Trolls within the ranked draft mode champ select

Slupydood··4 votes·784 views

Let's be real here, no matter how much we say how much player toxicity has decreased, it's a matter of being at the right place at the right time, or in a lot of people's cases, the wrong place at the wrong time. I find myself being at the wrong place at the wrong time a lot and encounter people in my ranked queues/selects that just start to troll once they don't get what they desire. I would post examples, but I'm sure all of us have at least encountered this situation at one point in their time with League. One option is to deal with it and play the game out and try to win. Of course i've tried this, and I would say 1 time out of 20 times, I would win with a person that decided to troll or upset the team immediately from champ select. The other option is of course to dodge the queue, but why is there not a 3rd option that could reset things for everyone without any sort of loss except the time spent in select?

Something like a vote to kick option in champ selection is what I mean. Kinda like a vote to surrender but instead of just losing the game, it would just boot everyone out of queue and give them a chance to wait for a new string of players. If a toxic player decides to keep tearing up champ selects, they'll keep facing vote to kicks from champ selects and never get to play until they decide to be a proper teammate. This could be abused in some ways, such as pre-mades having favored odds with vote kicks, people not happy with their team comp overall and decide to restart queue with vote kicks, but having this option to deal with trolls or people that aren't all about that teamwork empowers players and strips trolls of their power to control their teammates through a form of mild extortion.

I'm not saying this is THE solution, but an idea that something needs to be available for players to deal with toxic players before getting into the game without negative effects besides loss of time. At this point of the client, we can't even report someone until after a game is done... after we're done dealing with BS shenanigans that the worst of us players bring upon other players who just want a good game of League. League is so far behind player empowerment in comparison to Dota 2 which has so many features to save the players' time or give them the edge they need to win an unfair game.

Well, my post wouldn't be the first of its kind, so I don't expect anything out of it, i just had to get this outta me.

19 Comments

scazzman2 votes

i agree. sometimes. drastic measures are needed

CarinaGirmies2 votes

Honestly I like the idea, but I wouldn't implement it as I'm sure it will be abused.

XerShade2 votes

Right, you do know the definition of troll is subjective to the point where 10/0/29 Shaco Bottom Roamer is blamed because the adc goes 0/30/0 right?

I'm going to say no, I am not getting penalized because YOU have issues with my game play style.

Slupydood1 votes

Well..it's not only me I assure you. And this idea would not penalize you outside of a few mins of your time, and it would be a majority vote so all your teammates would have to not like your choices in order to reset the queue. Also, this is a pre-emptive measure before people get into a game so the situation you described would be dealt with in the end game lobby and in game chat.

Maximum Morde1 votes

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Something like a vote to kick option in champ selection is what I mean.

No. This is exactly what made Teambuilder the worst piece of shit ever created.

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Maximum Morde1 votes

You kidding me? The leader could kick anyone he wanted. I know because teambuilder basically you couldn't do off meta anymore unless you wanted to wait an hour. That's how tryhard it got when you let people kick others.

scazzman1 votes

dude. you're below level 30. and we're talking about ranked queues specifically. which you arent allowed to play. "unless you're on a smurf" and ranked is supposed to be "tryhard" which if i had my way. anyone who used as an insult. would be permabanned instantly

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Off meta is allowed bro. It's not a rule break. The only thing vote kicking would accomplish is to destroy off meta players.

scazzman1 votes

make it only available for ranked. done

Maximum Morde1 votes

It's still allowed to pick random crap as support like Leblanc or Karthus. This vote kick crap would eliminate that. We'd never see Teemo again, along with any other champions considered weak. That's just how the player base is. If they were so tryhard in teambuilder, what do you think is going to happen in ranked if you let them kick people?

I know you want it for trolls, but people would just use it to enforce the meta.

scazzman1 votes

im going to say something and you're not going to like it. some meta enforcement in ranked might not be a bad thing. people dont understand how bad playing Ashe jungle tilts people. especially if theyre in promos or on a losing streak. if you want to experiment with off meta builds. do it in normals and not at the expense of my LP

Maximum Morde1 votes

This isn't professional. This is entertainment. It's a game and people are just as entitled to to play what they want to play as you are. If you don't like it, that's on you so feel free to dodge.

Meta enforcement is the worst thing that can happen to a competitive game because it causes extreme stagnation. Have to experiment to change the meta in the first place. It's what keeps games exciting.

scazzman1 votes

so. im supposed to eat a loss in my promos because some dick decides they want to 1st time Soraka top? im sorry but in my honest opinion. white knights like you are what is wrong with league

Slupydood1 votes

I agree that a strict meta enforcement is a bad thing, however there's a difference between that and picking something you've not done before in a complete unorthodox way in a competitive rank mode where people DO play the meta to have the highest chance of winning. Remember this is an idea that would only be available in Rank mode, so if people wanna do that kind of thing, normals are always available.

Slupydood1 votes

100% agreed, in Ranked, people do want to play the meta because it has already been experimented with and has been proven effective in a lot of cases. If people wanna do unorthodox things like Jungle Ashe or ADC Nidalee, by all means go for it, but please do it in normals.

Slupydood1 votes

This idea differs in that there needs to be majority vote/all your teammates have to agree to kick a person. You are right in that it's dumb that the leader from the previous team builder mode had ALL the power...at least from my memory? IDR how team builder was exactly. Also, I believe team builder queues were so long cuz nobody queued for it, and went to normals instead or something.

Ada Wong1 votes

I agree " I am against Riots "Auto Fill Option" as it has bring Toxicity to two matches the other day "Forcing me into roles I don't play with random players who absolutely have no friggling clue how to play, what masteries to run or what to do for that matter, so basically Auto Fill is once again creating a "Negative Experience" in my game right there in champion selection.

In game even if the game proceeds to go into game, Players are either.

A.) Toxic at champion select

B.) Toxic when the enemy gets fed hard by me because the ADC or support (FAILS TO DO EXACTLY) what they should within the given time they should have done it so enemy gets ahead and game gets tilted.

C.) Stay back sit on a turret do nothing while the player runs up dies a lot end up getting behind because they don't listen and creates negative experience.

1 or 2 Seasons ago before Riot changed this feature I had a stats page of nothing but losses are 0-10 if not worse because of the forced role and negative experience from players in lane with me like really huge negative experiences and got banned for (Intentional Feeding) Then (Role Change Came) My stats were not perfect because obviously players suck still nothing I can do about that (But My stats haven't really went an entire page of going 0-10 for example and such as negative as it was.

Riot needs to simply remove the "Automatic" Auto Fill feature, and put it back the way it was I would rather wait the longer wait personally than have negative experiences, arguments from others, Meta Lovers who argue, or get banned for "Feeding" because of negative experiences created from the match-ups.

For example an Ashe bot lane who is playing with a off meta Akali or Katarina Fizz but doesn't understand that they should use their ultimate on the enemy Sona player not the ADC. This is an example of ignorance, and something that will make my score very negative, and lead to arguing and a likely lost game.

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