Riot disgusting behaviour

Firya·May 1, 2017·5 votes·7,964 views

I played with 3 of my friends in the weekend. during one of the games 1 of my friends had problems with his launcher. so me and the second friend decided to get in a game until he could get his problem fixed. during the loading of the game the friend i played with had bad internet and disconnected and the third friend got his client fixed.

After logging in the game i told the team we were premades and had a problem told them we want to remake. 2 of them said no. so i did the best thing i could think of and that was feeding. after a few minutes my friend reconnected and we did it together to end the game faster. after the game ended the game after that i got a message that i got banned FOR 14 DAYS!

WHAT THE FUCK???

this was a normal game, no one lost any points. i never do this this was the first time, and straight up i get a BAN?? was this ok to do? i dont know. but it was the best solution we had to play together. after that i sent riot a support ticket and told them what happened and they excused it with: (KASIIM) "If your teammates refused the remake vote, this means they wanted to play the game, but you took that away from then and ruined the experience for them, so this makes your punishment fully deserved".

and for that i say FUCK YOU! what about MY EXPERIENCE? why would i want to help them?? a friend of mine was waiting, and another had connection issues.

what i did was ok? no. but to give me a straight up BAN?! give me a warning, put me in a 20 queue or something. dont just ban me like all i ever did in this game was to feed. espeacially if its the fist time doing so, and especially after spending money in this account.

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RiotRiot TantramMay 1, 201752 votes

give me a warning, put me in a 20 queue or something.

This is your warning. It's is a 14-day ban.

dont just ban me like all i ever did in this game was to feed.

That's why you got banned for feeding. Because, you were feeding.

especially after spending money in this account.

Spending money does not give you the right to ruin the experience of others, immunity from penalties, or special treatment.

FiryaMay 1, 20171 votes

i did it in ONE game in 4 or 5 years of play, and your idea of "warning" for the FIRST mistake is a BAN???

i never said i didn't do anything bad, i did. give me a timeout between games, low queues. a straight up ban is a slap in the face. i will never spend another dollar on this game.

DrCyanideMay 1, 201725 votes

It's funny how now you'll accept a 20 minute delay before you can play a game with your friends but waiting 20 minutes was too long for you to wait in the moment. You could have finished your game without surrendering before you'd be free to play another after initially feeding and getting a 20 minute wait added.

Besides, why should someone who intentionally made a game worse be given the same punishment as someone who had technical troubles beyond their control? That's not fair, the intentional feeder does deserve a more strict punishment, which is what you got.

FiryaMay 1, 20171 votes

i did not do that to "give my team a bad game" (they lost bot turret in under 5 min all by themselves anyways) all i wanted was to end the game fast. after going throu the forum i probably got banned because i bought 2 types of boots and that triggered the system.

blocking me from the content is not the same as giving me a delay from the content. i will accept a delay between games because now i dont have frinds waiting, its just me.

HlkTMay 1, 20175 votes

It is just you. Hopefully you are not as delusional as you sound and are just trolling for the sake of it at this point. You are selfish. Just because people are not your friend means that their time does not matter? Only the fact that you are your friends want to play together? Please. I would have perma-banned you after reading all this and refunded your money for being so disrespectful, toxic and entitled. The refund would be just to reinforce the fact that you are not welcome to play with others in this community if you have such a garbage attitude towards others. Are you this self-centered in real life as well? Sounds like mommy gave you everything you wanted whenever you wanted it.

FiryaMay 1, 20171 votes

if you act like an ass towards me, expect the same treatment.

i experienced a few weeks ago something like 3 or 4 remakes in a row, trust me, its not even 5 minutes between games.

and i work for my money, but if you're talking about getting your moms money, you must know what you're talking about.

HlkTMay 1, 20176 votes

No one was an ass towards you. You engaged in feeding because YOU decided the game was over. That is not how things work. If you want to be playing in a professional setting then go and play with a team. I have never had more than one remake in a weeks period. You are clearly full of sh*t no matter how you spin it. You are spending your money on pixels, thinking that gives you the right to do whatever you want? Lol child. Go work to pay off your pixels and think up better mom jokes. I fully believe you are still suckling the teet, may even have the umbilical cord fully attached.

