PERMA BAN FOR CALLING SOMEONE NOOB

Galaxy3z··1 votes·1,751 views

I did not flame and got perm ban I called somebody a noob and to uninstall game how is this flaming/toxic? All the games i play i play them serious i put money on my acc and now its gone for something like this? I see people flame all the time and not get banned why do i get a ban for almost nothing?

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SciFi Scrivener2 votes

First, "I called somebody a noob and to uninstall game", is toxic behavior. Secondly, you didn't post your chat log, which probably contains the even more toxic things you said that really got you banned. Either way, perma ban sucks, but that is one less toxic player to run into.

Galaxy3z1 votes

If thats toxic behaviour to you better go play my little pony And nah i was pretty calm after i had 14day ban so i didnt flame at all

The Cream Reaper1 votes

If thats toxic behaviour to you better go play my little pony

not toxic at all...

And nah i was pretty calm after i had 14day ban so i didnt flame at all

irf you hadn't flamed you wouldn't be permad right now, would you?:P

Kei1431 votes

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I see people flame all the time and not get banned why do i get a ban for almost nothing?

Cos you showed the system that you have a consistant (moderate) toxic behavior and refuse to change.

You probably escalated through the system while ignoring the warnings. So enough repeat offense is enough. They don't want you in their game cos of the environment you cause.

Galaxy3z1 votes

Dude i stopped flaming after my 14 day ban i only talked back dont act like you know better i didnt ignore the warning i listened

Kei1431 votes

I do know better. That's why I'm not permabanned.

You might have toned down your flame, but calling people noob and telling them to uninstall is still a small flame.

So lots of small flame can still burn a wood, which is what happened to you here.

Modi1 votes

If you say you didn't flame, post your unedited chat logs.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

There are plenty of players who are in this very moment just as superior to you as you were superior to the player you called a noob.

Do you think that you should be forced to stop playing the game simply because those higher skilled players disapprove of you?

HalcyonDweller2 votes

Hmm, I received a notification that you commented but it was deleted before I got here.

Please keep in mind that acting hostile towards another player and trying to make them quit playing this game is harmful to both them and to league as a whole. The more players in the game the better, for many reasons. Some of which include queue timers, matchmaking, and potential customers for Riot.

Riot should have (and likely has) given you ample opportunities to learn that it is wrong to harass or demean others, and that it is wrong to push players away from league. It is spelled out in the terms of service, again in the summoner's code, and yet again in reform cards you receive upon being punished by the system.

As such you are given a choice, conform to the standards of decency that we are all held to when interacting with other people, or be kicked out as you were when you got banned. Whether you feel it was fair or not is irrelevant, the paths laid out before you are not going to change simply because you feel strongly about it.

Galaxy3z1 votes

Would you please read what i said i DID change my behaviour after my 14 day ban NOW i got perm banned for communicating with TOXIC PLAYERS I WAS NOT BEING TOXIC

xXPeterNorthXx1 votes

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Would you please read what i said i DID change my behaviour after my 14 day ban NOW i got perm banned for communicating with TOXIC PLAYERS I WAS NOT BEING TOXIC

according to the cheerleaders on here, you calling someone noob might be detrimental to his health, well being and development as a human being. noobs have to be coddled and treated like royalty, not called for what they are. learn that and you will do better next time

Galaxy3z1 votes

i think this is completely bs im sorry but i see so many players flaming players for kill yourself get cancer etc I NEVER DID THAT i was responding in like a normal way why is riot banning me perma for this? i just dont get it give me a mute or something but perm ban? thats a little heavy for what i did

Magical Player1 votes

Post your logs your "normal way" may actually be considered toxic

Galaxy3z1 votes

But i do think you are right LoL should have different types of punishments its very weak that they do not have this

Modi1 votes

They do, but continually showing negative behavior will follow an escalation path.

PUNISHMENTS GENERALLY FOLLOW A BASIC ESCALATION PATH:

  • First Offense: 10 Game Chat Restriction
  • Second Offense: 25 Game Chat Restriction
  • Third Offense: Two Week Suspension
  • Fourth Offense: Permanent Suspension

However, it is possible to skip to a Two Week or Permanent suspension based on the severity of the behavior in the game. Excessive negative behavior can result in a Two-Week or Permanent suspension at any time without having a chat restriction on the account.

The same is with pretty much any punishment for breaking laws. For example, if I were to continually get speeding tickets, they would eventually revoke my driver's license.

HalcyonDweller3 votes

Lets throw out the word toxic. It's too vaguely defined and everyone has a different meaning for it. Talking in terms of 'toxicity' will lead to confusion and irritation for both of us. I'll talk with you about specific behavior though.

There are a wide variety of behaviors that Riot considers unacceptable in their game. Some of which are:

  • passive aggressiveness
  • bigotry
  • hostility
  • hate speech
  • harassment
  • intentional feeding
  • antagonizing others to receive a 'funny' reaction from them
  • etc. (other similar behaviors)

Now I personally think that each type of behavior should have it's own tree of punishment, so that a player who gets a 14-day ban for hate speech will not then be escalated to a permanent ban for passive aggressiveness.

Unfortunately Riot does not have a system that accounts for this sort of thing, so we wind up having cases such as yours where you likely had one type of behavior earn you the 14-day ban and then even though you stopped that behavior you still exhibited others that were also considered unacceptable and thus received the next tier of punishment upon being reported for those behaviors.

With the exception of hate speech and intentional feeding, you would normally move up through a series of chat restrictions, then to a 14-day ban, and lastly a permanent ban. The exception being that int-feeding or using hate speech results in immediate escalation to 14-day ban.

When you have recently had a 14-day ban you are on a sort of probation, it won't matter what sort of negative behavior you exhibit, nor how major or minor it is. If someone reports you and Riot sees any sort of negative behavior, they give you the boot.

Modi1 votes

You were punished because at least one player who saw the chat found it unacceptable (it was reported) and the IFS system concurred.

Your punishment was a permanent bad because you have consistently shown behavior of this nature.

There is a difference between the act of being punished and the level of harshness of the punishment that is applied.

ModPrandine1 votes

Unless you post your entire unedited chat logs here you're not gonna get much in the way of help. I will say though that telling people to uninstall is not considered acceptable behavior here, and that was most likely one of the contributing factors to your permaban.

General Esdeath 1 votes

When was your 14 day ban?

higura1 votes

noob = newbie out of brain.

even if most ppl see it as short for "newbie", is it still a pretty a-hole thing to run around calling random ppl you don't know and telling ppl to uninstall is also just a shitty thing to go around telling ppl...

also, the fact you got a perma ban means you have been warned about this sort of behavior before but ignored it. you're responsible for your own actions and how you behave, sorry to tell you, but if you belive, calling ppl names and telling them to uninstall a game just because they are bad at it is okay , then i recommend re-thinking how you interact with ppl you don't know online.

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