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How did this get me banned?

Submittion··2 votes·1,094 views

Game 2 Submittion: this akali is trolling. Submittion: she went mid, i got it first Submittion: then she lanejacked top Submittion: now shes trying to jungle without smite Submittion: now shes gonna be the third person bot Submittion: and she just insulted me Submittion: and now shes mid Submittion: report the fk out of her thanks Submittion: report akali, shes doing whatever the fuck she wants. Submittion: no team play here Submittion: she went from top, to bot, to mid Submittion: now shes staying mid because she doesnt like the fact that i called her out Submittion: and now i lost half my farm and potentially 2 kills because of akali Submittion: shes gamethrowing Rn Submittion: reporting you too Submittion: Im pretty sure all of the people who are backtalking me and are trolling, have at least 4 bans under their belts Submittion: like him ^ Submittion: and him ^ Submittion: and you Submittion: and this is why a 3 strike system is a bad thing Submittion: says 0/5

Im not sure how these logs got me banned, because i was litterally flamed at and accused of gamethrowing beforehand, and when these guys flamed me i muted them moments after, i did everything in my power to avoid a ban on this game and this set of logs got me banned for toxicity, I wasint gamethrowing at all and i ended the game with a score of 2/5, doing my job in the midlane, whilst the akali did whatever the fuck she wanted, lanejacking everyone and feeding with a score of 1/8 and 42 farm, while i had double hers. [sg-lux-2]

50 Comments

BeatzBoyFTW5 votes

Did you acknowledged that you were toxic af in Game 1, that you left it out? Cz that says enough about why you got punished.

Pika Fox2 votes

Asking people to report others is generally something i report people for. Especially if youre asking me to report someone on your team if im on the enemy team.

I literally dont care, nor can i see your chat. Its just needless BM, and generally the people saying it are the ones deserving of being reported anyway.

If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. The system is good at finding consistently toxic people. It doesnt care if 1 person or 9 people report someone in one game, so asking for reports doesnt help.

Telephone Booth2 votes

Why do you assume you only got punished for this log from one game? They even sent you more than one, and you still come to the conclusion it was only this log that you were punished for?

Submittion1 votes

Every time i Ended up arguing with someone, i muted them after, but i still got banned?

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Was this a 14 day or permaban?

Submittion1 votes

A 14 day.

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

Basically the entirety of your chat is constant harassing of the Akali.

Yes, I understand she may have been trolling, but that still does not excuse you from also breaking the rules. If you felt that she should be punished for what she did, all that was required was for you to report her, as one report has the same worth as 9.

As a heads up, this is the final warning on your account. After the 14 day ban, if you are even the slightest bit toxic, you will be permabanned. It takes several months of actually playing the game in order for your punishment tier to scale down one, so if you can't keep things like this log to yourself, my advice to you would be to /muteall at the start of the game.

Submittion1 votes

Then explain how i got banned, half the game reported me because i asked them to report me and they turned the blame on me.

Submittion1 votes

Also, Why cant i know when they get a strike on their account? i only know when they get banned for it, why cant i know when my reports are actually doing something?

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

Because it's not your right to know that. Everyone has the right to privacy, and Riot will not reveal that to anyone. Even the ban messages don't explicitly say who it was that got punished.

And you got banned as you likely had a prior history of punishment, and showed that the prior warnings did not temper your toxicity, and you were given the next punishment on the tier list. Whether or not it was actually all 4 people that reported you didn't matter, as it would have had the same effect as 1. All a report does is trigger the system to review the game logs of the person reported, and then issue the appropriate reaction.

Submittion1 votes

Explain? YOU KNOW WHEN THEY ARE BANNED, BUT NOT WHEN YOUR REPORT DOES SOMETHING.

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

No, you don't know when they are banned. You sometimes may get a notification saying a punishment was issued. That's it.

(as an aside, if you could consolidate comments into a single reply, as opposed to posting multiple single line comments, it would be appreciated. Easier to have a unified discussion when everything is in one place)

Death threats and slurs certainly are bad (and in fact get you an instant 14 day ban), they are not the only things that are bad. If you are consistently toxic, you will eventually reach that same 14 day ban. Swearing is fine -- just not when it's directed at another player in an attempt to demean them (Ex: "Fuck, I misplayed that" is ok, "FUCK YOU SWAIN STOP FEEDING" is not)

Submittion1 votes

Explain why It is inconsistent?