FiryaMay 1, 20171 votes

the ass part was referring to you...

not sure if its registered anywhere, but i assume you have no life and willing to waste time to find the remakes for yourself

Deep Terror NamiMay 1, 20179 votes

@H1kT and @Firya: When we start resorting to personal attacks, it's time to end the discussion. Try to remain respectful to each other, and if one doesn't want to do that simply do not engage them.

Deep Terror NamiMay 1, 20176 votes

@H1kT and @Firya: When we start resorting to personal attacks, it's time to end the discussion. Try to remain respectful to each other, and if one doesn't want to do that simply do not engage them.

howareyouthisbadMay 2, 20172 votes

3v5s are always close games.... get real

Scary DoorMay 1, 20174 votes

Different violations carry different "warnings" or punishments. You're kind of lucky that it was a 14-day ban instead of a perma.

That's also how life works... the severity of your crime determines the punishment. If you robbed a bank, you wouldn't get a "warning", you would go to jail for several years minimum.

FiryaMay 1, 20171 votes

riot are not gods. if it were a perma, i would contact my credit company and do all i can to gell all the money i spent on the game back.

i like the game and was willing to put money in it. if im not receiving the same respect i will get it back. since its not a perma ban i will let it slide but i wont spend another cent on this game ever again.

Scary DoorMay 1, 20174 votes

You /might/ get your most recent RP purchase refunded by your credit card company/bank, but they would not refund the entirety of the amount you have spent in League of Legends.

You agreed to the Terms of Service (clearly without reading them) when you created an account and now you must adhere to them. It's as simple as that.

Understand that Riot Games may suspend your account "AT ANY TIME, and FOR ANY REASON or for NO REASON" at all.

You lose.

FiryaMay 1, 20171 votes

not so sure the TOS has the last say, but i havent looked into it that much.

dont be so sure it cant be done, and frankly its not like i really need it. if they really need that money i feel sorry for them.

Scary DoorMay 1, 20174 votes

I've looked into it, you will get your most recent charge back and that's it. Period.

As for whether or not you need the money... I don't know.... When someone writes a complaint thread and one of the things they mention is how much money they've spent it implies that they need the money or that it was a significant investment to them. People that don't really need it aren't going to be pissed over a few hundred bucks. So, it sounds like you're not being very truthful.

People that "don't need the money" usually don't try to commit fraud by pulling a chargeback against a company for whom they signed a contract.

Timethief49May 1, 20176 votes

yeah thats called fraud. a great thing.

FiryaMay 2, 20171 votes

actually no.

i want to be clear that i haven't checked it yet so it might not be totally correct, however you do have the power to dispute credit card charges. and you did pay for something you dont get because riot closed the access to it. at the end of the day, your credit company is there to protect you. so in theory i can tell my credit company about not getting what i paid for and they will be the ones asking for riot for answers. and even if riot will get everything in order, you might still get a refund from the credit company. some times its even determined by the local law of your country.

this is how it usually works but things may very between company's and even country's. and like i said, i didnt check into it so don't consider this as a legal advise for anything.

not sure the money i paid is even worth my time to even check it. its more of a principle thing.

Timethief49May 2, 20178 votes

Let me make it clear with a metapher. You buy a toy. You use it in the wrong Way and it Breaks. You Charge Back. That's fraud. You got what you payed for. You didn't use it in the way it was told by the creater (TOU). It Breaks. Charing Back is fraud.

Mr TimMay 2, 20175 votes

Hey, remember that little thing box you clicked when you signed up for league, and that box you need to click everyone a new patch gets released?

Yea, that's called Riot's Terms and Conditions (I bet you didn't know that or read through it). Tl;dr is, you have you legal 'right' to play Riot's game, you are literally given the privelage to. And Riot is actually fairly generous in saying "you don't even need to fork up money to play our game, you just need to follow these rules while you play". And by clicking that box, you agreed to follow Riot's rules while playing league.

Well, in those rules, it states that Riot has the right to disable access to your account for failing to comply with their rules. It says nothing about the amount of money you spent on the game, or what happens to it after you get suspended. If you break the rules, you're done, period, end of story.

