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The Ban System (My thoughts and why I got banned)

Demooo··2 votes·1,411 views

Ok to start off , yes I have been a little toxic lately, but after I got the 2 week ban and started playing on my alternate account. My attitude has changed, however I recently just got permanently banned for calling someone "Autistic" which yes is not something that you should be calling someone. However it was one game and I later apologized. they posted 2 games, 1 where I said I was going to int but i in fact did not int. I went 4-6-12 and tho yes i should have muted My support as well as my mid laner. They were refusing to cooperate, therefore tho i said i was inting i did not. However i shouldnt have been saying that either. i was just having a bad day so i had no filter and i was already tilted. But in my opinion I do not believe anyone should have their accounts permanently banned due to toxicity. If they're hacking then yes that does deserve a perma ban. But for toxicity is crazy because people spend a lot of money on skins or champions or a variety of other things. However I'm not saying that repeat offenders just get off. but i dont believe in the chat restrictions to 2 days to 2 weeks to a perma is viable. In my opinion its a bit of a stretch, tho yes the chat restrictions are necessary and all and it does take a lot to get permanently banned. There is also other factors that play into things like this, if you ban someone permanently you are saying they are extremely toxic. and you show 2 games as proof sometimes 3. but you neglect to look at the games played inbetween each ban. I got the 2 week ban. then i played nonstop for maybe 1-2 months give or take. then i got this ban. out of 2 games. which tells me because ive run across people who say they're gonna report me for being toxic if i ask them why they're running a specific rune. so i know inbetween those 1-2 months i got reported and no evidence showed up. then these 2 games up and im being banned for calling someone autistic, then clearly taking it back and apologizing.

(08:04:49 PM) Visitor 36084514: Game 1 Demooo: youll be fine Demooo: just play safe Demooo: lets play super passive alistar Demooo: pls and ty Demooo: we can go sorta aggro Demooo: alistar Demooo: you're up my fucking ass Demooo: body blocking Demooo: why.. Demooo: stop Demooo: sigh Demooo: report corki Demooo: you're the onje playing so bad Demooo: dude hes raging Demooo: already Demooo: cuz of "no ganks Demooo: corki Demooo: fucking back Demooo: moron Demooo: if he ganks ur dead Demooo: like? Demooo: its gg dude Demooo: hes stronger? Demooo: you gave him a kill.. Demooo: lol Demooo: sigh. Demooo: gg guys. Demooo: corkie Demooo: you legit ruin this game Demooo: for others Demooo: he needs to be banned/ Demooo: . Demooo: jax Demooo: for once' Demooo: its not a master yi's fault Demooo: you got mad Demooo: at level 3 Demooo: lol Demooo: jungle cant gank all the time Demooo: he didnt tho Demooo: he ganked cuz you guys pushed Demooo: like idiots Demooo: if you let them push Demooo: yi could gank Demooo: thats what happened swain Demooo: u got clapped Demooo: cuz u pushed Demooo: simple Demooo: its called wave management Demooo: learn it Demooo: xeraths been in my lane Demooo: good! Demooo: !!! Demooo: i mean Demooo: you inted Demooo: what do you expect Demooo: you're already doing it Demooo: buddy Demooo: sigh Demooo: shouldve just let me top Demooo: yup. Demooo: so is corki Demooo: freaked out on our jungler level 2 Demooo: "YI WHY ARENT YOU GANKING ME" Demooo: i mean at this point its just over. Demooo: dunno why i played Demooo: they wont surrender either Demooo: gg Demooo: i mean swain couldve avoided it Demooo: but he shoved Demooo: like a dumbass Demooo: can u please hit yes Demooo: so i can move on ' Demooo: and play another. Demooo: they wont Demooo: because they raged Demooo: and inted Demooo: i gave up after corki flamed our jungler Demooo: im just gonna quit Demooo: dfuck Demooo: sorry Demooo: wtf Demooo: welp Demooo: thats what you get for going afk Demooo: bots lost Demooo: gg Demooo: mids losing too! Demooo: nah Demooo: im good Demooo: nah Demooo: dont go afk Demooo: and leave me bot Demooo: alone Demooo: :smile: Demooo: dont hook Demooo: or fight Demooo: unless we get gank Demooo: back Demooo: bots over dude lol they froze Demooo: we cant do anything Demooo: its dine Demooo: i didnt Demooo: tho Demooo: idiot Demooo: that did Demooo: :smile: Demooo: :smile: Demooo: :smile: Demooo: follow Demooo: your Demooo: god Demooo: damn Demooo: laner Demooo: zoe Demooo: fucking Demooo: really? Demooo: im inting Demooo: im inting Demooo: SHES BOT Demooo: SHE Demooo: SHOWED UP ON THE MAP Demooo: YOU AUTISTIC Demooo: FUCK Demooo: whatever,, Demooo: ill play it out Demooo: but look at ur map Demooo: most likely gonna get that hot perma Demooo: for callin u autistic Demooo: so my b

