Is there seriously nothing I can do to reverse a permaban ?

Keegan320·Jun 3, 2016·1 votes·1,765 views

Last game I had 3 teammates that wouldn't quit bitching at me, admittedly I was rude in defending myself but no worse than they were being for no good reason. Here's the logs. commentary in parenthesis

Game 1 Keegan320: WOW Keegan320: FYUCK THAT FUCKSJDFKLSAJDF ( This wasn't directed at anyone, got wrecked by my laner is all) Keegan320: spam pings care then dives tower Keegan320: lol Keegan320: lol yeah im the scrub cause u dont ult (got blamed by a teammate for making a bad play when i wasn't even there at the time) Keegan320: i agree Keegan320: ok Keegan320: no worreis Keegan320: i just wish they werent all fucking mid Keegan320: i was just fukcing fine v talon Keegan320: i get bot lane coming mid cause they pushed too hard? Keegan320: lol k Keegan320: lol k (decided not to take part in the bullshit trash talk here) Keegan320: lol Keegan320: if you think false reporting is reportable, like i do, report kindred and fiddle please Keegan320: what does that even mean Keegan320: lol Keegan320: i have 200k as zyra Keegan320: i dont need your 400 game advice (Guy telling me how to play zyra. I see that I was rude, but they were rude too) Keegan320: next time ping if you want me, though Keegan320: typed like 3 seconds before i die Keegan320: and nah Keegan320: go check my zyra ranked stats Keegan320: im better Keegan320: nah you can check my stats Keegan320: not wastin my time on bronze idiots (guy challenges me to 1v1) Keegan320: lol Keegan320: k u win youre the best kindred Keegan320: gj Keegan320: im not in bronze Keegan320: im in gold Keegan320: bwahahaha Keegan320: go check my stats noob Keegan320: i already told you Keegan320: then get gold yall Keegan320: bet you cant lol (As I said, know i'm being condescending but they were too) Keegan320: check my damage end game then Keegan320: and tell me i didnt carry Keegan320: you'll see Keegan320: k bud Keegan320: ur so good Keegan320: u win Keegan320: ur the best Keegan320: thats why im gold and you're not Keegan320: report fiddle for unrightful report threats pls (fiddle has been spamming Report zyra all game) Keegan320: and kindred lucian for unsportsmanlike (both constantly bitching at me) Keegan320: sigh. Keegan320: grow up Keegan320: how so? Keegan320: lol Keegan320: lol Keegan320: nah Keegan320: false Keegan320: yeah? Keegan320: what are you then? Keegan320: thats what i thought Keegan320: me neither Keegan320: i have like 20 games Keegan320: how so ? Keegan320: i havent said shit except defending myself Keegan320: reporting you and fiddle for harass Keegan320: lol Keegan320: good one bud Keegan320: report kind and fiddle for harassment please Keegan320: check my stats Keegan320: nub Keegan320: Gg

And now i'm permabanned. I had recently been banned (Rightfully), but this game I dont feel like I did anything worthy of a renewed ban.

And apparently there's nothing I can do. I don't even know what to try to do. Is there no hope?

13 Comments

UberfragJun 3, 20165 votes

Just reading that log I can see you are being passive aggressive and trying to provoke people.

You'd already been banned once and still you didn't learn your lesson to just shut up in chat. You deserve the perma ban and riot will never remove it for you.

Create a new account, that's all you can do

Keegan320Jun 3, 20161 votes

My teammates were encouraging in all chat to report me before I even said anything.

TwigglesJun 3, 20162 votes

"But they started it" is not, and has never been a valid excuse. If you had muted them (and possibly reported if you were irritated enough with them) and not retaliated, then you'd be in a match instead of posting here.

You were begging people to report your teammates for a significant portion of the game, which is itself a punishable offense. Begging for reports is useless, as toxicity reports only flag a game for a behavior check, and more reports in one game doesn't make the system check any faster or harder. It only takes your one report to flag the game for behavioral review. The system is designed this way to prevent premades from holding solo players hostage.

Report begging is punishable because it is an effort by you to incite a group against an individual, and as such is considered a form of harassment on top of being pointless as I described above. Had you simply muted and reported them instead of joining in their shenanigans, then they might have been making this thread instead of you. At the very least, they'd be a step closer to a punishment, and you would still be playing the game.

I hope I was able to clear things up for you, and I wish you the best should you decide to make a new account. Should you respond to this post, know that any response from me will likely not arrive until sometime tomorrow, as it is 3:30 where I live and I'm about to pass out.

Good night, and good luck.

Keegan320Jun 3, 20161 votes

Considering the fact that my teammates were threatening to report me before I said anything at all and the fact that I was banned within a minute of the game finishing (showing that no human checked to see I the reports were valid), it's apparent that it didn't matter what I said. I was banned because 3 partied teammates didn't like the way I played, and decided to report me even before i said anything.

TwigglesJun 3, 20163 votes

Checked back real quick before bed and I have to ask.

Did you even read what I wrote?

it's apparent that it didn't matter what I said. I was banned because 3 partied teammates didn't like the way I played, and decided to report me even before i said anything.

The reports against you were valid, and I told you exactly why they were (begging for reports). I even told you exactly why group reports don't mean any more than a single report (preventing premades from holding solos hostage).

Actually read my previous post, then re-think your response to me.

MegaManYYZJun 3, 20161 votes

what you wrote in chat was punishable. you were on your last strike and you struck out.

it doesn't matter if they were threatening to report you prior to you saying anything, because you wouldn't have been punished if you did nothing wrong but then you did start writing back. being provoked is not just cause for anything in life.

also after being previously punished why do you still have all chat enabled? it seriously provides no positives for people in your situation.

Kei143Jun 3, 20163 votes

see, if you didn't say / do anything wrong, then those reports get thrown out.

I am comfortable in people reporting me cos I know I didn't do anything wrong, so their report doesn't do anything to me.

Hence I don't need to defend myself. Instead a get a small chuckle at their sillyness.

ModWuksJun 3, 20165 votes

If your account was applied a permanent suspension and the suspension wasn't applied in error, then unfortunately Riot's policy is to keep the suspension in place. This isn't to say that you can't create a new account and start from scratch; however, keep in mind that new accounts might be subject to more scrutiny, so you may want to actively focus on being a more neutral/positive Summoner to avoid this happening again. Hope that answered your questions!

Keegan320Jun 3, 20161 votes

Well gee, I hope that on my new account I don't have a bad game and have teammates spamming all chat saying to report me for "feeding", if that's all it takes to get permabanned

ModWuksJun 3, 20166 votes

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Well gee, I hope that on my new account I don't have a bad game and have teammates spamming all chat saying to report me for "feeding", if that's all it takes to get permabanned

Of course it isn't. Negative behavior has to be consistent in order to get a two-week suspension. Then you have to continue to be negative to get the permanent suspension.

Believe me. I have my moments in Plat where I just want to be toxic to my team, but it accomplishes nothing. Sometimes I come close, but I always remember that being negative to my team won't do jack shit to make them play better or treat me any better. So I just play, say GGWP at the end of the game, and move on.

Deep Terror NamiJun 3, 20166 votes

The system is designed entirely around weeding out false reports, so if you aren't actually feeding then the only thing that will happen is they lose weight in their future reports.

MegaManYYZJun 3, 20162 votes

asking for reports is bannable, I don't understand why people feel the need to do this? 1 report is all you need.

after your previous ban you should learn to just mute all. if you're not positive or helpful, it's pretty useless you write anything.