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Perma Banned for Saying I'm going to report a Troll

W3XT0N··2 votes·2,523 views

My first game (game 2), our mid lane (Fizz) died, and our Jungle (Poppy) cleared a minion wave of his. This caused Fizz to repeatedly run into the enemy to die and feed intentionally. He did it to top, mid, and bot, as well as taking poppy's jungle as well. All I did. The ONLY thing I did, was ask the other team to report him as well, partly to get him to stop trolling so we could continue the game, and partly to get results. And I assume that he reported me for doing that. I STRONGLY feel I should no be reprimanded for any part of that. It is clear as day in the chat log. On top of that, I played respectfully and my best to help us win the game despite having a disadvantage that I had no part of.

My second game (game 1). In the first round of pick for "intended champion" I was first pick, and I had chosen Illaoi. Someone on my team banned Ilaoi as an unprevoked troll on me. So to rectify the situation, I picked another champion I Was good with, Udyr, and the same Troll locked in Jungle to troll me again. Throughout the game, he followed me around stealing my jungle and trying to tilt me. I admit he got my goat. But I remained on task in game and did my best to play to win. I was not in the wrong in this occasion, and others on the team supported me, and were upset with this troll player. It's again, just this problem player that ends up reporting me and I get "counter reported" after doing nothing wrong. I admit I was a little Flamey, but I was responding to someone trolling me, and his Duo partner being Toxic AF the whole game to back him up. I was innocent compared to him.

Another note would be that I got 0 warning. I did not get a "Your account got reported, be more careful" or anything of the sort. Before now, I was suspended for much the same reasons as I'm being banned now, I made a ticket to dispute it, but it was denied, and I've played many games until now, and I haven't gotten a single warning since.

IMPORTANT The level of progression was: CHAT RESTRICTION > 14 DAY BAN > PERMA BAN. I have seen other players get a lot more in between these. I admit my chat restriction was TOTALLY warranted. I flammed hard for a couple games, but then much like my now perma ban, my 14 day ban was very similar to these instances where I get counter reported for reporting someone who was ACTUALLY being a problem player. The problem is that when someone reports you for something, they get 3 options, and they're going to use all 3 no matter what you ACTUALLY did. I guarantee you that I got reported for offensive language, or racism, or AFK or something in my "Game 2" When in all actuality I did 0 wrong. Literally nothing.

Game 1 W3XT0N: you're top Vi W3XT0N: no you're top W3XT0N: First you ban my champ with me being first pick W3XT0N: then I call jungle becaue u dicked my champ for no reason W3XT0N: then u pick jungle over me W3XT0N: Vi no one is on ur side W3XT0N: go to W3XT0N: top W3XT0N: that's what happens when you;re a troll piece of shit W3XT0N: I'm under leveled because someone's taking my jungle, what do you expect? W3XT0N: YES, I PICKED ILLOI TOP AND U BANNED HER %%%GOT W3XT0N: I WAS FIRST PICK W3XT0N: I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ON UR PREFRENCE W3XT0N: ME W3XT0N: m2 W3XT0N: for what W3XT0N: what exactly W3XT0N: OMG W3XT0N: STOP IT QUIN W3XT0N: QUIN STOP FEEDING W3XT0N: cuz ur not tilted as fuck in a just before reset game W3XT0N: i didnt do anything but ya go for it W3XT0N: yee W3XT0N: the reset is in an hour W3XT0N: it litterally means nothing what rank ur are W3XT0N: quin W3XT0N: you're 3 and fucking 8 W3XT0N: i have a better score than u do W3XT0N: so shut the fuck up srsly stop flaming W3XT0N: aw no stun

Game 2 W3XT0N: i need ganks bot this lulu is bad W3XT0N: poppy did u read chat? W3XT0N: poppy can u gank bot plz W3XT0N: fizz... W3XT0N: why are you trolling W3XT0N: gg my team is trolling each other W3XT0N: ya I am W3XT0N: i don't know he's just trolling W3XT0N: can you tell fizz that we;re all reporting him and you will too if he doesn't stop, he muted all of us W3XT0N: fizz please leave W3XT0N: can u please repory him W3XT0N: guys, seriously, can u report him? Can I get a response from you? Like, I know this shit has happend to all of you guys before, it would be really cool if I could get that peace of mind ya know? W3XT0N: thanks. W3XT0N: 7 W3XT0N: are the rest of you going to report gim, or are you just going to take the free win and the bad karma W3XT0N: Did you guys know you get a pop up message when someone gets banned W3XT0N: and u report them? W3XT0N: so if we all do it, we can see that he gets banned W3XT0N: fizz please let me have the faarm... W3XT0N: opppy W3XT0N: K, poppy W3XT0N: im getting frustrated with yo W3XT0N: I asked you to come to drag 5 tiems now W3XT0N: You're the jungle W3XT0N: that's your job. W3XT0N: WHT THE FUCK W3XT0N: fizz W3XT0N: i need th farm W3XT0N: Wtf guys,,,, W3XT0N: we need to group again W3XT0N: gg W3XT0N: please report this fizz, I swear to god you'd make my day W3XT0N: intentional feeding and unsportsmanlike. W3XT0N: replease report

