I just got perma banned and my chatlogs dont reflect a perma ban (IMO)

Utility BackIine·9/14/2017, 8:06:46 PM·14 votes·9,121 views

Hello,

I have been playing since Pre-Season 1 and just got one of my many accounts Permanently Banned. Attached is the chatlog to my one and only game of chatlog provided. Thoughts? Is this perma ban deserved? I don't think it is, but if it happened, then perhaps the public can help me see why this is perma ban worthy. I do appreciate constructive feedback, as I have 4 more accounts to play on I'd like to avoid losing them as well, but I really do not see this as a perma ban. I understand how the banning works in that I have received prior punishments, but if this is all it took to get the final nail in the coffin - then idk... seems a little odd to me. I could be wrong though!

Game 1 Utility BackIine: kog barrier Utility BackIine: most interesting Utility BackIine: barrier sucks bot lane, but 17 yr olds are radical beings Utility BackIine: we do fight Utility BackIine: 2v2 we win Utility BackIine: i play aggro Utility BackIine: hence iginite and maxing Q Utility BackIine: yes Utility BackIine: i do Utility BackIine: brb op.gg time Utility BackIine: p5 50 games Utility BackIine: knew it Utility BackIine: you're not Utility BackIine: at all Utility BackIine: 50 games p5 Utility BackIine: kek Utility BackIine: muted Utility BackIine: kog im telling you im a smurf we win every 2v2 Utility BackIine: mute riven hes low p4 Utility BackIine: fight dont run Utility BackIine: ? Utility BackIine: we win 2v2s if you fight Utility BackIine: you cancelled 2 autos Utility BackIine: i get to diamond ez raka aggro Utility BackIine: ? Utility BackIine: muted Utility BackIine: oh you started cull Utility BackIine: ... Utility BackIine: so you force us into a passive playstyle Utility BackIine: which will cost us lane Utility BackIine: you need to be more open to teamwork Utility BackIine: dont fight Utility BackIine: dont fight Utility BackIine: im still maxing Q Utility BackIine: dont fight Utility BackIine: you said it 5 times Utility BackIine: we dont win 2v2s Utility BackIine: wtf... Utility BackIine: i literally listened to you and now you want to fight Utility BackIine: the money i earn from playing aggro Utility BackIine: needs to be compensated for if im playing passive Utility BackIine: i have items to Utility BackIine: if wewere fighting and winnning 2v2s id have no qualm with you farming Utility BackIine: ur afk not farming Utility BackIine: i see Utility BackIine: so thats how we're having fun :) ok Utility BackIine: I need items as well, and you guys are honestly not watching whats happening bot lane Utility BackIine: hes afk'd 4 times to type Utility BackIine: costing himself cs Utility BackIine: all i care about is winning an getting items Utility BackIine: see? Utility BackIine: no? Utility BackIine: sotp typing Utility BackIine: i was buying Utility BackIine: azir bot Utility BackIine: athenes works well with Q maxing Utility BackIine: you can Utility BackIine: yes you can Utility BackIine: you can entirely Utility BackIine: I've done it manytimes on many accounts Utility BackIine: 91 games Utility BackIine: atually

EDIT: I wanted to make a quick edit that since Riot Tantram advised me to open a ticket, I will do that. I never like leaving people in the dark so when the ticket is responded to, and regardless of how it is resolved. I will make a final edit letting you all know the outcome.

Cheers,

FINAL EDIT: I made a final posting as promised to allow those who helped me see the outcome. Thank you all for the constructive feedback. I'll try it Riot's way and see if they can handle all my bullies for me. Admittedly it has been a long time since I've asked an adult to handle bullies, but it worked in elementary I can only assume it will work again.

142 Comments

RiotRiot Tantram9/14/2017, 10:09:24 PM26 votes

This chat log in itself would never result in a perma-ban. The issue is you have had many penalties, and got off a 14-day ban not long ago. It was on the lightest end of a chat restriction penalty.

Things don't start off great for you. You immediately start off with giving you lane mate shit about their summoner choice. Not the greatest way to start a budding bot lane relationship <3. After that, your behavior isn't super bad, but you do continue to argue.

Open a ticket with player support. They will review your previous games and see if arguing with teammates is a 1 off after your previous penalties, or if it's something that is a norm.

May the odds be ever in your favor.

DrCyanide9/14/2017, 8:18:35 PM9 votes

Yeah, I'm throwing my vote in with the OP*. This seems like a mistake, especially if this was the only game that the system could pull.

######*Usual "assuming this is the full story and not edited" disclaimer applies.

ModUlanopo9/14/2017, 11:07:20 PM5 votes

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The issue is you have had many penalties, and got off a 14-day ban not long ago.

I would like to focus on that specific line.

The main reason Riot switched from a 7+ step "punishment volcano" to the 4-step version we have now is that they discovered whether or not someone changes their behavior has very little to do with the specific punishment or its length. Put another way, it doesn't matter if the first action is a warning or a 2-week suspension.

So, when I see how your posts in this thread are focused more on arguing your behavior "wasn't that bad" than on how you can change to prevent further problems, it reinforces my belief that this perspective on punishment is, in fact, justified. I hope your support ticket gets you your account back and, if it does, I would strongly suggest you focus on how you can be different.

Good luck.

archerno19/14/2017, 8:56:50 PM4 votes

Did u have 14 days ban before?

Rhia9/14/2017, 8:20:17 PM3 votes

This is pretty PG for a chat log compared to my games.

Unjust perma ban but you should learn to relax a little if riot admits a mistake and unbans you.