Here are the 2 games, both from the same day because i remember, and you can clearly see that yes i have an attitude. but these 2 games compared to the 3 games for my 2 week ban look a lot different. these 2 are significantly smaller then the ones from the 2 week ban. which shows you that I was controlling my anger but it got the best of me that day in those 2 games because of uncooperative teammates. Now I'm not saying I do not deserve a ban so dont get it twisted because i dont believe that. yes I should be banned but i dont think anyone should be permanently banned for toxicity unless its back to back . and consistently. i think Riot should look more into the length of games between each of the cases before they come to final conclusion. and i think it should go from 2 weeks, to 1 month 2 months 5 months year , after the year, then yes that person should be banned permanently. I will admit I just lost maybe 4-5k worth of skins and money that i put into that account. and it was because of 1 bad day . and the current system that riot runs on.

NOTE - this is just my opinion if you dont agree thats fine , I just feel as if you shouldnt be permanently banned unless riot looks far deeper into the cases.

47 Comments

Chermorg8 votes

You didn't really apologize for calling them autistic either.. You basically said "i'm kinda sorry but only bc i'm gonna get banned".

Your attitude is the problem, not the words you used. You were not reformed - nowhere near it. You still had a negative, combative, and argumentative attitude in these games. If you had truly been reformed, or even if you were even trying, you wouldn't have even considered saying the word "autistic" to refer to someone else, or insulting them, or berating them, or harassing them.

You chose to continue playing without regard to your attitude, thinking that you'd get lucky and just avoid reports or avoid being "bad enough". That's not what the message you were given with the 14 day ban said. It said any further negativity may result in a permanent ban. I recommend not trying to play with fire next time you're given a final warning for something.

Demooo1 votes

I did apologize, there, and after the game in the post game lobby, But there is other factors and an all entirely different aspect to what im saying.

Demooo1 votes

Yes in that moment i messed up and that game i was extremely tilted and other variables, but I do believe that there shouldn't be permanent bans due to toxicity unless its intentional in my case it wasnt because i apologized.

Demooo1 votes

You also have to understand you're only seeing what I'm saying and not what the other players are saying/doing in this case.

Chermorg4 votes

Yes, because that doesn't matter. You control your attitude, you control your enter key - nobody else does.

Demooo1 votes

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Yes, because that doesn't matter. You control your attitude, you control your enter key - nobody else does.

I agree, but I feel like you're missing what my whole argument is, im not defending what i did because i know it was wrong. what im trying to do is say what i see is wrong. people have their right to their own opinion.

Demooo1 votes

I will agree that I am argumentative, and I was that game, but I wasnt going out of my way to cause mischief and I didnt just call him "autistic" out of the blue like it looks. though I shouldnt have said it.

Chermorg1 votes

If you think you had justification for doing that, then you also had justification for accepting your permanent ban.

Again, you chose to flame, and you chose to do so in a very extreme way. You chose this instead of choosing to lose your poor attitude towards others as Riot warned you you needed to. Thus, Riot gave you a permanent ban, as they don't want you in this community if you're going to continue to act this way.

Demooo1 votes

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If you think you had justification for doing that, then you also had justification for accepting your permanent ban.

Again, you chose to flame, and you chose to do so in a very extreme way. You chose this instead of choosing to lose your poor attitude towards others as Riot warned you you needed to. Thus, Riot gave you a permanent ban, as they don't want you in this community if you're going to continue to act this way.

They picked 2 games, after my 2 week ban, I played Hundreds of games, and its one game, yes i said something bad, and I dont think i have justification, If you read what I said and the points that I'm saying, maybe youll understand what I think

Chermorg2 votes

It didn't look like hundreds, assuming the 2 week gap at the mid-end of April was your 2 week ban.

Regardless, you had shown a consistent pattern of toxicity, and Riot doesn't want that. You say people shouldn't be permanently banned because you think everyone should be able to play. Riot doesn't want everyone to play. They want the players who are consistently creating a negative environment to leave the game - not just be restricted from chat and express their negativity through trolling/griefing/AFKing.

Demooo1 votes

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It didn't look like hundreds, assuming the 2 week gap at the mid-end of April was your 2 week ban.