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

I'm having trouble explaining something to you that I already explained. Twice. Getting an explicit message that "x player is banned" is much different then a practically random message saying that "someone got a punishment". Not a ban, a punishment. This includes chat restrictions.

And if people are trolling games and running it down mid, then report them. They don't have to be saying it chat. The two things are entirely different systems.

And I don't really understand what your point about assigned roles is.

zPOOPz1 votes

Off-topic - I know I've complained many times about people writing wall of text and not know how to use paragraphs. Are you trying to be on the opposite end of that spectrum with TOO MUCH PARAGRAPHS (or very short replies). Perhaps you would consider a small wall of text over 10+ replies with small sentences/questions.

Submittion1 votes

I hate the feeling of being helpless. and they constantly do that to me!

Submittion1 votes

What you are saying, doesnt make sense, you report people and know if you give them a 14 day ban or perma or chatban, but not if your report contributes to that?

xFresko3 votes

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What you are saying, doesnt make sense, you report people and know if you give them a 14 day ban or perma or chatban, but not if your report contributes to that?

What infraction they get has nothing to do with if you get to see the pop up. That pop up tends to be a rarity. It has a pretty low chance of showing, and tbh, Riot should remove it from the game. All it does is make people think nothing happens to people they report if they dont see it pop up. Even so, the pop up showing like 5% of the time is way more knowledge you get than most other games.

But look through this forum. It's pretty obvious that reports definitely do something with the amount of people who whine about bans.

Stop arguing then muting. Just mute, then report. Nothing you say will change anything anyways, so you may as well not say anything.

Submittion1 votes

YOU DONT KNOW IF YOUR REPORT REGISTERS, UNLESS IT ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING, SO THE ONLY GUY THAT KNOWS HE DID SOMETHING, IS THE GUY WHO FINALLY REPORTS HIM FOR THE BAN!

Submittion1 votes

Besides, what the hell do you do about people who just go down midlane at the start of a game, dont speak. they just go in and play duo mid, even though they got a role liketop?

Submittion1 votes

Silent gamethrowers?

Submittion1 votes

If so, why does assigning roles in ranked exist?

Anatera1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Wolf King,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MHZvuInk,comment-id=00010000000000010000,timestamp=2018-02-14T08:50:12.313+0000)

Because it's not your right to know that. Everyone has the right to privacy, and Riot will not reveal that to anyone. Even the ban messages don't explicitly say who it was that got punished.

And you got banned as you likely had a prior history of punishment, and showed that the prior warnings did not temper your toxicity, and you were given the next punishment on the tier list. Whether or not it was actually all 4 people that reported you didn't matter, as it would have had the same effect as 1. All a report does is trigger the system to review the game logs of the person reported, and then issue the appropriate reaction.

Is that why there used to be a rioter who would go around telling people why they got banned publicly on the forums and making a general spectacle? Because those individuals had a right to privacy?

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Except those people waived that right when they made a post on a public forum asking about it. For example, how much money I’ve spent on League is something that’s only between me and Riot. But if I were to say that I’ve spent $3425, suddenly that is no longer a private fact, and can be used by anyone.

Anatera1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Wolf King,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MHZvuInk,comment-id=0001000000000001000000060000,timestamp=2018-02-14T21:27:30.641+0000)

Except those people waived that right when they made a post on a public forum asking about it. For example, how much money I’ve spent on League is something that’s only between me and Riot. But if I were to say that I’ve spent $3425, suddenly that is no longer a private fact, and can be used by anyone.

Yeah, you can sugarcoat it like that if you'd like, but it is what it is. He did it to make a spectacle. He wasn't subtle, he wasn't understanding. He did it when people asked for privacy too because they didn't understand what the ban email meant. That whole "you got what you deserved and you should be treated like garbage as well" mentality is old and archaic, which is disappointing why someone at Riot would subscribe to it.

Submittion1 votes

It really does effect toxicity.

Submittion1 votes

If i knew what i was doing actually did something, i would feel better.

Submittion1 votes

also i didint wish death on them, or was racist? i didint even swear at her, i swore on her name. Once.

MachstDuBierHase1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Wolf King,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MHZvuInk,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-02-14T08:40:34.226+0000)

Basically the entirety of your chat is constant harassing of the Akali.

Yes, I understand she may have been trolling, but that still does not excuse you from also breaking the rules. If you felt that she should be punished for what she did, all that was required was for you to report her, as one report has the same worth as 9.

