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Do NOT click 'I Understand' If You Did Nothing Wrong

Im0nAcid··2 votes·2,400 views

Or even if you were wrongfully punished. Riots instant feeback system is bullshit. You can have a team full of toxic apes and they all gang up on you with a 4x report but the moment you even think about reporting them you're already suspended. You can't even stand your ground because that will get you BANNED. You don't even get priority queues anymore, you get a bugged chat restriction that claims you'll be able to use more chat @4:00 and never receive another. Then you get suspended. I got suspended for 2 fucking weeks... all because I retaliated on toxic players but I.. get suspended. It seems that riot approves of toxicity but standing your ground and proving toxic players wrong and or calling them out for hypocrisy gets you reported. That's just not fair.

If you click 'I Understand' it's like signing your name on a ticket, claiming you did something wrong. Don't click it if you are wrongfully punished.

Riot bring back priority queues BEFORE you suspend/ban a player (Also if you suspend a player, FIRST there needs to be a 24hr timeout, then a 48hr timeout, then a week, THEN a 2 week, THEN a BAN...)

Also FIX YOUR DAMN REPORT SYSTEM. There doesn't need to be an Ai looking over reports, because if you are defending yourself and YOU report someone, the system will punish you even if they DIDN'T report you. There needs to be a team of HUMANS looking at reports. The amount of people playing this game is GREATLY exaggerated so regional report teams would be fairly small as will bring PROPER and FAIR justice to the rift.

If you are a toxic player do NOT respond to this post because you are part of the problem riot refuses to fix

54 Comments

Jo0o14 votes

Amazing. Every word you just said was wrong.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Well that sucks since your opinion doesn't mean it's a fact :D but it's funny that you claim it's wrong but won't discuss why. The problem with this community is that everyone is closed-minded.

Negativity2 votes

{quoted}

Well that sucks since your opinion doesn't mean it's a fact :D but it's funny that you claim it's wrong but won't discuss why. The problem with this community is that everyone is closed-minded.

Your deluded my dude

TrulyBland10 votes

I actually agree with the general premise here: Don't click "I understand" if you didn't actually understand.

You, for example, seem to not understand that retaliating is against the rules and will be punished by AI and human review alike.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Which is understandable from an Ai's POV... but standing your ground to DEFEND yourself should at the very least be a chat restriction or priority queue. Fair and Proper punishment needs to have lines drawn. It's like a self defense case. I didn't swing first and I didn't critically injure the guy after I defended myself.

TrulyBland8 votes

You still unnecessarily swung second instead of simply activating your super-mega armour that comes with zero downsides and would have 100% prevented further damage.

If you knowingly neglect better methods of defence for the purpose of retaliating you can no longer reasonably claim that you were acting in self defence.

Xidphel6 votes

If you knowingly neglect better methods of defence

Gonna have to correct you there. BETTER methods implies the the method he's using is actually defense.

Paquay7 votes

FYI: signing a traffic ticket is not an admission of guilt. It is a a promise that you will either appear in court or pay the fine. If you don't sign, they can arrest you.

Source: more than 20 brain cells in my head.

Im0nAcid1 votes

If you sign a ticket that means you acknowledged you did something wrong. If you don't sign you WON'T get arrested I have no idea where you got that info from. If you show up to court (which I hope you do) they will put 'refusal to sign' which is perfectly legal. You can either fight to have the ticket dismissed or they will make you pay the fine.

Now they can arrest you based on your actions and what you were getting a ticket for, but not ALL tickets a traffic ticket won't get you arrested if you refuse to sign

Silent Gravity3 votes

California Vehicle Code 40302 states:

  1. Whenever any person is arrested for any violation of this code, not declared to be a felony, the arrested person shall be taken without unnecessary delay before a magistrate within the county in which the offense charged is alleged to have been committed and who has jurisdiction of the offense and is nearest or most accessible with reference to the place where the arrest is made in any of the following cases: (a) When the person arrested fails to present his driver's license or other satisfactory evidence of his identity for examination. (b) When the person arrested refuses to give his written promise to appear in court. (c) When the person arrested demands an immediate appearance before a magistrate. (d) When the person arrested is charged with violating Section 23152.

Signing the ticket is the promise to appear in court. Not signing it can lead to an arrest.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Oh well shit, I didn't know everyone everywhere in the world lived in Cali....[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Im0nAcid1 votes

also that is AFTER being arrested...