Regardless, you had shown a consistent pattern of toxicity, and Riot doesn't want that. You say people shouldn't be permanently banned because you think everyone should be able to play. Riot doesn't want everyone to play. They want the players who are consistently creating a negative environment to leave the game - not just be restricted from chat and express their negativity through trolling/griefing/AFKing.

I'm not consistently being toxic , consistently is constant, repeatedly being toxic and causing mischief to others through verbal slurs to in game trolling. I haven't been consistent. Riot sees it that way because of the system they have set up.

Chermorg1 votes

You were being consistent though. You presumably had some chat restrictions - you continued. You had a 14 day ban. You continued.

You continued being toxic no matter what punishment/warning Riot gave you. That's the definition of consistency. I'm not trying to say you're being toxic every game - not that kind of consistency. However, over time, you are consistently being toxic in a percentage of games. Toxicity is not acceptable in any amount - not 1/100 games, not even 1/1000 games.

Demooo1 votes

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You were being consistent though. You presumably had some chat restrictions - you continued. You had a 14 day ban. You continued.

You continued being toxic no matter what punishment/warning Riot gave you. That's the definition of consistency. I'm not trying to say you're being toxic every game - not that kind of consistency. However, over time, you are consistently being toxic in a percentage of games. Toxicity is not acceptable in any amount - not 1/100 games, not even 1/1000 games.

Thats false, though, thats what im arguing about in my tickets, that I didnt post on here because its not something that relatable for this. I didnt receive the chat bans that were on my account, because i quit playing League of legends for a few months and my friend would borrow my account. He got a few chat restrictions, so i made him stop playing, then whenever i got on, if i got a bad game or I said something i shouldnt have i would get banned. doesnt make it right, but right now ive only gotten my account banned 2 times. the 2 week and the permanent ban.

Chermorg2 votes

Aside from the fact that account sharing/trading is against the Terms of Use and subjects you to a permanent ban for that alone, you are responsible for the actions he took on your account.

Demooo1 votes

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Aside from the fact that account sharing/trading is against the Terms of Use and subjects you to a permanent ban for that alone, you are responsible for the actions he took on your account.

It wasnt trading, or sharing, he would play on my account while i was asleep. but what you say is true, but i dont agree with it being a permanent ban.

Chermorg2 votes

Your account information uniquely identifies you. If you let someone else use that information, you are basically saying "they have the right to be me while they're using this information". You are further responsible for anything he does while "acting as you" by using your login information.

Demooo1 votes

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Your account information uniquely identifies you. If you let someone else use that information, you are basically saying "they have the right to be me while they're using this information". You are further responsible for anything he does while "acting as you" by using your login information.

He did not have my login information. thats what ur missing.

Demooo1 votes

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It didn't look like hundreds, assuming the 2 week gap at the mid-end of April was your 2 week ban.

Regardless, you had shown a consistent pattern of toxicity, and Riot doesn't want that. You say people shouldn't be permanently banned because you think everyone should be able to play. Riot doesn't want everyone to play. They want the players who are consistently creating a negative environment to leave the game - not just be restricted from chat and express their negativity through trolling/griefing/AFKing.

my 2 week ban ended in the beginning of april, i was unbanned april 2.

Chermorg1 votes

You played many dozens of games between April 1 and April 14. You were not banned on this account during that time.

You played 0 games between some time on April 18 and some time on May 2. That is a period of exactly 14 days. I am unsure if you are merely misremembering things or if you are intentionally trying to mislead, but regardless, the exact time does not matter, your behavior after does.

Demooo1 votes

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You played many dozens of games between April 1 and April 14. You were not banned on this account during that time.

You played 0 games between some time on April 18 and some time on May 2. That is a period of exactly 14 days. I am unsure if you are merely misremembering things or if you are intentionally trying to mislead, but regardless, the exact time does not matter, your behavior after does.

oh no you're right, but I still played hundreds of games, and I didnt receive a ban or anything in that time.

Chermorg2 votes

You played exactly 42 full games after your 14 day ban ended on May 2.

I think you are suffering from a bias here in that you believe you were barely being toxic in barely any games because you can't bring yourself to accept that you were being toxic in many games.

Keep in mind that the games showed in your reform card are not necessarily the only games you were toxic in after your ban. The reform card shows a sample of games - not necessarily all games.

Demooo1 votes

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You played exactly 42 full games after your 14 day ban ended on May 2.

I think you are suffering from a bias here in that you believe you were barely being toxic in barely any games because you can't bring yourself to accept that you were being toxic in many games.

