Pointing out the reason for aggression and toxicity in you games

Super Bad Time··1 votes·562 views

So do you ever wonder why players are toxic or aggressive towards you or the rest of your team in game.

well im going to tell you why that is. The aggression and toxicity you see from players is a reaction and response to what you or your team is doing towards them, like saying something they didnt like or not listening during a game when they are trying to tell you something or just plain trolling.

that is the reason players get aggressive and toxic and the reason why alot of accounts get banned, not im right up there with all of you that respond to all of it and become aggressive and toxic.... because its hard for me not to point out the blatantly obvious to another player of what they are doing wrong, how to fix it and leave it at that. but i have this thing that how i speak is what makes players see me as toxic, and its sort of not fair when most games im trying to have fun yet i get punishments galore because of how sensitive the kids are now a days.

here is an example of something i said to another player.

Example: "Would you stop them from roaming bot, im out of wards when they roam and we end up getting killed because you are not contesting the roam."

i dont see how that is toxic or negative but the sensitive players see it that way and it makes no sense. seriously i grew up talking like this im not gonna change beause of sensitive players not like what i have to say.

if you cant chat with your team then how to you expect to play the game well.

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AMYS GRAVE3 votes

seriously i grew up talking like this im not gonna change

If you keep doing what you've always done you will keep getting what you've always gotten. In this case its punishments. good luck.

Super Bad Time1 votes

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If you keep doing what you've always done you will keep getting what you've always gotten. In this case its punishments. good luck.

i can see you grew up in the P.C. culture phase which is the whole reason why league is going down hill fast

Magical Player1 votes

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i can see you grew up in the P.C. culture phase which is the whole reason why league is going down hill fast

Sigh, look PC or not stop being a dick. Its not hard, the real world has limited availability for people who belittle others. If you grew up learning to be a dick, we all did. We grow out of it, one day you will think so yourself. Or you'll continue to be a dick. People need to work together to achieve anything of note, individual mentality gets you nowhere

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Who did you debate this with? which lucky riot employee was luck enough to have this debate with you?

Also learned behaviors do not consist of natural elements. You grew up on way, so you act one way. Only works for good natured people in the world we live in

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

Not PC, you can do whatever you want you just have to live with the consequences of your actions. To think otherwise is simply entitlement.

Super Bad Time1 votes

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Not PC, you can do whatever you want you just have to live with the consequences of your actions. To think otherwise is simply entitlement.

well yeah i never said i was not responsible for the actions of myself, but those actions, are a response and defensive measure of protection for most of us that have them, so even though we are responible there is always another action that makes it respond

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

The aggression and toxicity you see from players is a reaction and response to what you or your team is doing towards them, like saying something they didnt like or not listening during a game when they are trying to tell you something or just plain trolling.

A responsible defensive measure would be to ignore what they are saying or just mute them if they are saying things you don't like, and we are under no obligation to listen to what they have to say. No one can make you respond to anything in league. You choose when, where, and who you engage with.

Anomander2 votes

Example: "Would you stop them from roaming bot, im out of wards when they roam and we end up getting killed because you are not contesting the roam."

This wouldn't get you punished.

Why not post your chat logs.......

Maximum Morde1 votes

Unlikely since I don't talk to people at all its more likely that they are poorly socialized with regards to handling their own disappointment.

Super Bad Time1 votes

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Unlikely since I don't talk to people at all its more likely that they are poorly socialized with regards to handling their own disappointment.

so what your saying is that 95% of the entire player base is poorly socialized and constantly in disappoint right. because if you believe that then you should tell riot that they are punishing the wrong portion of players, since most of the times i speak like in the example im nice and calm and having a fun time, i would say 30% of all my game some person has some grip with how i speak or play and they dont like it.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Yes, given the average age and demographic of online pvp video game players. It is quite likely they are not terribly well versed in proper behavior. They'll grow out of it though.

Edit: I would like to mention that while I assume the general trend above is true, I try not to prejudge any individual as macro level data isn't necessarily applicable to individuals.

Super Bad Time1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JqPegJAt,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-11T19:58:01.969+0000)

Yes, given the average age and demographic of online pvp video game players. It is quite likely they are not terribly well versed in proper behavior. They'll grow out of it though.

that may be, but it's more like the P.C. culture that went through a little while back is what is getting to stick around. dont get me wrong i have been negative and toxic, but there is a difference with that and just knowing when someone is generally annoyed.

look im not gonna lie, im 29 and everyone around where i live knows how i speak is never gonna change no matter how mad they get at it, but i shouldnt be punished on league if i havent done anything wrong. i mean really telling me that more then 1% of my game is negative and that is the reason for punishments, that is uncalled for, and i know how of all the games i have playeed it around 1-5% of them were toxic, no where near where they say. Riot just doesnt know the difference of how to speak properly or annoyed Versus speaking negativily and toxic

Maximum Morde1 votes

Maybe, or its that they are using a machine learning system to punish folks, a system which learns from player input, which is a flawed source to begin with.

Super Bad Time1 votes

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Maybe, or its that they are using a machine learning system to punish folks, a system which learns from player input, which is a flawed source to begin with.

well they are using that sort of machine and the specialists which should be well educated in this which are basically talking to your ISP tech support, do not have a clue, i basically debated the point with one of them a minute ago and they see to only want to justify that your punishment is valid regardless what others say or do because it does not give you a right to say or do what you want in return, which is not how i was raised and if im going to be punished on a game for how i was raised to speak and act then im going to tell my mother and father that they were just called bad parents.

Basically that is what riot is calling your parents when you get punished by your natural way of speaking.

nerak231 votes

So do you ever wonder why players are toxic or aggressive towards you or the rest of your team in game.

Nope! You must have a special touch to do this in games.

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