You actually don't how little strength you would have in the legal case against Riot, and how much strength they have against you. All because you clicked "I agree to the terms and conditions of use".

Palmeiras SerieBMay 1, 20172 votes

I always reported players and never ever seen a report working

OnlyYouCanHearMeMay 1, 20172 votes

You only see the pop-up alert if yours is the last report that triggers the punishment, but that doesn't mean that the reports are not being used in the system, or that those players are not receiving punishments.

SecondAirbaneMay 2, 20171 votes

so what you're saying is you get banned for feeding even if not intentional?

damn thats pretty fucked up

RiotRiot TantramMay 2, 201722 votes

It was 100% intentional.

Deep Terror NamiMay 1, 201729 votes

so i did the best thing i could think of and that was feeding

Is that supposed to be a joke? It's never ok to intentionally ruin the game for other players; that there isn't rank/LP to lose doesn't make it ok, the other players are still there to have fun and win.

Repeated behavior like this may result in you being escalated to a permanent ban, so if you have any questions about what you should do instead of feeding or being negative please ask them before playing again after this 14 day so that doesn't happen.

FiryaMay 1, 20172 votes

me to. i want to have fun, but with a friend waiting and another literately having connection issues during the loading what were we to do? and why should i help them win? if i were to stay in base and let the other laner free farm were that been better?!

and im ok with a punishment but why the fuck a ban???

Deep Terror NamiMay 1, 201717 votes

Gameplay related offenses are always treated with account bans, it doesn't make sense to give a feeder/troll a chat restriction if it won't mitigate the behavior they are punishing.

FiryaMay 1, 20172 votes

again, this was the first time i did it. a time out would have been enought. i put money in this account a ban is way out of proportion just because i had 2 boots (wich apparently causes the system to give the bans)

Deep Terror NamiMay 1, 201713 votes

There is no number of games where it's ok to intentionally throw the game for your team that wants to play. Even one game may result in punishment. Simply don't do it.

BarkhoofMay 1, 20174 votes

You got banned for 14 days, no? Isn't that the very definition of a "time-out"?

FiryaMay 1, 20171 votes

between games. not as in "you cant play at all".

for me, that's disrespect for a long time player that chose to spent money on the game.

BarkhoofMay 1, 20174 votes

I know this is a cheeky remark, but is that more disrespect, or less than you showed your teammates/opponents when you died 15 times in a 12 min period?

OnlyYouCanHearMeMay 1, 20173 votes

The having multiple boots isn't what triggered a ban for intentional feeding. It was the 0 kill participation, 0 cs, and almost negligible exp. Even if you had built perfectly normal items, you still would have probably had the ban triggered for that match.

Also, from looking at your match history, it's possible that you've been reported for intentionally feeding before this one match. You have a few matches with relatively high numbers of deaths, compared to numbers of kills/assists. Ordinarily, the system is fairly lenient with intentional feeding. Riot doesn't want to punish people who are just having bad matches, like the Gnar matchup someone else mentioned, where you talked about having to 2v1. It would have been unfair to expect you to play something like that and keep a normal score, and if you notice, in that case - you weren't punished.

But when you have a case like this one, where there is literally nothing in the match that shows you were trying to do anything even remotely resembling playing the game, and you are reported, you are issued the first offense punishment for intentionally feeding. And it just so happens that for things like feeding/trolling and non-behavioral offenses, there are only two punishments: 14 day suspension, and a permanent suspension.

FiryaMay 1, 20171 votes

i dont need the game to show otherwise. im flat out saying i did it. im not hiding anything.

i usually dont come in the forums and didn't know that the first punishment was a 14 day ban. no warning no nothing.

had i knew that, trust me i wouldn't have spent any money on the game. if the first mistake you do gives you a straight up ban its unacceptable to me and show no respect to me as a consumer. for instance hadn't plays StarCraft in years, and still bought every expedition to support them. i expected same respect from riot, thats all.

AeroWaffleMay 1, 20171 votes

Why should we care about the money you spent in the game?

Why should Riot care? You don't get immunity from the rules because of how much money you spent and a vast majority of the player base is perfectly fine with intentional feeders getting a 14-day ban on the first offense. Claiming that you wouldn't have spent money in the game if you had realized the punishment does not help your case not does it garner sympathy.