As you can see, I don't believe I have anything here that's worth being permanently banned from the game, I've spent SOOOOO many hours on this account, probably over 10,000 games. Not joking. I've spent a lot of money on it. I LOVE league of legends, and I don't feel like this is a good indication how Riot treats its players who actually are a positive influence on the game. If I Can get a second chance out of this, I would be appreciative. Or to be pointed in the direction of where to go from here. Thanks for your time.

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31 Comments

iDrink Moar Beer3 votes

To be quite fair man, and let me just state that I'm sure to some extent the truth is always somewhere in the middle, but it seems to me that you did more typing and unnecessary banter in your games rather than playing the game.

This is an internet game, there is going to be trolls and "noobs" everywhere you go. What I have learned in experience is that a simple "mute" goes a long way. You won't have to see what he/she types for the rest of the match and you can focus on what you're doing, not only for yourself, but for your team.

Anyway, I hope the best to you, but there was a lot of questionable language you used in those 2 chat logs, if that was your very first offense or something then I could see why you feel the way you do. I'm not calling you out man, all I'm saying is that what you were typing seems to me a little more than just rage, there was a lot of hatred and offensive material that the rest of your team was seeing for the duration of the game, and to be honest you have no clue how your teammates felt about it too.

What's worse than 1 troll on the team, is 1 troll + 1 individual who spends more time with both hands on the keyboard instead of 1 on the keyboard and 1 on the mouse...

Just my 2 cents. :/

W3XT0N1 votes

I feel you. I mean, I do type fast, but am I 0.2% of the worst players kind of bad?

W3XT0N3 votes

Maybe I am, I dunno, I've seen some very questionable things, and I do hope to have a chance to do better in the future, but I would be more accepting maybe if I had afk'd or trolled or something. I did my best with what I was given, and unfortunately I voiced my opinion when I should have been silent.

iDrink Moar Beer2 votes

I will agree with you that on a Taco Bell level from Mild to Fire, your comments/chat log was more on the Mild end of the spectrum haha, I have definitely seen people say much more nasty things and what not.

W3XT0N1 votes

Does riot ever lift a ban do you know? Honestly, League has gotten me through some hard times becuase it pulls my attention away from life's troubles. Having my account would mean the world to me.

iDrink Moar Beer2 votes

Anything's possible dude, we live on a giant sphere that somehow floats consistently in an infinite area of "space" LOL.

On a serious note man, try reaching out to a moderator or someone of the likes. I've never been banned on Leagues, so I myself, don't have an answer for that.

W3XT0N1 votes

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Ya I wrote a ticket, I was hoping ppl would vote in my favor and that would help but that doesn't seem to be the case. It's 5am and I'm still freaking out. Thanks anyway dude, you're alright.

Bettnachleger2 votes

No, Riot never lift a perma ban. (only if it was a mistake by riot, but this isn't the case here)

Zable Fahr2 votes

Does seem unreasonable. It seems the actual trolls are never the ones getting banned because I just see them constantly despite me and my team frequently reporting them.

W3XT0N1 votes

Thanks man, I get I'm not perfect, but I don't feel like I fall under the 0.02%

Envy Sin2 votes

It only takes one report. As you have now seen.

Asking people to report a player is against the rules (Been trying to tell people this)

W3XT0N2 votes

I actually had no idea. That makes sense. If I end up being able to reform, I'd probably just secretly report someone. Seeing as now I know where it's gotten me.

Awkward Couch2 votes

Well I wish you the best of luck in reforming Summoner!

W3XT0N1 votes

Thanks!

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

W3XT0N: YES, I PICKED ILLOI TOP AND U BANNED HER %%%GOT W3XT0N: can you tell fizz that we;re all reporting him and you will too if he doesn't stop, he muted all of us W3XT0N: can u please repory him W3XT0N: guys, seriously, can u report him? Can I get a response from you? Like, I know this shit has happend to all of you guys before, it would be really cool if I could get that peace of mind ya know? W3XT0N: are the rest of you going to report gim, or are you just going to take the free win

Hate speech (the homophobic slurs) is taken very seriously so easily results in escalated punishments, and trying to get others to mass report a player is harassment. Even that aside you were extremely negative throughout the entire game, and nothing said was even relevant to the game.