Silent Gravity4 votes

I believe that the code is using arrested to mean "legally detained", that is, the cop pulled them over.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Ok but if I know I didn't do anything wrong, there would be ZERO reason for me to be detained. The only reason you would be out of your vehicle is if the cop has reason to believe you are under the influence, breaking the law. If it's a routine traffic stop 90% of the time you don't have to leave your vehicle even if instructed to do so (assuming the is no reason for him to instruct you pr he failed to provide a reason)

It's like a cop arresting us without telling us our rights. (unless you told them you know your rights)

Silent Gravity2 votes

I can look up the pertinent code for any jurisdiction you desire.

Im0nAcid1 votes

All of them

good luck [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] (couldnt resist)

Umbral Regent6 votes

You can have a team full of toxic apes and they all gang up on you with a 4x report but the moment you even think about reporting them you're already suspended.

Wrong. If you do nothing wrong, it doesn't matter if four players report you, nine players report you, or even just one player reports you - those reports will be meaningless and no punishment will be applied.

More reports =/= more weight. Four reports weigh exactly the same as one report, as all they do is trigger a review. Tantram has shown us the code the IFS uses to execute a review - if the number of reports is greater than 0, the match is reviewed.

You can't even stand your ground because that will get you BANNED.

Why would you need to stand your ground? Just mute them and report them.

You don't even get priority queues anymore, you get a bugged chat restriction that claims you'll be able to use more chat @4:00 and never receive another. Then you get suspended.

The chat restriction isn't bugged, and you never got priority queues in the first place. The punishment system goes 10-game Chat Restriction > 25-game Chat Restriction > 14-day Suspension > Permanent Suspension, with tiers being skippable if your behavior was bad enough or if you're making it abundantly clear that you didn't get the message from a prior punishment.

I got suspended for 2 fucking weeks... all because I retaliated on toxic players but I.. get suspended.

Yeah? Because counterflame is still flame. Toxicity + Toxicity = More Toxicity. Riot doesn't want that, so you get punished for retaliating.

It seems that riot approves of toxicity...

Wrong.

...but standing your ground and proving toxic players wrong and or calling them out for hypocrisy gets you reported. That's just not fair.

Again, why do you feel the need to "stand your ground" in a videogame? Mute them, report them, and move on. It's not worth your time or your account to deal with toxic players.

If you click 'I Understand' it's like signing your name on a ticket, claiming you did something wrong. Don't click it if you are wrongfully punished.

The vast majority of punishments are not applied in error. Yours is no different. You retaliated, your punishment was correctly applied.

(Also if you suspend a player, FIRST there needs to be a 24hr timeout, then a 48hr timeout, then a week, THEN a 2 week, THEN a BAN...)

How many chances do you really need to learn that what you're doing is against the rules? The current punishment ladder is lenient enough. If you can't learn after the 25-game Chat restriction (which is a hefty enough penalty on its own), are you really going to learn after being forced out for a day? Two days?

No. The 14-day ban is Riot's last warning, and it's not going to be a gentle one.

Also FIX YOUR DAMN REPORT SYSTEM. There doesn't need to be an Ai looking over reports, because if you are defending yourself and YOU report someone, the system will punish you even if they DIDN'T report you.

...No, that's not how the system works. At all. If no one reports you, your behavior will not be reviewed, and you will not be punished. The IFS doesn't arbitrarily punish random players when only one person is reported. How you could even imagine the system working like that is crazy, but, then again, self-victimizing is a crazy thing.

There needs to be a team of HUMANS looking at reports. The amount of people playing this game is GREATLY exaggerated so regional report teams would be fairly small as will bring PROPER and FAIR justice to the rift.

Small teams cannot handle millions upon millions of reports.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Well atleast you used debating skills I'll give you that. But here's the thing. THERE WERE PRIORITY QUEUES FOR TOXICITY. It would be 5 games with a 25+min queue timer to even queue up, then a 10game and so on until there was a 1 day suspension then a week then 2 weeks.... they flat out removed that to 'solve' toxicity. No what they did was, make a system that would get anyone reported no matter what he/she to you. If you were defending yourself you get punished too which is total bs when considering that an Ai can't distinguish someone who was in the wrong (since they see everything as wrong)

My punishment was NOT done correctly for it's far too harsh. Especially considering the fact that once they began being insanely toxic (attacking me instead of attacking my performance) I muted them.