Intentional feeding is a clear and deliberate intention to ruin the game for the other players. People don't want it in their games and neither does Riot.

You keep talking about "respect" from Riot. Why should they respect someone who is breaking the rules?

FiryaMay 1, 20171 votes

FOR THE FIRST TIME!

the money is not the main issue. the money is a form of support, and to show appreciation for the game. and FOR ME, a ban for first offence in never "perfectly fine".

AeroWaffleMay 1, 20175 votes

Intentional feeding is a clear and deliberate intention to ruin the game for the other players. People don't want it in their games and neither does Riot.

...

and FOR ME, a ban for first offence in never "perfectly fine".

Unfortunately for you, it looks like you're part of the minority on that.

Pantheon ForeverMay 4, 20172 votes

Why should we care about the money you spent in the game?

The 1% who spend money on the game is the business model that allows us all to play for free if we choose. You should care if every week people who claim to spend money to support the game you play have a bad experience and stop spending money. You know that item set you want? You know that error that keeps causing you to crash? You know that balance update you were waiting on? All paid for by players like the one you do not care about and them leaving causes delays and enough leaving could be part of what ends the game down the road.

Once its not profitable how long do you expect riot to keep the game online?

The game has been out for awhile and reached a wide audience very few people with computers haven't heard about the game so its important to retain the player base we have.

I'm not defending or condoning their actions but that is why you should care (at least some amount). Without people supporting the game with real $ purchases it would not be available for any of us.

Fast food is a perfect example, customers make mistakes and do things incorrectly very often but they are customers so when a problem arises an effort is made to retain their business even if the customer was wrong, even if every customer can't be made happy again, an effort is made to care.

OnlyYouCanHearMeMay 1, 20174 votes

Oh, I know you haven't been trying to hide or deny anything. I'm sorry if it sounded like that is what I meant; that was not my intent.

While it may seem a bit harsh, the 14 day temporary suspension has been the first offense punishment for instances of intentional feeding/trolling (i.e. the gameplay related infractions, not chat related) for literally as long as I can remember. At least a few years.

As you don't come to the Boards often, you probably haven't seen the sheer volume of threads posted in recent weeks about players complaining about intentional feeders. There isn't a day that goes by where at least one player isn't posting a thread about how their game was ruined because of an intentional feeder; dozens of threads every week saying the exact same thing, with players demanding justice. And one common trait in almost all the threads is that players seek very harsh penalties against intentional feeders. Quite a few of them ask for permabans on the first instance of it. While Riot has listened to their requests for protection against feeders, and has started to crack down and issue punishments, it would appear that they have not seen a need to judge it so harshly as to permanently suspend an account for a single instance of it.

If players were only given a 20 minute time penalty as a warning, prior to joining queue, very few people would take that seriously enough to be dissuaded from feeding again. What is 20 minutes? Watch a video, get a snack, etc. A 14 day suspension on the other hand, with the knowledge that any further reports on the account could result in it being permanently suspended? That is a warning that most people will take very seriously. They might be angry about it, and might rant a bit, but they are likely to take it to heart and not repeat it.

As far as not respecting you as a consumer, you have to keep in mind, there were 9 other people in that game, 8 of which had the potential to be consumers whose game you ruined (if you assume that you and your friend were not bothered by the intentional feeding). From a business standpoint alone, no company is going to want to let 1 customer piss off 8 other customers. While Riot isn't going to go out of their way to disrespect you, they also aren't going to disrespect the other 8, which they would be doing if they allowed you to ruin their match and get away with it with zero consequences.

Whether or not you knew what the punishments for feeding was, you did know that it was against the rules, and you chose to do it anyway. I'm sure it's frustrating to be banned, but you made the choice, and as you cannot change it, you need to accept it, and in the future, think twice before you choose to knowingly break the rules if you're not willing to face the consequences.