Mass reporting doesn't even do anything. Punishments are calculated per match, not report, so your 1 report is just as good as 8 more. It's pointless, and as I said already, nothing more than harassment. Just don't do it.

Most likely this permaban was the result of a long history of negative behavior, not just 2 games. Punishments are now dealt in 4 steps;

  • 10 game chat restriction
  • 25 game chat restriction
  • 14 day account ban
  • Permanent account ban

It takes 3 months for your next punishment tier to go down 1 step, and in extreme cases (such as hate speech and death threats) Riot may escalate you multiple steps. Most likely though this was coming after a 14 day ban, I'm guessing? Even minor offenses (this was not minor) will add up to the next punishment if you keep doing it.

It is best for you to just mute and report players that are trolling or being abusive. It's Riot's job to take care of them, and getting into a fight like this in chat just causes more problems for everybody, usually getting you reported more often than the person that triggered your behavior.

Edit: Side note; no amount of time or money gives you special privileges in this game or any other. It's best not to mention it because it gives the impression that you think you can pay off Riot to break the rules. Riot will not remove a punishment unless the error was on their part, sorry.

If you have any questions, please ask.

-DTN

W3XT0N2 votes

Honestly, on the homophobic slur, I would have to totally agree with you. I'm actually the first one to speak up against other people saying it. It's not very in character of me, and it sort of speaks to how pissed I was that I shot that bomb, and for that I apologize, but considering the context and the absolutely infrequent usage, I feel like I should be given another chance in my opinion.

Angry Monster3 votes

no

Why does everyone think that their rage is an excuse? Plus you could of gotten reported for calling on reports of another player. It does not matter if you have 1 report or 9 in a game. As long as your report weight according to riot is good/truthful they get a mark towards review.

W3XT0N2 votes

Seeing as I apologized, and said it wasn't in character, I'm admitting that it was wrong of me. I'm not saying it's an excuse. That's what an apology is. An admission of guilt. I also apologize for not being more knowledgeable on how the banning system works.

W3XT0N1 votes

To your edit, Ya, I can see what you're saying. What I'm trying to get across is that I'm very invested in the game and I take it seriously. The time put in I'd like to mention that if you take a look at my entire time playing League, I feel like my influence is more of a positive one, as opposed to a negative one. I would like to note that I'm supposed to be part of the 0.02% of players that are bad enough to report. Can you honestly say that I fit that bracket? I feel like in my examples of the other problem players, my actions are outweighed by theirs a little bit, and if this is me at my worst, I don't personally feel like I do fall into that category, despite admittedly being hot headed.

W3XT0N2 votes

Honestly, seeing the voting not go in my favor, I'm more open to the fact that I can still yet be a more responsible player. 2 wrongs don't make a right. I dun goofed. :(

Penns2 votes

The voting is not going in your favor because thats what this community does, dw about it lol

W3XT0N1 votes

Hey thanks man :)

SeekerofSilence2 votes

I like how you say you're of positive influence to the game when both your chatlogs were toxic as pie. :)

Deserved.

W3XT0N1 votes

Keep in mind this is me at my worst. Our of 10,000 games. This is as bad as it gets for me. You've never said Boo to anyone? Let's get real now :\

SeekerofSilence4 votes

You probably had bans beforehand, so I'll call it a day and see you as a frequent flamer.

However, I read your comments in the discussion (which I didn't when I wrote my first comment) seem like you genuinely want to reform. I wish you luck.

W3XT0N2 votes

Thanks. Any way this goes I'm glad at least people can recognize that I'm not an asshole by nature.

alasarcher1 votes

U didnt get banned for reporting troll. U got banned for homophobia. Thats unacceptable and inexcusable ,especially considered situation. U dont get punished for calling someone gay, but for comparing their bad actions with homosexuality, implying that trolls are annoyance like homosexuals. Thats one of things that cant ever be forgiven. In this age hate speech is not tolerated

W3XT0N1 votes

Honestly if you look at my chat log in the last 2 years thisnis probably the only time I've said it. I'm really agaisnt it as well. It was a slip up that I feel really shitty about to be honest. I'm an art student. A lot of my classmates are LGBTQ. By best friend is Pansexual ffs. I didn't even know that existed before I met THEM. Lgtbq is something I strongly support and this was a one time offnce.

W3XT0N1 votes

As humans we are prone to say things we don't mean when we are triggered. If I'm getting real with you all, I'm taking care of my widowed sick grandma right now and busting out a slur like that was one of those things where you say the worst possible thing you can think of to express your anger. I was angry and in that context I said that Real deal shitty word. It's not an excuse but I honestly would feel worse knowing someone thought I was a homophobe rather than my account getting banned.

W3XT0N1 votes

Thank you to the people who changed their vote to No after reading the comments :)

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