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Riot has just took my money and time and just left me here.

Omen Grinch··5 votes·1,189 views

I have played for quite some time and man it was fun always playing in a 5 Man Queue. But one day I got an e-mail about me getting banned which was a huge shock because I've never thought about anything like that happening to me in my life. I've spent about around $70 in this game. I enjoyed it, it became a passion until I got banned for something I didn't do. That really p*ssed me off because like I said I didn't do anything so I got on to try and log in and well it said I got perma-banned.

This made me more mad than anything, Because of a year I've spent on this game and $70 all there but unreachable and only because the banning system banned me for something I've never done.

Honestly that's f*cked up (pardon my language) that my account got banned for something I've never done in the first place.

And I'm not going to just sit here and restart all the way from the beginning because this has some real value to me and I've had some lucky moments with this account and I'm not going to start over because riot's sh*tty banning system bans an account that had nothing to do with scripting, and is not getting his account back whenever all of this was was a banning system that banned the wrong person.

33 Comments

EvilDustMan3 votes

Seventy?! Light weight.

Flaherty2 votes

They usually send you a reason why you got banned, so what was it?

Omen Grinch1 votes

Scripting. Which personally I don't even know how to do.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

did u install something to the client? if you did then you are done goofed

Omen Grinch1 votes

No. I've checked it.

bad arcade kitty2 votes

[unfair in your opinion] permaban = immediate chargeback

FurriesAreHot2 votes

Again, that illegal, you can face fines/ jail time for fraudulent charge backs. I went to lawschool this man doesn't know what he is talking about.

bad arcade kitty2 votes

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Again, that illegal, you can face fines/ jail time for fraudulent charge backs. I went to lawschool this man doesn't know what he is talking about.

yet again, it's completely legal and a common practice i am glad that you went to lawschool but it's a pity they didn't teach you anything there

FurriesAreHot2 votes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chargeback_fraud

bad arcade kitty1 votes

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chargeback_fraud

except in this case it's not fraud since you don't keep any goods which you paid for on your hands and neither you try to chargeback a subscription for the time which you had already played/used. it's a fair use of the function

funnily how you try to defend rito for free

p.s. i take it your laww school was wikipedia

FurriesAreHot2 votes

Friendly fraud thrives in the digital products market where it is much easier for fraudsters to succeed. Common targets include pornography and gambling websites.[5] Attempts by the merchant to prove that the consumer received the purchased goods or services are difficult. Again, the use of card security codes can show that the cardholder (or, in the case of the three-digit security codes written on the backs of U.S credit cards, someone with physical possession of the card or at least knowledge of the number and the code) was present,[citation needed] but even the entry of a security code at purchase does not by itself prove that delivery was made, especially for online or via-telephone purchases where shipping occurs after finalization of the contract. Proof of delivery is often difficult, and when it cannot be provided, the cardholder gets the product without paying for it.

One method of combating friendly fraud is to create a feature in the product that checks in with the merchant's database. If a chargeback is issued, the merchant can tell the product to suspend service. This tactic will also work for digital subscription services or any other online product that requires updates or logins. The merchant will usually still be charged a fee for incurring a chargeback, so this is not a complete solution.

From the article, all it took was scrolling down another 2 inches. Also, my lawschool was NOT wikipedia

bad arcade kitty1 votes

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Friendly fraud thrives in the digital products market where it is much easier for fraudsters to succeed. Common targets include pornography and gambling websites.[5] Attempts by the merchant to prove that the consumer received the purchased goods or services are difficult.

you bother to read my post (i fixed it a bit, it had to be simply "goods") and what you quote? in the case which you quoted they pay for goods/services and then they claim they didn't receive them when they actually have received them, in this case you pay for a permanent access to certain goods (skins, champions etc) and that access was taken away from you when you were banned, it's a completely different case. if lol was subscription-based then trying to chargeback subscription for the period that you have already played would be a fraud indeed, of if you bought some actual merchandaise from lol and then chargebacked when you received it, it's a fraud too, but it is not the case

it's a fair use, not fraud, sure, it can be questioned too, like rito can try to bring up their tos, though it's not likely they try to bother and if they do they succeed, but it still remains a fair use

FurriesAreHot1 votes

No, you "rent" the good in question, if you do something to have it revoked, IE: Get banned. then You lose the access to it, and thus, making it illegal to chargeback, you are digging your grave deeper.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

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No, you "rent" the good in question, if you do something to have it revoked, IE: Get banned. then You lose the access to it, and thus, making it illegal to chargeback, you are digging your grave deeper.

you really have problems with logic

if you paid for a permanent access to something (i didn't even say you bought it) and that access was cancelled it's a fair reason for a chargeback and it would be definitely not a fraud

i would say you even more, it's not a fraud to chargeback a skin (for instance elementalist lux) if you dislike its quality if you don't keep the skin afterwards (as if rito would allow you to)

IcyPepper2 votes

if you paid for a permanent access to something

Your account has permanent access to it.

