Ok so I havent been placed in a lower priority que for almost 4 years and have only afk 2 games recently and now im in low priority which is fine i can deal with that. But why do I have to wait 20 minutes!? Please fix this i have been playing this since 2012 and to not have any issues with low priority ques for 4 years to be hit with a 20 minute wait is rediculous!
#wtfRIOT
Beas7ie1 votesThe logic behind that(I didn't say I agree with it) is that they WANT that punishment to be extremely harsh and hurt bad to further deter people from doing it in the first place.
And if this means there's a some collateral damage casualties getting punished due to Ritos sometimes crappy client and servers, and/or events WAY beyond their control then so be it.
Grandma had a heart attack? Finish the game then you can visit her in the hospital.
Boss called you in early to work? No can do bossy boss, I gotta finish this game. This is serious bizness the entertainment of NINE people is on the line here! Much more important than this big bizness deal that may or may not decide if I can keep my job and continue feeding my family. It's K. They each have a knife and can live off the land if I get fired.
House catch on fire and is burning down? Don't you dare even THINK about bailing! You MUST stay there and finish that game even if it means that the fire department has to dig your charred body out of the ruins the next day.
Silent Gravity1 votesThose examples you gave are all pretty good reasons for leaving a game. That's why there's no penalty until it's a habit.
The punishment is incredibly mild. You are given a small punishment which is shorter than the amount of time that you wasted. If you consider that harsh, then you must consider the act of leaving as a horrendous atrocity, because it wastes more time than the punishment.
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Those examples you gave are all pretty good reasons for leaving a game. That's why there's no penalty until it's a habit.
The punishment is incredibly mild. You are given a small punishment which is shorter than the amount of time that you wasted. If you consider that harsh, then you must consider the act of leaving as a horrendous atrocity, because it wastes more time than the punishment.
Thing is leaver buster declares it a "habit" after as few as like 2 or 3 games. If it's ranked games you may start getting hit with a full on 5 game 20 min lpq after a SINGLE game. Even if it's 2 or 3 games, the amount of time in LPQ is usually greater than the time wasted.
Also keep in mind that if it's a legitimate connection on Riot's end with their servers or client, you still get penalized.
The punishment is usually greater than the crime. Like I said before I don't necessarily agree with it, but I also understand the logic and can see why they want to do you. You make a harsh punishment for even a minor crime and pretty much NO ONE will intentionally want to commit said crime.
Chermorg1 votesYou're wrong. Nobody gets a 20 min LPQ after their first leave/ask.
If it's a legitimate Riot issue, they enable Loss Prevention and disable LeaverBuster (and sometimes ranked as well) for the duration of the problems.
Beas7ie1 votesYou're wrong. Nobody gets a 20 min LPQ after their first leave/ask.
If it's a legitimate Riot issue, they enable Loss Prevention and disable LeaverBuster (and sometimes ranked as well) for the duration of the problems.
See my previously quoted reply to another post of yours on this thread. Penalty starts at 5 minutes for 5 games but after that, it jumps up to 20. At least in my case. And once you work off that negative karma by playing through games you will never get off that 20 min LPQ. You leave again EVER it's right back to the 20 min LPQ. Wait through that LPQ, get in a bad matchup, and dodge, and it's right back to that 20 min LPQ also. While not common, I've seen people get FAR more toxic and trolly in champ select if they really feel like its a bad matchup as they try and get someone else to dodge as if they dodge it's right back to LPQ. Even if no one dodges, then they'll still play in a game that's lost from the start and feed as much as they safely can(trying not to set off any inting red flags) just so they can get that game done and have one less in 20 min LPQ.
Riot will also only enable loss prevention and disable leaverbuster if it's an extremely serious issue affecting a large amount of players and games. Otherwise if it's an isolated incident, it's on you.
I know this from experience. About a month or so ago I started playing again after not playing for over a year, played a bunch of games without any major problems. A patch was released and the client updated. Suddenly I couldn't connect to games. It would be stuck in loading screen crash/bug splat. I'd try and get back in but by then game was remade and I had a mark on Leaverbuster. Thinking it was a freak accident I started a game in practice tool, it loaded up so I figured I was good to go, tried a normal game, and crash at loading screen. Game got remade, I got leaver mark. After this I had 5 min LPQ. I checked on the interwebs and changed some settings. Same damn thing happened.
I ended up uninstalling and reinstalling the entire game and that fixed the issue. Played a couple dozen or so games over the next week or so with no major issues. Left a ranked game(this could be a legitimate leave as in I deserved a Leaverbuster mark, I'm not arguing about that) because I was top lane going 4-0, but my team was doing horrible with EVERYONE feeding, and I'm talking the score was like 4-20 in the first ten minutes and we lost both mid and bot towers, while the other team got every dragon and rift herald at that point.
I tried to surrender but 2 "die hards" (more likely trolls trying to keep people as hostages in the game) refused so I said in /all Sorry if anyone is offended but I'm not staying stuck in this game and left. (Again not saying I was "right" to leave that game, that can be an argument for another day/thread) and then boom back to 5 game 20 min LPQ.
Work that off with ARAM games. Time goes by with no leaves then I get the "black loading screen". (It's actually not that uncommon you can find a couple threads of it on here) game wouldn't load at all. Never got in, game got remade and back to 20 min LQP. I may be an unusual case as I've been punished by LPQ when I've had only about 2 times I really "intentionally" left a game(the other was when someone DCed almost literally right after the remake window so I was stuck in a 4v5 ranked game that was going horribly because well it was 4 v5), and then just another game where there were connection issues on my end(Comcast decided to crap out for some reason and I had to go through the unplugging and replugging the router and what not.)
That got worked off and I haven't had any major problems recently but I can confirm from experience that YES, the LPQ and leaverbuster system is extremely harsh. Whether you agree or not is up to you, I'm not sure if it's right or wrong, but the logic is sound. Make the punishment harsher than it probably really should be in order deter people from committing the crime in the first place.
Does it work? It obviously can't fix connection issues, the game client, and network infrastructure regardless if the problems are on Rito's end or the player's end, but I have to admit that I haven't seen people outright leave games that often so maybe that logic is working. Also ranked leaves are punished much more harshly than normal leaves.
TLDR: Do you people not read books anymore, or even a news article or some other story that's about a page long anymore? READ MORE!
Chermorg1 votesI'm sorry to seem crass, but you're either not telling the truth about your recent punishments, or you're not telling the truth about the frequency.
The first offense is usually a 5 minute LP queue. I'd ask Riot support to clarify why it's a 20 minute the virtual first offense for you.
Beas7ie1 votesI'm sorry to seem crass, but you're either not telling the truth about your recent punishments, or you're not telling the truth about the frequency.
The first offense is usually a 5 minute LP queue. I'd ask Riot support to clarify why it's a 20 minute the virtual first offense for you.
First offense is 5 min, true, but after that it pretty much immediately jumps up to 20 and then stays there. It's fine if someone keeps leaving over and over, but if someone has legitimate problems and/or issues outof their control that made them DC and/or have to leave even after they get to 20 min mark, play TONS OF GAMES with no leaves, leave again, then Boom, here comes 20 min LPQ again.