Keep in mind that the games showed in your reform card are not necessarily the only games you were toxic in after your ban. The reform card shows a sample of games - not necessarily all games.

Oh i know that, but I know those are the only 2 games youll find me saying a slur like that. the only reason i got mixed up with the months was because i knew it was the 2nd , but i forgot it was the 2nd of may.

Chermorg2 votes

Slurs are not the only form of toxicity - arguing, giving up, harassment, and flaming all are - regardless of the words used.

Demooo1 votes

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Slurs are not the only form of toxicity - arguing, giving up, harassment, and flaming all are - regardless of the words used.

Actions speak louder then words. i didnt harrass or argue besides those 2 games. And I didnt give up unless they were killing our nexus towers and i was or a teammate was the only one alive.

Demooo1 votes

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You played exactly 42 full games after your 14 day ban ended on May 2.

I think you are suffering from a bias here in that you believe you were barely being toxic in barely any games because you can't bring yourself to accept that you were being toxic in many games.

Keep in mind that the games showed in your reform card are not necessarily the only games you were toxic in after your ban. The reform card shows a sample of games - not necessarily all games.

and I played on my other account "Jakeandmearebrot" during my suspension of 2 weeks and i received no penalties or bans. in 2 weeks of constant play. if i was constantly toxic like u suggest i wouldve gotten that account suspended as well.

Chermorg2 votes

I have not said you were constantly toxic. I said consistently. What consistently means is that over time you do not change. It means you have a "status quo".

You were consistently toxic. You were toxic enough to get a 14 day ban, and then you continued being toxic afterwards - even if only in a "few" games. Your lack of punishment on another account does not mean you were not consistently toxic - it just means that account did not meet the level needed to initiate punishment.

Demooo2 votes

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I have not said you were constantly toxic. I said consistently. What consistently means is that over time you do not change. It means you have a "status quo".

You were consistently toxic. You were toxic enough to get a 14 day ban, and then you continued being toxic afterwards - even if only in a "few" games. Your lack of punishment on another account does not mean you were not consistently toxic - it just means that account did not meet the level needed to initiate punishment.

Or that account hasnt been punished because you're infact going off of you thinking im toxic, any toxic player wouldnt sit here and politely argue with you about this.

Demooo2 votes

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I have not said you were constantly toxic. I said consistently. What consistently means is that over time you do not change. It means you have a "status quo".

You were consistently toxic. You were toxic enough to get a 14 day ban, and then you continued being toxic afterwards - even if only in a "few" games. Your lack of punishment on another account does not mean you were not consistently toxic - it just means that account did not meet the level needed to initiate punishment.

And i havent consistently been toxic either. theres months seperating the week ban from i think its a 2 day ban or 25 day chat restriction or whatever it is. so its not consistent.

Demooo2 votes

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I have not said you were constantly toxic. I said consistently. What consistently means is that over time you do not change. It means you have a "status quo".

You were consistently toxic. You were toxic enough to get a 14 day ban, and then you continued being toxic afterwards - even if only in a "few" games. Your lack of punishment on another account does not mean you were not consistently toxic - it just means that account did not meet the level needed to initiate punishment.

And out of curiosity have you read the entire thing i posted.

Demooo2 votes

{quoted}

I have not said you were constantly toxic. I said consistently. What consistently means is that over time you do not change. It means you have a "status quo".

You were consistently toxic. You were toxic enough to get a 14 day ban, and then you continued being toxic afterwards - even if only in a "few" games. Your lack of punishment on another account does not mean you were not consistently toxic - it just means that account did not meet the level needed to initiate punishment.

if you dont agree with me thats fine. but I dont agree with the current system and how things are led out, and there should be more investigation into whats happening.

Demooo1 votes

{quoted}

I have not said you were constantly toxic. I said consistently. What consistently means is that over time you do not change. It means you have a "status quo".

You were consistently toxic. You were toxic enough to get a 14 day ban, and then you continued being toxic afterwards - even if only in a "few" games. Your lack of punishment on another account does not mean you were not consistently toxic - it just means that account did not meet the level needed to initiate punishment.

Because you are going of things i said, and ignoring the fact that I'm admitting my faults, but not agreeing with the stipulations they have placed. because of a variety of things.

Demooo1 votes

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I have not said you were constantly toxic. I said consistently. What consistently means is that over time you do not change. It means you have a "status quo".

You were consistently toxic. You were toxic enough to get a 14 day ban, and then you continued being toxic afterwards - even if only in a "few" games. Your lack of punishment on another account does not mean you were not consistently toxic - it just means that account did not meet the level needed to initiate punishment.