As a heads up, this is the final warning on your account. After the 14 day ban, if you are even the slightest bit toxic, you will be permabanned. It takes several months of actually playing the game in order for your punishment tier to scale down one, so if you can't keep things like this log to yourself, my advice to you would be to /muteall at the start of the game.

Shouldnt the main focus be to ensure quality of service and remove ppl like Akali from the game, not punish ppl like OP for 14days just because we need to be snowflakes?

the only major thing that stands out is "Submittion: report the fk out of her thanks" that would justifity a penality if at all. The oversensitive and the #noRoom #noSkin #noRespect policy is a bs and a slap into everyones face just because you wanna enforce a save enviorment.

you should put into consideration that your effort failed and go after trolls instead of "flamers" or negative ppl.

swordofsun1 votes

What about the 3 other people in the game? Don't they deserve a game without someone complaining constantly about a situation they are already aware of? Do their feelings on the matter not count?

Isn't it more of a snowflake approach to think the only person that matters is you* and your ability to complain? Disregarding the other people affected by the chat seems to be more snowflakey than anything else.

*general not specific you

MachstDuBierHase1 votes

{quoted}

What about the 3 other people in the game? Don't they deserve a game without someone complaining constantly about a situation they are already aware of? Do their feelings on the matter not count?

Isn't it more of a snowflake approach to think the only person that matters is you* and your ability to complain? Disregarding the other people affected by the chat seems to be more snowflakey than anything else.

*general not specific you

Ofc they do. But I stand by my assesment that the one player who is playing bad or trolling/is inting on purpose is the cause for the OP to be "negative". IF that player wouldnt be in the game and fuck up as muc has he does - I'm fairly certain that ppl like OP or me wouldnt "complain" so much about beeing matched with 'em.

Right now there are a lot of kids playing over free holidays in EUW and they are trolling the shit out of it.. my W/L is 5/15 that makes every 3games a Loss due to their stupidity, arrogance and their inability to understand this game. Mostly because they are not of age yet Rito failes to adept to this.

Ofc you could say I'm just plainly bad but the fact is, they dont give a flying fart and care more - as stated above - about the ~negativity-free enviroment.

Its like living in a house with cracked walls, broken windows and you just turn up the heat during winter instead of fixing the house. Making the game more strict does not change the fact that the house is still a mess

swordofsun1 votes

If I understand your position correctly it is this: You're saying that you want to complain about someone making the game miserable for you.

I can empathize with that.

My questions, which you still haven't answered, is this: What about the other three people in the game not complaining or being negative? Why do they not matter? Why are your feelings more important then theirs?

They aren't complaining or being negative. Why do you think it's okay to to make those three people sit in a game which now has two people causing problems instead of just one?

MachstDuBierHase1 votes

{quoted}

If I understand your position correctly it is this: You're saying that you want to complain about someone making the game miserable for you.

I can empathize with that.

My questions, which you still haven't answered, is this: What about the other three people in the game not complaining or being negative? Why do they not matter? Why are your feelings more important then theirs?

They aren't complaining or being negative. Why do you think it's okay to to make those three people sit in a game which now has two people causing problems instead of just one?

No, I want Riot Games to do their fucking job and remove or punish bad people and ensure that they get a 5-50+ Bot games (or Draft WIN ) punishment before they can play other modes again and ruin the gameplay for everyone included.

This was effective in ranked before and people need to be forced back to play in order to 'git gud'.

It is not my job to carry 3 people in one game with help of the midlaner, while im playing vs a perfectly working team. I'm sick of people telling me that I am negative when with something that does not even deserve the name 'toxic trash' because they are so rotten, even rats or other animals wouldnt touch that garbage. (YES I am out of line with that choice of words, according to ToA)

AS to you answer your question: Not only other remaning players on my (or the enemy team; ALL CHAT complains anyone?) deserve a decent and harmornic game but EVERY player should be able to enjoy it. Nobody should waste their time with a wall of complainments but in return - nobody should be forced to play with ppl who are arrogant, cant play team and do not understand the basics of this game --

The common reply is ~its just a game; its just a normal. Normal is just a pick-mode; it does not give you entitlement to ruin the experience or waste the time of your teammates.

The moment you connect and play with other ppl online its a waste of their time as much as it is yours, if you dont understand its simply not just a game any longer at that point people should be punished.

But maybe I am just expecting to much from a game company that has clearly shown it preferes safespaces, sexual orientation and genderism over basics, gamedesign and productivity... And yes, since there have been recent changes in the employee structure this game has become less of what it used to be and it to speak about those topics often end up with a removal of the comment or a ban from the board itself.

swordofsun1 votes

So you'd punish everyone who doesn't play ranked by putting these people with them?

