My account was perm banned for toxicity

Flytan·Jan 23, 2016·1 votes·1,104 views

I've invested nearly a thousand dollars into my account over the years. Placements are a taxing time and my games were loaded with trolls. Naturally, being a normal person, I responded to these trolls. Although I regret the actions I took, I feel a permanent ban is far too harsh of a punishment for what I have said compared to what I've experienced in other games where I don't report the player.

I would like to appeal this ban and I have no clue how to do so since the tribunal somehow found it possible to ban me without hours of the offence.

20 Comments

SmokedAlmondsJan 23, 20164 votes

You can submit a support ticket if you want to appeal but unless you think it was a mistake it isn't going to be overturned. "other people are worse" is not going to get it overturned.

Perma bans are almost never for a single incident. The logs you are sent are what lead to you getting a punishment, your punishment history is what lead to that punishment being a permanent ban. Frequent mildly negative behavior can and will lead to permanent bans. Not just severe behavior like many people think.

Have you been punished in the past?

FlytanJan 23, 20161 votes

Yes, a few months ago I was banned for two weeks. However I've only been banned ONCE. Why would they take such a drastic step over something (my chat log really isn't that bad) when they have the options (and often do) permanently mute people. I've not called anyone anything worse than "moron/idiot". I've NOT used "retard" "kill yourself" or anything of the sort. Yet I see constant people say so in game without being punished. You say it shouldn't matter what other people think, well it probably should. It feels like I'm being prejudiced against if that is the case.

Hell, I'd love to be permanently muted. Wouldn't ever have to deal with anybody.

And if "mild" behavior can lead to permanent bans after ONE previous ban, that's absolute garbage. I've spent ludicrous money into this account and to lose it for THAT is simply unjust.

SmokedAlmondsJan 23, 20164 votes

A permanent ban is the standard punishment after a 14 day ban.

People doing those worse things are punished as well. I'm not really questioning that what you did wasn't as bad as some other things, merely that those minor things are considered unacceptable.

People who are permanently muted are more likely to troll. This is at least partly why in August they changed things to remove infinitely stacking chat restrictions.

If your behavior were truly mild, you should have had at least two chat restrictions before that. For these cases, permanent bans are the 4th punishment. Money spent is not a factor in punishments.

ModKnightsKemplarJan 23, 20164 votes

If you are toxic, you are toxic.

"Levels" of toxicity are imaginary. You are a positive influence on this game, or you are a negative influence on this game. You were banned because you were a negative influence on other player's experiences. If you didn't report other people for that, that's not Riot's fault.

FlytanJan 23, 20161 votes

Except LoL is the most toxic of any community despite being the harshest compared to any other game in terms of punishments. Riot's terrible stance on toxicity is why the game is so toxic. Whether or not I'm toxic shouldn't matter if the punishment is at a completely different level from the crime.

ModKnightsKemplarJan 23, 20163 votes

You are wrong. It is not the most toxic community. When you talk to people about the standards of conduct in this game, they are impressed because it is unprecedented for company to expect good behavior from players. It's a good thing, and you got banned because of it. Don't try to play the "they aren't doing enough card" when they are banning negative players like you.

Raptor851Jan 24, 20161 votes

Agreed, anyone who thinks LoL's community is the most toxic has clearly not played CS:GO

Mystery GhostJan 24, 20161 votes

{quoted}

If you are toxic, you are toxic.

"Levels" of toxicity are imaginary. You are a positive influence on this game, or you are a negative influence on this game. You were banned because you were a negative influence on other player's experiences. If you didn't report other people for that, that's not Riot's fault.

TELL THEM TO STOP SAYING THAT THEY GAVE MONEY AND GOT BANNED PLZ I GOT SICK OF IT

TractJan 23, 20163 votes

I've invested nearly a thousand dollars into my account over the years.

Money is absolutely irrelevant.

Placements are a taxing time and my games were loaded with trolls. Naturally, being a normal person, I responded to these trolls.

Sorry, that isnt normal behavior. If you where being flamed, you should have muted them. If you where flaming people because you believed them to be trolling, that is not acceptable in any way either.

Although I regret the actions I took, I feel a permanent ban is far too harsh of a punishment for what I have said compared to what I've experienced in other games where I don't report the player.

I suggest you post your logs.

I would like to appeal this ban and I have no clue how to do so since the tribunal somehow found it possible to ban me without hours of the offence.

You will have had multiple warning punishments, and if you stayed toxic, you got the ban. Please post your logs.

The Poetic ZedJan 23, 20162 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Jreyes456Jan 23, 20162 votes

Post your reform card and everyone is going to say" you deserved it" or something around those lines unless it was a mistake by riot, then you have to discuss about this with them but its highly likely it wasn't a mistake.

AnomanderJan 23, 20162 votes

Punishments are escalating.

10 game chat restriction 25 game chat restriction 14 day ban perma ban.

Amount of money spent on the game has no impact nor should it have a impact on punishments.

If you want traction in the community please post your chat logs. If there is nothing there you have nothing to worry about.

However even minor levels of toxic behavior will result in bans of it is a continuing behavior.

Rev HumpjoyJan 23, 20161 votes

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FlytanJan 23, 20161 votes

Yes because those types of responses are so much better than what I said in game.

Seriously?

rip feeIsbadJan 23, 20161 votes

Well, I got a 14 day ban for only telling people not to be ignorant. The story behind it is that whenever somebody rages at me or feels the need to blame me or whatever the case may be, I don't respond to them with toxicity or cursing or etc. However I do make them more angry than they already are by pointing out their littlest mistakes (Using the wrong your or there and etc.) This one game I played, my bot lane wasn't happy w/ my jungling because EVERY lane was being pushed hard and I tried to even out the work between. Imho, bot lane is the hardest to gank, idk why. So we ended up losing that game and bot lane was cussing up a storm at me. I just shrugged it off. So I queued up for another normal and what are the odds? The same people from last game! Yup.....big fat bummer. However while they were insulting me and cussing at me in the champ select, I just ignored them. When we get into game, those 2 people that were in my last game started talking trash about me in all chat. This guy was spelling Aatrox like "atrox" No big deal but its a little mistake that I can use to mess with him. Whenever he spelled it like this, I told him, "Don't be ignorant, it's Aatrox". All game. They cuss up a storm, I tell him not to be ignorant. So at the end of the game, I told him, "Gg you ignorant dipstick" I got banned, he sat there and smiled. This tribunal system like to screw people over. As I put it in my support ticket, you're arresting the store owner that just got robbed. Have a good day and good luck with your appeal!

FlytanJan 23, 20161 votes

Yup, it's all about who's in a good mood on whatever day it is. Tribunal has to be filled with people who just want power instead of actually giving out punishments that fit the crime.

MasterSomethingJan 23, 20163 votes

Tribunal hasn't been active in years bro.

RailiosJan 23, 20161 votes

http://tinypic.com/r/x7rpf/9

feed 800 games next time you wont be banned for that

SwinkssJan 24, 20161 votes

Honestly I wish riot would enforce a rule punishing players that abuse the report option, I've never been banned or even chat restricted myself but ive been reported many times for saying stuff like "Rushing deathcap on swain like that was a dumb move, you dont have any health to survive burst/cc lock for you ult to be effective" No Cussing, No Racism, nothing more said to the individual or any of my other teammates or enemy team, Their response is usually "muted and reported." and then i get this nifty little message saying how I verbally abused/ harassed them.

Samus72Jan 24, 20161 votes

I wouldn't mind seeing those who abuse the report feature punished more harshly either. But I doubt Riot would do that since the perception that they'd be punished would make people less likely to report anyone. And not in a good way either.