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Riot games throwing around perma bans like they don't matter.

vFlukey··1 votes·2,134 views

Well $700+ dollars and 4 years of game play later... I got permanently banned for saying someone was shit. Racism? Sexism? Telling people to KYS and die in a hole? Running it down midlane to feed multiple times in a row? Nope. My teammates refused to communicate and help, and I told them they were shit. Pretty anti climatic when you think about the word PERMANENT BAN.

Who cares that this guy has played for four years? Who cares that this guy gave us $700 for some shitty ingame skins? No warning, No chances. 1 Single game decided the future for a 4 year old account.

This is absolutely mind-boggling that Riot games have a "No tolerance" policy on a competitive game. Competitiveness means emotions and tension will run high. That is a by-product of competitive games. Why the fuck do you think that you can throw a ban out because the competitiveness pushed someone over-board? Slap them with a 1 month ban, see how they go from there. But to permanently remove them from the game based on few instances? Unjust.

The circumstances under which I was permanently banned simply weren't there. I tried my absolute hardest that game to win, I was competitive and when my team played poorly It made me angry. But I wanted to win. It pushed me overboard and I ranted about how bad my teammates were. Does this really deserve an absolute, final and permanent ban from the game? Not a warning or a lesser punishment? I've seen games where people literally tell the opponents to kill themselves, to die in a hole. I've seen games where people bought 6 tears and ran down mid. I've seen the worst of it and at the end of the day, I wouldn't even wish a permanent ban on those people.

"Fuck competitiveness. Fuck giving people a chance. Fuck improving at the game and thanks for the $700" - Riot Games

If the last thing you cucks at riot do is remove this post without at least acknowledging it I will be very disappointed. This should be a warning to others to not invest too much into this game. It'll all be thrown right back into your face without a second thought.

33 Comments

AeroWaffle5 votes

Before you start your campaign of rage against Riot, what does it say when you try to log into your account? Is there a year that you are banned until?

Riot hands out perma-bans for things like charge-back problems, which are completely reversible (and identifiable by the year ban date).

But if you received chat logs? Then yeah, you probably shouldn't have been a dick in chat. I find it highly unlikely that you went straight to a perma for just saying something as mild as, "someone was shit". You'll have to provide proof to convince me otherwise.

It's much more likely you said something far more severe, or you're hiding the fact that you've had multiple bans before this final infraction.

vFlukey2 votes

No chat logs. Just a ban and an automated email.

Deep Terror Nami5 votes

If you didn't receive a reform card then you were punished manually after a hand review of your case. You can get more information by submitting a Support Ticket.

AeroWaffle3 votes

I find that highly unusual.

Does it specifically mention your behavior? If so, you really should have received chat logs. If you didn't, you should contact support to get it.

If it says something about 3rd-party application use, Riot believes you used cheats and banned you for it.

vFlukey2 votes

"Due to the extreme nature of toxic behaviour". The thing is yes, I admit I WAS toxic. Was it extreme? No. This was 1 of something like 20 games I've played where i was toxic. Extreme nature would suggest a constant trend of extremely toxic behavior, something I didn't demonstrate.

AeroWaffle1 votes

You'll have to follow the advice of Deep Terror Nami.

You being perma-banned for the first offence coupled with the "Due to the extreme nature of toxic behaviour" statement leads me to believe you are severely downplaying what you've said to get yourself banned. But feel free to prove me wrong with chat logs once you receive them from support.

And if the chat logs are indeed completely mild, you could try and provide an argument to Riot that your punishment shouldn't have jumped straight to the perma.

Sørén3 votes

Dang, I've always gotten warnings for verbal abuse or whatever. And ever since I've gotten those warnings, I've stopped breaking the LoL guidelines, tried to be not toxic or flame at all. But something like that, just getting perma'd on the spot, no warnings, nothing, that's kinda crazy in my opinion. But, we haven't seen exactly what you said in that game.

No flash no life3 votes

Your opinion has no say in this. Whether you liked their rules or not, you did agree to abide to them, then you went back on your own words. You were given plenty of warnings whenever terms of uses popped up after every patch.

I seriously, seriously doubt one single game got you permanently banned, though, considering how lenient riot is. I mean, in my opinion one offense should lead to permanent ban so if what you said is true then the way they dealt with it is the exact ideal I hold, but I strongly doubt it unless things were taken to the extreme. Did they actually respond with that one single game's chat log saying that was the sole cause of it?

ModPrandine2 votes

Sorry but no one that isn't a banned troll rager is gonna believe your argument unless you post your reform card first. Also, just because you spend money on this game doesn't mean that you're immune to the rules as you're not. From Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:

Riot bans people because they make money off of forcing people to create new accounts and repurchase the skins.”

Just stop. This is a really silly argument. I didn’t pay for my account any more than you did and while I have bought a number of things, I didn’t have to. There’s nothing relevant to competitive play that I couldn’t have bought with IP.

Also, Riot actively discourages people from making new accounts.

From Lyte: (link (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=33432435#post33432435))

Actually, if we're permabanning you we don't want your money or your time. Just find another game.