FiryaMay 2, 20171 votes

first, thanks for actually taking the time to comment, instead of just throwing snide comments.

secondly, i can get behind alot of the things you say. however i can only see it from what i experience. im not one who breaks the rules. and when it did eventually happen i do think there is a big difference from what ive done and the punishment i got. i also had feeders in my games, and from what i could see, the reports did nothing, nor i got no notification that my report actually did anything. so from what i experienced, riot does nothing for feeders. after the game ends and i receive the ban, i found out that the system is not objective. some things do cause it to take things more seriously. if you are feeding (even not intentionally) and then buy something "bad" the system will target you. 2 types of boots? the system marks you. so when i reported others who did not buy 2 boots my report probably didnt go through, and when someone reported me, and i bought 2 boots, i was banned on the first offence.

so this leaves me in a situation where riot will not look past their banning system. once it marked you, youre banned. will not check to see if "my record is clean", and will treat me like all i do in this game is feed and act badly. personally, i lost my respect for them.

i do not say there isn't a problem with feeding in the game, however a ban is never something im willing to accept as a "warning" for firs violation. obviously not including an actual hack of the game or IRL threats.

OnlyYouCanHearMeMay 4, 20171 votes

I'm sorry that it has taken me so long to reply, it's been a few days since I have been able to log onto the Boards.

There's a couple things about how intentional feeding has been and is currently being punished. I'm not 100% certain on this, but the most recent updates on the Instant Feedback System FAQ page now list intentional feeding as being handled by the IFS. Perhaps Nami would be able to confirm whether the IFS is indeed handling these cases now, but it would appear to be the case as your punishment was issued so quickly.

When the IFS first launched, it wasn't quite ready to be able to address feeding because in many cases, someone who is intentionally feeding might look almost exactly the same as someone who got stomped in lane. Riot has always tried to err on the side of caution when it comes to reports of intentional feeding. If there's even a little bit of evidence that a player might have been trying and simply playing badly rather than feeding, then reports that have been submitted in the past may not have led to punishment. Riot has never wanted to unfairly punish innocent players for something they haven't done, and unfortunately that does mean that some intentional feeders have slipped under the radar.

But the IFS has been active for a while now, and Riot has been saying that they were going to add in the capability to process reports for intentional feeding. So, it is entirely possible that they have added that feature in. While buying two pair of boots alone will not flag an account for banning, it may be taken into account as another piece of evidence by the IFS that a player is not actively trying to play and win the game. From the cases of players who were banned for feeding prior to this, one of the biggest things that was consistently noted was a lack of kill participation. Specifically, no assists. Even a player who is destroyed in lane can still become useful by becoming a meat-shield for the carries in later teamfights, which would give them at least some assists. But players who have no kills, no assists, no cs, barely any exp; those players are easily marked as being feeders under any system. It's just that most cases of feeding are not that easy to prove.

One last thing about the notifications - you only get the pop-up if yours is the last report that triggers the punishment. Any other players who report that player do not get the alert. So, just because you don't see the pop-up, doesn't mean that the person wasn't given a punishment. Also, because cases of intentional feeding weren't handled by the IFS before, it did sometimes take them longer to be reviewed and doesn't mean the player wasn't eventually punished if you didn't see them punished the next day or week.

LawUrDepravdHartMay 4, 20172 votes

{quoted}

I'm sorry that it has taken me so long to reply, it's been a few days since I have been able to log onto the Boards.

There's a couple things about how intentional feeding has been and is currently being punished. I'm not 100% certain on this, but the most recent updates on the Instant Feedback System FAQ page now list intentional feeding as being handled by the IFS. Perhaps Nami would be able to confirm whether the IFS is indeed handling these cases now, but it would appear to be the case as your punishment was issued so quickly.

When the IFS first launched, it wasn't quite ready to be able to address feeding because in many cases, someone who is intentionally feeding might look almost exactly the same as someone who got stomped in lane. Riot has always tried to err on the side of caution when it comes to reports of intentional feeding. If there's even a little bit of evidence that a player might have been trying and simply playing badly rather than feeding, then reports that have been submitted in the past may not have led to punishment. Riot has never wanted to unfairly punish innocent players for something they haven't done, and unfortunately that does mean that some intentional feeders have slipped under the radar.