But you do not have permanent access to your account, because you don't own your account.

Fun fact, if you read the ToS.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

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Your account has permanent access to it.

But you do not have permanent access to your account, because you don't own your account.

Fun fact, if you read the ToS.

where did i mention you own something? you simply paid for a permanent service and it was cancelled (you can't log in in your account), therefore your chargeback is not a fraud and is almost guaranteed to succeed

IcyPepper1 votes

you simply paid for a permanent service and it was cancelled (you can't log in in your account),

But you didn't pay for your account, you paid for things your account does access.

Your account doesn't lose access to any services you purchased, you just can't access your account. Which means if you got your account back, it would still have those things.

So no, you can't.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

{quoted}

But you didn't pay for your account, you paid for things your account does access.

Your account doesn't lose access to any services you purchased, you just can't access your account. Which means if you got your account back, it would still have those things.

So no, you can't.

you lose the access to your acc and all the goods and it's the case

also it's a useless discussion, i think i explained my point of view clearly and also while it doesn't violate the rules of forum i dunno how long they are going to tolerate it (access to the forum isn't a right blah blah blah copypasta from 4chan in their rules), so i am stopping it, i participated simply because i pity all those whom rito permabans on a whim and who think they can do nothing about it, certainly not to argue with some rito fanboys.

imo riot would better have fired their community managers and got new ones, their ban policy is notorious, like a typical liberal inquisition in action

IcyPepper1 votes

like a typical liberal inquisition in action

or a typical conservative business terminating contracts because the other party violated the agreement?

You people really need to learn how to read Terms of Service and other legal stuff before you go legaleze on everyone.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

No, you GAVE your money and time. They did not break into your house or bank accounts. YOU decide how much your investment is worth. Apparently not very much since you got yourself banned. If it meant that much to you, you should have treated it with better care and respected the rules.

Omen Grinch1 votes

I did respect the rules. I've just gotten banned for something that I didn't do. That's what this is all about.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

You might want to change the title or address it because "getting banned for something you didn't do" is not the only thing you whined about. Whine about one thing at a time if you don't want to talk about all of your points....

Constantiine1 votes

i love how you assume hes guilty of this ? RIOT has been willy nilly with their banns of late. i think a riot employee should check this case out.

Weathered1 votes

Mind mentioning what the name of the account that was banned was? I don't mean to sound insensitive but pleas about how much money was spent on an account or being frustrated come up daily on PB&M and it's become routine for me to just ask for specifics to find out of the ban was justifiable.

Omen Grinch1 votes

Omen Grinch was the summoner name. And around $70. And you're fine.

Weathered1 votes

Huh. I assumed it was a different account and you were posting from an alt, you have no ranked games. Most cases are from MMR boosting in ranked, however I guess its possible to MMR boost normals..?

Make sure you didn't touch any of the files of the client, use an programs for mice with keybinds, or undergo any odd driver updates. I would just wait on the ticket for now.

Constantiine1 votes

whats the point of boosting mmr in normals ? you get no reward and your matched agenst good people so you get trashed in every game.

Weathered1 votes

There really isn't a point to it, which is why I found the situation odd.

Omen Grinch1 votes

Yeah thats what i'm saying. If you look up my summoners profile (Omen Grinch) all I play is Normal's because Ranked is too toxic I've played 1 ranked match and did i get flamed for missing a blitzcrank hook lol.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

really, guise, it's ridiculous no game permabans its customers, paying customers too, as easy as rito does it nowadays in almost every other game permabans go mostly for actual hacks (even then, a few issue temp bans for those) and for fraud, very rarely if ever for chat abuses as customers you have the rights too, you can't be easily ditched on a whim regardless of the tos, because there are some laws you know you shouldn't really tolerate it and the more so justify it like these forum rito pets do

Kei1431 votes

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/79/79af6b3bc5b23131ace1d835c402fa444ebd7cfc574c6b040665280337e74d7e.jpg

KennyMungarro1 votes

$70 in this game is nothing, and you should say on your post why you got banned, and what riot said to you, i dont know man, this looks fishy

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