Emotes were literally created to be abused by the majority of the LoL community (which are toxic players) It's just more 'subtle'. If said otherwise then ima call it out as bs since there's too much visual evidence against that.

and chat restriction is bugged. In the 2 times I have been under a chat restriction punishment (the first time was for calling out a racist for calling my team mate a n*&$!r) I was only ever able to type 3 times.. and it would tell me I would be able to chat again at 4:00, there is no way you can tell me its NOT bugged if it's literally currently bugged (atleast for me)

Why would I stand my ground? Because I'm not a pussy or a pushover. I'm what you would call a human who doesn't take shit from little punks but I believe in fair and proper punishment. Which is why tribunal was so great. (sucks the removed it)

And the report system is flawed. False reports have gotten players punished... As a joke my buddy reported me for inting when I dove enemy fountain 1 second before we took their nexus AND I GOT SUSPENDED. Luckly it was a throw away account

Sorry for the unorganized reply. And again, I thank you for atleast responding in a more domestic sense

Umbral Regent4 votes

THERE WERE PRIORITY QUEUES FOR TOXICITY. It would be 5 games with a 25+min queue timer to even queue up, then a 10game and so on until there was a 1 day suspension then a week then 2 weeks....

Must've been 5+ years ago, then. I recall the Tribunal existing and the current punishment ladder coinciding at 4 years ago, so, my memory can tend to fail at anything I wasn't around for.

No what they did was, make a system that would get anyone reported no matter what he/she to you.

Reported, or punished? Because, anyone can report anyone for anything. The IFS reviews the matches to make sure those reports are valid, and, if they aren't...No punishment is applied.

And, regardless, as I mentioned in another post that you replied to, the IFS doesn't care what other players say when reviewing someone. The data Riot pulled from the Tribunal leaned heavily towards the community consensus that there's no difference between an instigator and a retaliator. Both are flamers, and both should be punished when reported.

If you were defending yourself you get punished too which is total bs when considering that an Ai can't distinguish someone who was in the wrong (since they see everything as wrong)

Retaliation is not defending oneself. It's retaliating. Counterflaming. Attacking back. You retaliate, you are in the wrong.

You can defend yourself (and others) without retaliating. All it takes is some well-thought wording.

My punishment was NOT done correctly for it's far too harsh. Especially considering the fact that once they began being insanely toxic (attacking me instead of attacking my performance) I muted them.

Question: Did you go through a 10-game chat restriction and 25-game chat restriction prior to your 14-day ban? If so, then yes, your punishment was issued correctly. Riot's not going to give you chat restriction after chat restriction after chat restriction. They want you to learn or to leave. The 14-day ban is supposed to be their message "stop now, or we're going to kick you out."

As for the toxic players: Mute them BEFORE they get "insanely toxic". Mute them when they start being toxic, PERIOD.

and chat restriction is bugged. In the 2 times I have been under a chat restriction punishment (the first time was for calling out a racist for calling my team mate a n*&$!r) I was only ever able to type 3 times.. and it would tell me I would be able to chat again at 4:00, there is no way you can tell me its NOT bugged if it's literally currently bugged (atleast for me)

I suppose you're right in a sense - there's no way I can tell you that it isn't bugged, because I haven't had a chat restriction. If you suspect it is bugged, though, go here.

Why would I stand my ground? Because I'm not a pussy or a pushover. I'm what you would call a human who doesn't take shit from little punks but I believe in fair and proper punishment. Which is why tribunal was so great. (sucks the removed it)

I'm not a pushover either, but the thing is, I don't give toxic players the time of day. Do no harm, take no shit. Fighting flamers with more flame only makes the game worse for everyone else - including you.

As for the Tribunal - the Tribunal is ostensibly fair because it involved community input. The issue is, it actually wasn't all that fair because most of the justice was being done on a backlog, meaning players were getting punishments for infractions committed months ago. That isn't fair or proper.

Which is why they removed it in favor of the IFS - it can review a match and issue an appropriate punishment within mere minutes, and on the scale of millions of matches with millions of reports. Plus, Riot still tweaks the IFS to match the community consensus of acceptable/unacceptable behavior. The abbreviation "KYS" used to not be zero-tolerance, but Riot saw the community really, genuinely did not like being told to kill themselves over a videogame, so they tweaked the IFS to consider it zero-tolerance.