But the IFS has been active for a while now, and Riot has been saying that they were going to add in the capability to process reports for intentional feeding. So, it is entirely possible that they have added that feature in. While buying two pair of boots alone will not flag an account for banning, it may be taken into account as another piece of evidence by the IFS that a player is not actively trying to play and win the game. From the cases of players who were banned for feeding prior to this, one of the biggest things that was consistently noted was a lack of kill participation. Specifically, no assists. Even a player who is destroyed in lane can still become useful by becoming a meat-shield for the carries in later teamfights, which would give them at least some assists. But players who have no kills, no assists, no cs, barely any exp; those players are easily marked as being feeders under any system. It's just that most cases of feeding are not that easy to prove.

One last thing about the notifications - you only get the pop-up if yours is the last report that triggers the punishment. Any other players who report that player do not get the alert. So, just because you don't see the pop-up, doesn't mean that the person wasn't given a punishment. Also, because cases of intentional feeding weren't handled by the IFS before, it did sometimes take them longer to be reviewed and doesn't mean the player wasn't eventually punished if you didn't see them punished the next day or week.

When Riot stepped away from the Tribunal they stepped towards automated enforcement. Such a system would have to be programmed with several variables to identify legitimate intentional feeding vs. a bad game. I hadn't thought about it before, but what you say makes a lot of sense about a lack of assists, low experience, and low cs being symptoms to diagnose intentional feeding. It's speculation on my part to say that it may even track map movement and proximity to teammates for those situations where someone is intentionally afk pushing until they die. I like the idea of the raw data being correlated against known instances of intentional feeding... If someone fills his inventory with tears and runs down mid over and over, then his movements, non-existent cs, lack of assists, low experience and high number of deaths are numbers you could compare a suspect case to.

Also, Ventress thank you for informing me about the pop-up... I've always wondered why so many toxic individuals escaped punishment. However, if not all whistle-blowers are receiving notifications about the results of their report, then it explains a lot.

OnlyYouCanHearMeMay 4, 20171 votes

I've always assumed that the reason they took so long in letting the IFS go live for tracking and punishing feeding was that they wanted to be certain it could reliably differentiate the variables. To the best of my knowledge, the system does track map movement, though I am not sure about proximity to teammates. I seem to recall hearing once, a long, long time ago about a player trying to say he wasn't afk, but they pulled the data and he was basically running back and forth from his buff to his base, without doing anything. He was eventually punished for being afk because he wasn't farming, wasn't ganking, wasn't doing anything but moving to avoid being kicked from the game.

This is just my speculation, but given that some players may actually take quite a while to amass enough reports to reach a punishment threshold, and others have a significant number of reports, both of which can make it impractical for the system to send notifications to all players for all reports. In the case of the former, those players would be unlikely to recall the player or incident for which that player had been reported. And in the case of the latter, it would simply be a very large amount of notifications being sent out, possibly causing inconvenient drains on the servers. If you think about one player, they can be reported a few dozen times before being punished depending on what the standing of their account was prior to the first report (just going off of a specific case where I saw a Rioter quote ~50 reports between punishments). That's 50 pop-ups for that one player. Multiply that by the number of players being punished at any given time. That's a lot of pop-ups coming out at one time. I am not proficient enough with networking and such to know if that would be capable of causing lag spikes on the servers, but if so, it seems like it would likely upset more people than it would appease.

LawUrDepravdHartMay 4, 20171 votes

{quoted}

I've always assumed that the reason they took so long in letting the IFS go live for tracking and punishing feeding was that they wanted to be certain it could reliably differentiate the variables. To the best of my knowledge, the system does track map movement, though I am not sure about proximity to teammates. I seem to recall hearing once, a long, long time ago about a player trying to say he wasn't afk, but they pulled the data and he was basically running back and forth from his buff to his base, without doing anything. He was eventually punished for being afk because he wasn't farming, wasn't ganking, wasn't doing anything but moving to avoid being kicked from the game.

This is just my speculation, but given that some players may actually take quite a while to amass enough reports to reach a punishment threshold, and others have a significant number of reports, both of which can make it impractical for the system to send notifications to all players for all reports. In the case of the former, those players would be unlikely to recall the player or incident for which that player had been reported. And in the case of the latter, it would simply be a very large amount of notifications being sent out, possibly causing inconvenient drains on the servers. If you think about one player, they can be reported a few dozen times before being punished depending on what the standing of their account was prior to the first report (just going off of a specific case where I saw a Rioter quote ~50 reports between punishments). That's 50 pop-ups for that one player. Multiply that by the number of players being punished at any given time. That's a lot of pop-ups coming out at one time. I am not proficient enough with networking and such to know if that would be capable of causing lag spikes on the servers, but if so, it seems like it would likely upset more people than it would appease.