It is not my job to carry 3 people in one game with help of the midlaner, while im playing vs a perfectly working team.

You don't need to carry, you just need to not drag the team down. I still don't see how 3 people focusing on the game and 2 people fighting is a better win condition than 4 people focused on the game and 1 person trolling. It's a hard game either way.

I'm sick of people telling me that I am negative when with something that does not even deserve the name 'toxic trash' because they are so rotten, even rats or other animals wouldnt touch that garbage.

Going out on a limb here, but I'm thinking this is why you're being called negative. I can't imagine a situation where calling someone that over a game is justified. And I've been in some pretty toxic games.

Not only other remaning players on my (or the enemy team; ALL CHAT complains anyone?) deserve a decent and harmornic game but EVERY player should be able to enjoy it.

How does your arguing with another player or being negative towards them create a decent and harmonic game?

Nobody should waste their time with a wall of complainments but in return - nobody should be forced to play with ppl who are arrogant, cant play team and do not understand the basics of this game --

Again, going out on a limb, but has it occurred to you that you're creating this sort of environment for the other people in the game? You are forcing people to play with someone who is filling the chat with negative/non-productive stuff when you argue with another team mate.

But maybe I am just expecting to much from a game company that has clearly shown it preferes safespaces, sexual orientation and genderism

Just pointing out another position, but have you considered that by making the game a place where people can reasonably expect to not encounter various prejudices and negativity they've expanded their player base? The fact that people are punished for hate speech and the like can be seen by the number of people complaining about their bans. The knowledge that even if they come across things like this it will be taken care of has likely brought in people who would have otherwise not given League a chance.

And again: Why do your feelings matter more than the other people in your games?

Or to rephrase: Why does one person's desire to hurt someone or use hurtful language outweigh the other person's desire to not be hurt?

S1ckAduCk1 votes

I can see y u got banned u talk to much and ur toxic as well just ask for the report and move on also u went at evryone flaming them jus mute report move on stop ttyping so muc if they trolling screenshot mute report on to the next game

Submittion1 votes

Explain please? I did mute the toxic players.

Submittion1 votes

also being active in chat isint toxic?

S1ckAduCk1 votes

Being active is not toxic however repeatedly asking for report xyz in all chat is toxic behavior and is seen as such also u type alot and in a very harsh tone as they would say even though to u it seems none toxic trust me it does come off as such as i said if someone trolling or trash talking just insta mute and report them dont waste time spamming “report report report” and narrate what they are doing thats also toxic just mure report move on with ur life and the game

Submittion1 votes

If you kept reporting rulebreakers all the time and never knew if your report did anything, you would be pissed and feel like it wasint effective.

Ahri Baka1 votes

Okay well , you were toxic kind of , but I don't think you should get banned for this I had many toxic players in my matches , reported them and they still playing normal , they even wished death for my family , I even have toxic friends that I always play with , they are toxic in most of matches , but they still never get banned , and I had a real nice friend , who said once " kys " to a Zed who was feeding and wishing death for her family , she got banned for that

J0kèr1 votes

Riot stupid system ...

Pandemic Punch1 votes

Yep, those "Game 2" chat logs are not worthy of a ban in my eyes. Pretty stupid. However, you are breaking Riot's rules since you were harassing someone by threatening to report them.

That said, your behavior in this thread is going to make Riot believe that they made the correct decision.

CodyXSavageX1 votes

basically harassed the Akali work around trolls to help you win don't antagonize them doesn't help you win the game, don't encourage toxic behavior. I know its hard to do sometimes but you need to keep a positive outlook on the game and try using akali behavior to your advantage like encouraging them to gank stuff like that

Fegone1 votes

OK, so where is Game 1? Why are you leaving it out? For all we know your chat logs of Game 1 contained racial slurs, homophobic slurs, combined with the occasional 'kys'. And they you're reported right after in another game and get punished and wonder why?

But even without seeing Game1, you clearly are a toxic person. You call out other people, insult them, and your behavior on the forum just exemplifies your attitude as a toxic person in general. I wouldn't want to play with you. I would report you. And I would be glad if you got banned.

Bruh im ok1 votes

lol lvl 19 dude got 14 days ban too soon i guess?

Anomander1 votes

EVERY SINGLE line was a negative comment on a teammate. Also this was only game 2 where was game 1?

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