And the report system is flawed. False reports have gotten players punished... As a joke my buddy reported me for inting when I dove enemy fountain 1 second before we took their nexus AND I GOT SUSPENDED. Luckly it was a throw away account

I'm disinclined to trust what you say on this matter - moreover, regarding your account being suspended. I know that there have been false-positive cases, but those are often very quickly rectified by Riot, and they are very few and very far between. The IFS may be in some way flawed - but it's certainly much better at its job than the community as a whole could be.

Chermorg6 votes

You don't even get priority queues anymore

Low Priority Queue was never a punishment for chat toxicity - and it still does exist for AFK, as it always has.

you get a bugged chat restriction that claims you'll be able to use more chat @4:00 and never receive another.

This is a known issue they are actively working on.

because if you are defending yourself and YOU report someone, the system will punish you even if they DIDN'T report you.

No, this is wrong. If you mute someone, that will never get you punished. You will furthermore never be punished if your behavior is not reported.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Honestly if you are an advisor then I'd surely like my 4 hours of time back for telling everyone to stfu since I played sona mid (got insanely flamed for it) and got priority queue for that with the inclusion of a chat restrict. (Season 6)

If it was known then why is it just now being said that its a known issue? I have yet to see anything until now about this issue, besides my own account

If you report someone even if you said something out of line the ai will check the match, if it detects that you have been misbehaving you will be punished too (confirmed with throw away accounts)

Chermorg5 votes

You would've gotten Low Priority Queue if you left the game or were AFK for a portion of the game. It is literally impossible to get low priority queue otherwise. Literally impossible. As in the system will not issue it unless you're flagged as AFK, and the AFK detection is tuned so generously to be impossible to get falsely flagged.

It is not just now being said it's a known issue, multiple Rioters have confirmed it on the boards and in tickets. There is no need for them to announce a known issue that has no resolution and only affects a very small percent of players in a more prominent manner - it'd be like any time someone complains their client crashed they made a server status post - it's unnecesasry.

No, you will not be punished unless you're reported. You have not confirmed that with throwaway accounts because it is not true and it is not how the system works. I get you're frustrated about how you think the system works, but there's either a flaw in your "experiment", or more likely you're making claims without any proof just because you think using false proof will help you. Please stop doing that. If you continue to spread this blatant misinformation and claim proof that a) doesn't exist and b) you refuse to provide other than general statements anyone can make, your thread will likely be locked or removed. Spreading misinformation deliberately with absolutely no proof is a violation of the Universal Rules on the boards.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Hold on while I get 3 year old account info and screenshots off of a laptop I no longer have. What I'm sensing here is a refusal to accept there are glitches in the system or doesn't like the fact Riots systems are being called out on their BS. I'm also sensing a bias against me (which you solely don't have the power in your position alone) proving that you should not be in the position you are in. Especially since you are implying a suspension or ban against me since I can not provide proof of my claim. Not everyone can keep evidence of every claim over the years. So if we were to take the BIBLE into account with this boards UNIVERSAL rules then would the AUTHOR(S) be banned from using this board?

I do apologize for my 'behavior' but I don't stand by lies and deceit or abuse of power which can get many people fired if word slips

Chermorg6 votes

There's no refusal to accept anything here, from anyone. There's also no bias.

The burden of proof for someone making claims on the internet (conspiracies, even) is on the one making the outrageous claim, or the one with the more spurious claim (less proof). Both of those are you in this case, yet your only proof is "Because I said so".

This board is designed for discussion of behavior systems. If you wish to use the board to discuss the current system, you may do so. If you intend only to use these boards to spread deliberate misinformation with no proof, that will not be tolerated, as it is detrimental to others' use of this board for its intended purpose.

You're free to come to the Boards Moderation Discord server if you'd like to verify with other members of the moderation team that deliberate misinformation is against the rules.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Just want to take into account of freedom of speech. I'm not slandering riot and im not on the news with false claims or evidence either.

Im just noticing lots of the company neglecting MANY problems that need FIXES and that they are respectively chasing the money rather than what the community has to say (which is a fact to some extents)

SnyperWulff4 votes

{quoted}

Just want to take into account of freedom of speech. I'm not slandering riot and im not on the news with false claims or evidence either.