I've seen a number of instances recently whereby rioters confirm that it only takes one report to trigger a review of a player and that review could result in punishment depending upon the severity of the offense. I believe that point is illustrated by streamers who int on stream and then are immediately banned after the game. See from beginning up to 1:10- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3tVCD3Iaf4

Your point about amassing enough reports to reach a punishment threshold is something similar to the smite support nunu and smite support singed cases. In those cases they received bans for being reported in up to 50% of their games for adversely affecting the game for the players in it. It was undisputed that they were trying their best to win and not intentionally feeding.

I think one severe case is enough to trigger bans AND many reports for similar "misdemeanor" offenses can result in bans as well. In both instances I think it would be reassuring for the community to receive feedback if it doesn't affect gameplay. If it causes server lag to send out notifications to each individual who reported the offender, then I'm fine with it staying at 1 pop-up notification. However, for the sake of community morale I think every person who reported the punished offender should receive a notification. There are many posts on the boards whereby individuals claim Riot does nothing when that is not the case. Even worse, sometimes offenders can justify their violations by reasoning, "I reported someone for worse behavior before and they were not banned (because I didn't receive a pop-up) so I can engage in similar behavior without punishment."

That's a reason why criminal trials are open to the public. If the public sees that felons are punished for their crimes then they could be deterred from committing similar crimes themselves.

OnlyYouCanHearMeMay 5, 20171 votes

Since the IFS went live, every single report that is submitted triggers a review. It's the beauty of having such a highly efficient system that is capable of scanning for so many different types of rule violations. And you are correct, depending on the type of infraction, it may only take a single report to result in punishment. In the cases of intentional feeding, hate speech, threatening behavior and egregious harassment, a single verified report can trigger a punishment; in those cases it is often a 14 day or permanent suspension even for a first offense.

I didn't include the numbers for the two smite supports, simply because they both were extreme outliers. If I'm not mistaken, each of them had 200+ reports (one was closer to 500 I believe), even though they were actively trying to win the games. But the biggest thing about their cases was that they did not go through the IFS. They were reviewed manually due to the high volume of reports they were receiving, so even when the initial punishments were issued for them, that shouldn't have triggered the IFS pop-up notification. The case I was referring to was not for anything so outrageous. It was from a player complaining about a toxicity ban; I think it was for the 14 day suspension tier. I only remember it because it was the only time I've ever seen a Rioter quote an exact number of reports a player received.

Something that many players have mentioned, and that goes along with that idea, is the idea of a "report card" for players at regular intervals. Most players do seem to want to know what sort of effect their reports are having, and getting some sort of numbers, perhaps quarterly, or seasonally, listing how many reports were submitted, and how many of those players were punished, possibly even what level of punishments were given (obviously without giving the punished player's names for privacy) could be a way of reassuring players without running into risks of potential issues on the server side. Though it might not even be a big issue on the server side, I'm not sure. Tantram might know, he's quite the smart cookie.

GlîtchyMay 1, 201725 votes

Int feeding because you couldn't remake, then all 3 of you started doing it and you expect zero consequences?

https://i.imgflip.com/qn3xl.jpg

FiryaMay 1, 20172 votes

whats the big diffrence between this and opening mid? both get the game to end fast, this way is faster.

SarutobiMay 1, 201716 votes

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whats the big diffrence between this and opening mid? both get the game to end fast, this way is faster.

and both are reportable/punishable!

FiryaMay 1, 20172 votes

and both are ways people react to 'no quitting the game pre 20' option.

archerno1May 1, 20178 votes

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and both are ways people react to 'no quitting the game pre 20' option.

Ye but all 5(or in your case 4) people have to agree to that. THAT is crucial fact. Since 2 people didnt agree, you deliberately broke rules. So yes, you deserve your ban and all things coming with it.

Also thats not first time u did it. You did it 2 weeks ago with Gnar.