly toxic quite often. I understand the game probably better than you ever will, so if anything my experience playing with low level players is even more infuriating than yours. And yet I have never once on any of my accounts, ever been chat restricted, not on any of my accounts over thousands of games.

Just because people make mistakes or are really bad is no reason to be toxic to them. That's not a justification.

TL:DR You deserve what you got. You're overly toxic. Be toxic to yourself, not to others.

Kei1431 votes

If you are not in the ELO you are supposed to be in, you should be easily able to identify mistakes the enemy is making and capitalize on it. Forcing the enemy to play at your tempo instead of theirs.

I can do this even as a support main.

But if you suck, you probably can't see the plays others are doing and are blaming them as trolls instead.

The rest about you complaining about others, tldr. But probably well deserved punishment.

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