Im just noticing lots of the company neglecting MANY problems that need FIXES and that they are respectively chasing the money rather than what the community has to say (which is a fact to some extents)

-sighs- here we go again, freedom of speech Only applies to the government. It protects you from unjust retaliation from our government for things you say towards them. It protects you from being jailed due to calling the president or your senator or governor an incompetent asshat.

**IT DOES NOT MEAN A PRIVATe COMPANY OR ENTITY CANNOT PUNISH YOU FOR BEING A VERBAL DONKEY ON THEIR WEBSITE OR GAME! **

Stop misquoting things.

Kei1435 votes

Hmmm... So.. You think that defending yourself is counter attacking back?

That's not defending, that's fighting back and you and the flamer are both in the wrong.

Im0nAcid1 votes

I agree that 2 wrong don't make a right, but in jail if you get called out for being a snitch and you don't defend yourself everyone is gonna think you are a snitch. Do you see where I'm getting at here?

In this game everyone is accused of inting because all they see is you dying and not how you got to that point. So if I get called a "trash player who ints" I'm going to reply with "Did you see how I died or did you just see that I died" they will usually start flaming after I call them out for not seeing the whole story then I would usually explain to them that they are being closed minded while telling them out I got surrounded while trying to farm safely UNDER my turret

Most of the time they will just start attacking me as a person and not me as a player

Aneirin2 votes

I agree that 2 wrong don't make a right, but in jail if you get called out for being a snitch and you don't defend yourself everyone is gonna think you are a snitch.

In Jail you're stuck with the people around you for a long time. In league it's just one game. Also does it really matter what some random people online think about you? If you mute them and just play nothing changes except you don't get punished.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Jail = temporary sentencing (if you leave you get punished)

League Match = temporarily teamed up/against people you don't know (if you leave you get punished)

Jail = one person calls you out, the others in the same room, will think the same if you don't defend yourself

League match = one person calls you out, the others who read it will think the same unless they have been paying attention or I prove myself against them.

Jail = food that can be punked by someone else so you gotta/can fight for it (physically or just taking it back and waiting for them to respond)

League match = food is the enemy team and cs which can be stolen by your team mates, you can tell them to stop or you can fight for your kills and cs or they take all your kills and cs and you don't get enough gold to catch up with the rest of the team

Honestly they are more alike than you think.

Aneirin3 votes

Jail = one person calls you out, the others in the same room, will think the same if you don't defend yourself League match = one person calls you out, the others who read it will think the same unless they have been paying attention or I prove myself against them.

And in Jail their opinions would actually matter. What does it matter what someone in league thinks of you?

Im0nAcid1 votes

What is hashinshin known for? and where do you think im getting at?

Your online profile can be followed/stalked/harassed because of what other people think of you online or in real life. Don't be so closedminded

But to answer your question in a short response, no it doesn't 'really' matter

Aneirin2 votes

Hanshinshin is known for being a famous streamer, whereas people you play with in game most likely won't even remember your name 5 minutes after the game has ended.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Ok so you are apart to the problem with leagues toxicity... since what others think about you influences what even more people will think about you

But goodjob kiddo

Aneirin3 votes

Ok so you are apart to the problem with leagues toxicity

Yes I am "apart" of the problem, because I'm not toxic. If someone is attacking me I mute them and focus on my own play. What strangers online think of how I play a video game has no impact on my life whatsoever.

Im0nAcid1 votes

I'm not dumb dude. Stop trying to act like you weren't being passive aggressive ( w h i c h i s t o x i c )

Kei1435 votes

Hmmm... why would it matter if they call you an inter and report you for inting?

The system doesn't work of number of reports within the same game. For one, 1 report = 9 reports (purposely programmed that way to prevent premade teams from abusing that poor solo guy), and for two, the system has the capability to verify false reports, so you don't really need to defend yourself if you didn't do anything wrong.

It's not just for inting, the same rules apply for verbal as well.

Xidphel2 votes

Well that sucks since your opinion doesn't mean it's a fact.

Wait... Wasn't that said already?

Im0nAcid1 votes

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Xidphel3 votes

Okay.

4x reports mean nothing if you don't flame or troll. The reports are tossed in the thrash.

If you defend yourself, it means you're preventing damage to your being. Retaliating doesn't stop trolls or flames so you're not defending yourself. Muting people stops them from verbally attacking you. Pre/post game chat are exempt unless they fixed that but reporting also helps.