It was nice talking to you, see you on the rift :)

Demooo1 votes

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You played exactly 42 full games after your 14 day ban ended on May 2.

I think you are suffering from a bias here in that you believe you were barely being toxic in barely any games because you can't bring yourself to accept that you were being toxic in many games.

Keep in mind that the games showed in your reform card are not necessarily the only games you were toxic in after your ban. The reform card shows a sample of games - not necessarily all games.

and if you suggest i cant bring myself to accept i was being toxic in many games, which i haven't , then why wasnt i banned sooner, and banned on my other account. that i still play on. if you actually believe im toxic and that im consistently toxic, then i would look at my account from time to time to see if I was banned.

Demooo1 votes

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It didn't look like hundreds, assuming the 2 week gap at the mid-end of April was your 2 week ban.

Regardless, you had shown a consistent pattern of toxicity, and Riot doesn't want that. You say people shouldn't be permanently banned because you think everyone should be able to play. Riot doesn't want everyone to play. They want the players who are consistently creating a negative environment to leave the game - not just be restricted from chat and express their negativity through trolling/griefing/AFKing.

It wasint mid-end april, it was april 2nd.

Demooo1 votes

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It didn't look like hundreds, assuming the 2 week gap at the mid-end of April was your 2 week ban.

Regardless, you had shown a consistent pattern of toxicity, and Riot doesn't want that. You say people shouldn't be permanently banned because you think everyone should be able to play. Riot doesn't want everyone to play. They want the players who are consistently creating a negative environment to leave the game - not just be restricted from chat and express their negativity through trolling/griefing/AFKing.

I also play consistently everyday, 5-10 games a day. sometimes double that depending on how late i stay up.

Demooo1 votes

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If you think you had justification for doing that, then you also had justification for accepting your permanent ban.

Again, you chose to flame, and you chose to do so in a very extreme way. You chose this instead of choosing to lose your poor attitude towards others as Riot warned you you needed to. Thus, Riot gave you a permanent ban, as they don't want you in this community if you're going to continue to act this way.

I even said that I deserve a ban, But I don't think the situation that applies is viable, they make ban process reset over time, rather then reset over games. for example. if it takes 3 months for it to go back down to me getting chat restrictions, I can easily wait those 3 months and come back and be toxic again. but instead they take ur reports regardless of the amount of games/time you played since your last ban. I got permabanned yes. but I dont believe I should be permanently banned, 3 months? a month? a year? sure . but permanently banning someone for 2 games then saying its constant toxicity is false.

Shukr4n2 votes

Demooo: YOU AUTISTIC

14d ban or perma?

Demooo1 votes

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14d ban or perma?

I was permanently banned. but I assume you didnt read lol

Shukr4n2 votes

i just read chatlog. rest is boring

well. at least system works

thanks

Demooo1 votes

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i just read chatlog. rest is boring

well. at least system works

thanks

Fair enough i expected This, but if you wanna understand more i suggest reading the entire thing

Shukr4n2 votes

nah from my eperience the boring stuff is usually

  • i was in a bad mood / got bad periodo of time

  • i am sorry / not doing anymore / i promise

  • give chances im good

  • other were equally bad / they started / i defended myself

  • tyler1

otherwise highlight me the important part

Demooo1 votes

None of those things you just listed are anything to do what what I said. which is why i suggested reading.

Shukr4n2 votes

i read all, and i expected, silly thread.

yeah i forgot to add the money reasoning. "i spent a lot u cant ban" BS. my bad.

anyway, where is the BEST part i should have read? i miss it

Demooo1 votes

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i read all, and i expected, silly thread.

yeah i forgot to add the money reasoning. "i spent a lot u cant ban" BS. my bad.

anyway, where is the BEST part i should have read? i miss it

Okay dude, like i said you have ur right to ur own opinion

Demooo1 votes

besides the bad mood but thats not the main topic at all

SpiritAnomaly2 votes

My child listen here, this was justified, let me tell you why. Riot employees came from the future beacuse a new Hitler rose to power, claiming millions of lives, and that was only beacuse he was an oversensitive depressed idiot being offended over the internet by people he never knew. They had to implement this autistic system to stop this, and a bunch of other people got banned beacuse of the oversensitive idiots. It's for the greater good my child, don't worry.

AND POST. Amumu Amumu Amumu Amumu Amumu Amumu Amumu Amumu Amumu

Demooo1 votes

These are just 2 games out of hundreds, hell maybe pushing a thousand, out of a few weeks time

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