(Help from MadmanWithBox)

From the Tribunal FAQ:

Do paying players get leniency? Paying customers are treated exactly the same as non-paying customers by the Tribunal.

vFlukey1 votes

Never said I was immune to the rules because I bought a lot of skins.

ModPrandine1 votes

{quoted}

Never said I was immune to the rules because I bought a lot of skins.

I never said you did, but your opening post gives the impression that because you spend allot money on the game that you deserve special treatment from Riot because of it. Also, here's another passage from Ulanopo's Knoweldge Base to address your "competitive game" argument:

You scrubs are not my peers. You don’t understand the stress of competitive play.”

Actually, take a look at the pro-Tribunal posters. There are as many gold+ players among us as there are in the general population. It’s a fallacy that you have to be a jackass to be competitive. In fact, there’s a precise, disciplined style of play that’s very popular. Remember Ice Man from Top Gun?

That’s not the point, however. Riot doesn’t want jerks in any tier of play, The rules apply to everyone equally and MMR is not a perquisite to knowing what is and is not abusive.

Ultimately though no one can help you out a whole lot here until you post your reform card first. Once you do that, only then will more people be able to help you out.

vFlukey1 votes

Thanks for helping me understand that league isn't the game for me. Going to go find another game where swearing doesn't get you perma-banned. "Who cares about improving? Just don't hurt my feelings :(" - Bad players of league of legends

Pathetic.

Also gold players? Gold elo is shit.

ModPrandine1 votes

{quoted}

Thanks for helping me understand that league isn't the game for me. Going to go find another game where swearing doesn't get you perma-banned. "Who cares about improving? Just don't hurt my feelings :(" - Bad players of league of legends

Pathetic.

Also gold players? Gold elo is shit.

You're missing the point. You're not banned for just swearing in general. You're banned for swearing at others and being a jerk. Riot doesn't care if you cuss as long as you don't cuss at others. If you can't resist the urge to swear and cuss at others and be a jerk to others then you're right, this game is not for you. From the Tribunal FAQ:

What's the point of having a language filter if I can get banned for 'adult' language? We aren't out to punish players who use adult language; in fact, very few players are ever banned for saying stuff like "f***, I missed that skill shot" or "damn, fing close game!" However, the language filter is not an excuse to verbally abuse someone in the game. When you verbally abuse or harass someone by calling them "fing *****" or "ngger noob", that's when you've crossed the line and will be punished by the Tribunal. I've said this before and I'll say it again, we aren't trying to clean online games of adult language; we're trying to reform or get rid of jerks who like to verbally abuse and harass other players.

Why is verbal abuse punishable if there is a mute button/language filter? Players shouldn’t need to rely on features like the mute button or language filter to engage with other players in positive ways. When a player verbally abuses another player and forces him to use the mute button, they have already created a negative experience for that player.

Astôlfo2 votes

Which is why you went on and on about spending $700+ when it doesn't mean a flying fuck.

Sythriel Draken2 votes

what's even funnier is that riot is firing all their behavioral people (first lyte, then a few others) who disagreed with the system.. Guess they really don't like their player base at all.

Astôlfo3 votes

Lyte wasn't fired lmao.

Tazimuss2 votes

You never showed your chat logs. It's quite obvious, from my perspective, that you were toxic and got banned. There's 100% no way they permanently banned you for saying "You are shit". Chat logs or RIP.

AeroWaffle1 votes

Let's be fair here. OP is claiming he didn't receive any. And support wouldn't have already gotten back to him already.

Astôlfo2 votes

Stop whining. Get out. Bye bye! Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out :^)

vFlukey1 votes

Hahaha you made me cringe. Well done!

Astôlfo1 votes

Don't worry, the feeling's mutual.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Show us your chat logs if you have any.

There are other reasons though for why it might have happened.

Surr20plz1 votes

HAHAHAA

I love that you kids have started calling each other "cucks".

Fucking hilarious.

Troll Armada1 votes

Folks this is a tip for the next poster:

Don't use how much money you spent on your account:

"Well $700+ dollars"

Because 1. nobody cares, and 2. that will be used against you in any future discussions. ...when you are trying to make an argument, don't give your opponents ammunition....and there is a legitimate argument to be made here.

Toxic pre-mades are roaming the league, getting people falsely reported, and riot won't wake the F up and do something about it.

vFlukey1 votes

It's to put into perspective how liberally they can throw out a ban. The value of the account should be taken into consideration when PERMANENT banning it because you really need to sit down and question; Does this person really deserve it? In my case I didn't.

Troll Armada1 votes

Really? really? You think that they should consider how much you've spent before banning you?

Well, then, every booster, and account seller out there is worth a hundred times more than you ever will be.

vFlukey1 votes

It shows how much they have invested and how much they will lose if the account is permanently banned.

Troll Armada1 votes

How very short sighted of you. You have a future as a CEO ahead of you.

vFlukey1 votes

Irrelevant comment.

Troll Armada1 votes

Is it?

Nik Nikerson1 votes

That's something YOU should take into account, not Riot.

EvilDustMan1 votes

What about all the chances you had after chat restrictions and the 14 day ban?

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