If you report someone, THAT SOMEONE gets reviewed. If someone reports YOU, YOU get punished. Just because no one claims they reported you, doesn't mean no one did. Could've been your teammate that wasn't part of any shitfest but still had to deal with yours.

Riot doesn't condone toxicity. It punishes them. Retaliation counts because you're being toxic to a toxic player. That doesn't cancel their toxicity, that adds more to the game.

If you are a toxic player do NOT respond to this post

Practice what you preach.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Ok I don't think my comment registered.. Someone had commented something insanely toxic (someone thats not you)

I replied with a message stating that my comment wasn't meant for you.

Im0nAcid1 votes

shit my bad if you saw that, that comment was for another person

4 Step Cadence2 votes

You seem like the kind of person that would walk up to a burning building with a flamethrower, turn to the firefighters, and ask "This'll work, right?" before torching the building even more. You can't fight fire with fire. If people are giving you shit, be it with chat, pings, or emotes, mute them. Mute them and report them after the game. Don't fight back, because you'll just get in trouble too. And, it's a game. This isn't a life or death situation where defending yourself is justified. You had the choice to mute them and forget about it, and you decided that escalating the situation was the right choice to make, and it clearly wasn't.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Sooooo become a pushover is what you are saying. I'm not the type of person to let someone shove me ON PURPOSE and get away with it. Sorry but I'm not changing the way I interact with aggression. I mute them before they get insanely toxic usually because after a moment of silence and good team fights we actually start COMMUNICATING which is a KEY part of this TEAM game.. You NEVER know what VITAL INFORMATION may be WITHHELD if the player is MUTED IN ALL FORMS.

Caps are to put emphases on the words people seem to usually forget/nelgect

Im0nAcid1 votes

but based on the top portion of your comment I do think you are part of the problem. That's my safe assumption. No flame though

4 Step Cadence1 votes

If a person has nothing nice or helpful to say early on, do you really think they will later? I tend to leave people unmuted when the first thing they say in game is flame towards me. More of a social experiment than anything. The vast majority of the time, they never say anything helpful in chat and proceed to blame person X, Y, and/or Z for all their problems. I also read the chat logs of people banned for hat related offences often, and guess what, most of the time nothing helpful was ever said. I average 1-6 things in chat per game, because I say what I have to for the game, not what I think I have to.

Chat should be used to help your team by; Warning your team about an MIA enemy(ADC and/or Support roaming, ect). Encouraging them to try to win. Calling out objectives(let's get dragon/herald/baron, push lane, ect). And other things that actually contribute something to the well being of the team.

Chat should not be used to; Flame your teammates and/or the enemy, even "if they deserve it". Counterflame your teammates and/or the enemy. Their behavior is not a get out of jail free card for you. Saying generally random or unhelpful things. And anything else that doesn't help your team.

The same goes for pings. Emotes are pretty tilting and useless, so I tend to mute them right off the bat.

Im0nAcid1 votes

Second chances aren't taught where you're from huh? cuz thats what I believe in

Rysophage2 votes

Kaaaay first of all you never get banned for two weeks from one game...you're just toxic period. Second when multiple people report you in one game, it doesn't affect anything. Just the fact you GOT reported.

Also yeah, responding to toxic players with toxicity isn't a solution pretty sure rioters mention this all the time that's what the mute button is for. If you continue to be toxic after a chat restrictions and a two week ban you're gonna get perma'd.

fatherdarius1 votes

{quoted}

[snip]... team full of toxic apes

so racist...

[snip] You can't even _stand your ground _

OMG triggered

[snip] I retaliated

My HR department says you can be terminated for retaliation. You're not a nice person.

[snip]...That's just not fair.

The world isn't fair. I see hints of the 'just-world hypothesis' in your text...

[snip]...There doesn't need to be an Ai looking over reports,

Oh, but there does. The AI Morpheus explained it expertly: "Human beings feel pleasure when they are watched. The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms. God and the gods were apparitions of observation, judgement and punishment. Other sentiments towards them were secondary. The human organism always worships. First, it was the gods, then it was fame (the observation and judgement of others), next it will be self-aware systems you have built to realize truly omnipresent observation and judgment. The individual desires judgment. Without that desire, the cohesion of groups is impossible, and so is civilization."

And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.

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